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HomeMy WebLinkAboutWATERFIELD PUD - PRELIMINARY - 7-95B - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGG'C \TT" T T Tt n Tl T n T ^ 1 T Tl N .TA1r1^T /N . - 1� G1G�1Dut111UTVL I� r 01 1V11 IVIEET i 1-iG _ s for _ Q - Project: Meeting Location: 'nj t=u t K �nA� irAtz� � City of Fart Collins Date: 111191`'1(o Attendees: Please sign this sheet. The information will be used to update the project mailing list and confirm attendance at neighborhood ■ 7 meetings. Contact the Planning Department (221-b7-40) if you wish to Did You Receive jCorrecc receive minutes of this meeting, vritten NotificntionlL4ddress. of this meeting? Name Address Zip I Yes I No IYes No w1d4,zttzz:Ia e 7 FG �ds�� I I ►%� 3 do;/OA- kd hS- y �o�► �-�dr���� (�Z6 ;mil C.KIE , r1 �6S �!- I � �-_�I--..yl ! Ao g06z e— Iola Je O — a>i /61Vi ,eh�, ��y Mv u2 Ph Fb c-c. -139 l` - V '9 55. About the density around the wetland ... what do about if lawn fertilizer, etc. run off into it? Also, it shrinks in dry periods and swells in wet ones, it will probably run right to the back yards. A. That's an issue that Natural Resources needs to look at. We.will have to address water quality in our design. 56. What kind of water is seen in the detention pond? A. it'll be a dry -bottom pond. 57. How long does water stand in it? A. Probably 24 to 48 hours. It would release over a period of time. It's not intended to have water in it all the time. 58. Another part of the wetland is the wildlife. This is the end of the wildlife! A. There's not much nesting habitat currently at this wetland. It is proposed as part of this development though part of this development proposal to add nesting habitat. 59. People will not keep their pets in 60. Will we have an opportunity to see the changes before the final meeting? A. There are no more meetings planned before submittal, but you are.welcome to visit the Planning Department and look at any plans. 61. How do you aggregate the comments and concerns expressed on Richards Lake, Hearthfire etc. with this development? A. Many of the Planning and Zoning are the same. I provide minutes of this meeting with the Planning and Zoning Board packet. You may write letters to the Planning and Zoning Board in care of Mike Ludwig. Finally you can attend the Planning and Zoning Board hearing and provide citizen input. 62. These are the same concerns as before. We keep hearing, "I don't know." 63. 1 have sympathy with the developer. He has to meet city requirements. People move out there for the quiet life. There is a conflict in what the city wants versus what people want. 45. What about the transients? A. No answer. 46. What about kids walking to school from the south side of the tracks? A. The school will bus if there is a hazard. 47. Will there be any fencing around the senior place or will it come up to my 2 acres? A. There will probably be a fence. We don't know now. 48. How are you going to protect that little fox who runs from the wetland every night? A. No answer. 49. It makes me sad. The wetland area is so special in Colorado. You can't bring that back. Why this site? There has got to be a better place to build. A. It is not our intent to destroy it. We intend to enhance the wetland. We will work with the City's Natural Resources Department to protect the wetland. 50. You don't have any public access planned to the wetland? A. It is private property. There isn't public access now. 51. How many points do you get for donating land for the school and park? A. In order to gain any points, the park would have to be in City ownership. 52. What's the tax situation? What will we have to pay? A. I don't believe your taxes change as long as you're farming the land. If you stop farming, you'd go into another category. 53. The City Plan is encouraging schools to be central to neighborhoods-- they certainly don't mean on an arterial street. A. Access to the school is from a local street. It's far enough away from Vine. 54. What will the area between the wetland and the path be like? A. The path will act as a line on one side are the homes with sod. The area between the wetland and the path will be tall native grass. 34. If County Road 11 is an arterial why are there 6 cul de sacs proposed along it? A. I'm glad you said that. We are thinking of changing that. We just talked about it this morning. We intend to modify the design in that area to minimize the number of streets off of County Road 11. 35. The city hates cul de sacs now. Those are out. 36. It seems to me, this is another example of putting in a site and not thinking of what's around it. It's absolutely crazy to put this in with out roads to accommodate it. A. It makes even less sense to build all of the roads with tax payer money before any development occurs. 37. We try to cross Vine Drive and we can't do it. 38. If you widen Vine Drive to 2 lanes each way, you'll be in my living room. A. I'm not sure that this development will require Vine Drive to be four lanes. However, in the future, Vine Drive will be four lanes as it is classified as an arterial. 39. It's imperative that the City be aware of the County residents issues. We can't vote against anyone, because we don't live "in" the city. 40. This site equates exactly to the net density of Adriel Hills. 41. Will the townhomes and the senior cottages be their own phase? Or will they be with the rest? A. We don't know the phasing yet. 42. How will you prevent flooding of the basements? A. We will address this in our design. 43. Running a sump pump will boost the utilities. A. Some of these homes will not have basements. 44. When Jeff Donaldson's project was proposed, the concerns were about the rail road switch yard.... kids at the school will go there. A. They would have to cross Vine Drive to get there. I'm not too worried about that. 26. What are the price ranges? A. Prices are not reviewed by the Planning and Zoning Board. However, it is expected that the single-family units will be comparable to the City average which is approximately $150,000 to $160,000. 27. Do you take in to consideration the homes around this? A. Not much surrounds this property. 28. If the city didn't have a 6 unit/acre requirement, would the applicant propose something like this? A. I don't sell multi -family homes. I like single family lots. 29. Will there be a place for the neighborhood to meet? A. The townhomes will have a place and outsiders will be discouraged. The senior cottages will also have their own place to meet. The school might be available for some meetings. 