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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPINECONE PUD FORT COLLINS HIGH SCHOOL SITE PLAN ADVISORY REVIEW - 60 91B - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING (2)NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING MINUTES PROJECT: Pine Cone Farm Amended Overall Development Plan (includes New High School site) DATE: January 29, 1992 LOCATION: Public Service Company APPLICANT: Timberline Partners (G.T. Land Colorado, Inc. and W.W. Reynolds Company) REPRESENTATIVES: Eldon Ward, Cityscape Urban Design Kirk Douglas, Consultant for PR-1 District PROJECT PLANNER: Ted Shepard QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS 1. The area designated as Parcel A is the commercial corner of Timberline and Horsetooth. How does this affect the approved neighborhood convenience shopping center across the street on Mr. Tiley's ground? Response: One does not preclude the other. The Fox Meadows Business Park is planned for multi -family, convenience and gasoline sales, support retail, and daycare. The northeast corner of Timberline and Horsetooth, however, is planned to be a neighborhood shopping center on 11 acres with about 100,000 square feet of retail. (By way of example, Toddy's is located in a 12 acre center.) This retail would be divided between about 70,000 square feet for a grocery store anchor, and 30,000 square feet for support retail. Each corner is planned to stand on its own. 2. What are the proposed collector streets into Pine Cone Farm? Response: The proposed collector off Timberline would be an extension of Vermont, and the collector off Horsetooth would be a new street located at the midpoint between Arctic Fox and Caribou. While not located within Pine Cone Farm, the likely collector off Drake into the section would be a road that divides the C.S.U. property from Spring Creek Farms. This road is located at the midpoint of the section. 3. Besides the collectors, what are the other proposed access points? 1 Response: The other access points would be classified as local streets, not collectors. It is proposed that the commercial corner have two access points, one off Timberline and one off Horsetooth. It is proposed that the school's southerly parking lot take access from an extension of Arctic Fox. The school's northerly parking lot would take access off Vermont. In front of the school along Timberline, there would be a separate access point for busses only into a turn -around loop. Also along Timberline, there would be an access point into boulevard that would lead to the building's "front door" or "focal point" which would serve as visitor parking. Finally, a new local street is planned between Custer and Sagebrush. It should be mentioned that all access points will be fully analyzed in a traffic impact study and must be approved,by the City of Fort Collins. It is likely that some access points will have restricted turn movements (right-in/right-out only). 4. What is a "focal point"? Response: At this early stage, the discussion has centered around a tower as a carry over tradition from the present school. 5. Will two collectors be sufficient for a high school and staff? Response: It is believed that two collectors will be able to handle the traffic and feed the •two adjacent arterials at signalized intersections. The exact timing of the installation of traffic signals, however, is not known at this stage. 6. Will Horsetooth Road be widened? Response: Yes, Horsetooth Road will be widened to full arterial standards in front of the school and commercial property. 7. Will