30. Would you be opposed to seeing a slightly lower density? A. Personally, I would not be opposed. The City is after higher density. Since the condition on the zoning was just decided a few months ago, I don't see them changing it at this time. (City) There seems to be confusion over net density and gross density. The City's minimum density for PUD's is 3 dwelling units per acre. This project is about 3.5 to 4 dwelling units per acre. 31. The congestion out there gets worse as the developments go on. (We have no overpasses in the city.) A. Vine is planned to be a transit corridor. In order to support that we need higher density along Vine Drive. 32. Will the upper road and Conifer be connected? A. Not as part of this development. We aren't sure where Conifer is proposed to align. 33. There's no set line for Conifer, but it will go through the farm. A. I am unable to provide an answer to that. 19. How long will it take to widen Vine? A. I don't know. The traffic study will identify when certain improvements will be required. 20. Compatibility is an issue. This is the first significant development, so it will set the tone of future densities. A. The density which is proposed is consistent with the conditions the City Council placed on the Zoning. It is pretty much consistent with the direction of the new City Plan. 21. When was the land annexed? A. It was annexed in the 1980's and zoned T, Transition since until a permanent zoning was decided. In April 1996 the applicant submitted a rezoning petition. The City Council zoned approximately the northern half of the property RLP, Low Density Planned Residential with a PUD condition. The southern portion of the property was zoned I-L, Limited Industrial with a PUD condition. In addition, the Council placed a condition on the property that any residential development have an overall average density of 6 dwelling units per net developable acre. 6 dwelling units per net developable acre is approximately 4 dwelling units per gross acre in this instance. 22. Who is the current developer? A. He's sitting right next to you. His name is Jim McCory. 23. What provisions will be made for noise? For example a train whistle. A. That is something that will develop with this project. There will likely be berming along Vine Drive which will help mitigate train noise. 24. Who will own the senior cottages? A. A company in Minnesota. They will be single story, private entrance, private carport, own kitchen, community center, subsidized, attractive rental properties for senior citizens who are income qualified. 25. Will there be an on site manager? A. Yes. 10. Are there any plans for the traffic flow on Vine? A. Vine is an arterial on the city master plan. There also is a planned overpass in the area of Vine and Lemay. There is no plan for an overpass at Vine and Summitview at the present time. 11. On this map, is the right of way figured in? A. Yes, that would be the intent. 12. I'm confused about the number of units. Can you clarify the number of single family units? A. The numbers may change slightly. The number count on this is 488 total dwelling units. That is the minimum requirement for the City based upon the conditions which were placed on the zoning. 13. How many single family? A. There are 175. 14. What is the size of the single family lots? A. The larger lots on the upper east side are approximately 7,500 square feet. The rest are approximately 6,500 square feet. 15. Will there be sidewalk, curb, and gutter? A. Yes, in fact it will be a detached sidewalk. 16. Are there plans to put in a signal at Vine and Summitview? A. We don't know that yet. If traffic volumes, levels of service, etc. require, then yes. However, it is not likely at this time. 17. Won't Vine and Summitview be rather dangerous without an overpass? Children will get killed. It's very dangerous there unless there is something there for safety. A. I don't know if this development will trigger those improvements or not. 18. How long will it take to bring Timberline down to Summitview? A. I'm not sure of the schedule. I do know that the Engineering Department is in the process of designing the road for the Council's review. Initially it will be 2 lanes with an ultimate buildout of 6 lanes. 2. Is the park right along the railroad tracks? A. The railroad tracks are on the south side of Vine Drive. This development is on the I orth sided of Vine Drive. 3. The eastern most border is Summitview and the western border is County Road 11 (extended). Will County Road 11 be connected with this development? A. No. It may be extended along this property, but a connection will not be made until the property to the north develops. 4. In regards to the wetlands: what study was done, so that in the development process it's shown what you will do in protecting water going in and out? A. We, will not drain into the wetland (the City's Natural Resources Department and Stormwater Utility will not allow this). We believe that the wetland is fed by a combination of ground water and surface water. We want to do everything we can to protect it. 5. Will the wetland be accessible to people living outside the development? A. The wetland is currently private property and will continue to be private property, but there will be no signs or fences. The park will be public. 6. Are there any foot paths planned? A. Yes, there will be paths running along the back of the lots. There will be no actual boardwalks or anything. (City) The city would have to purchase the land for it to be public. 7. Who is going to be responsible for the maintenance for the wetlands? A. The homeowners association. 8. What about the design of the houses? How high will they be? Will the roofs obstruct the views? A. I don't have the drawings yet for that. 9. What about the senior citizens? You think they will move in where a bunch of kids will be? A. . Very possibly. PROJECT: DATE: APPLICANT., CONSULTANT. STAFF. NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING MINUTES Waterfield P.U.D. November 19, 1996 Jim McCory, Colorado Land Source Linda Ripley and Cathy Mathis, V-F Ripley Associates Michael Ludwig, City Planner APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION - 488 dwelling units, 140 gross acres, 3.5 dwelling units/acre. - access to site -- 1 or more onto Vine and 2 on County Roads 9E and 11. - topography of property basically runs from the NE to SW - variety of housing types and density. - propose to donate 6 acres for park site to the City. - school site to Poudre R-1. - patio homes, townhomes are at 12 dwelling units/acre. - senior cottages 9-10 dwelling units/acre. Tenants must be income qualified. - want to provide a diverse neighborhood. - trail along canal will continue. QUESTIONS / CONCERNS / COMMENTS 1. I walk along the canal. I see red marks, stakes etc. on the property. Is this a done deal? A. This is a long way from a done deal. What you are seeing on the property are surveyor markings. We are collecting data on the site. We feel that it is an appropriate land use but we have not even submitted a development application to the City yet.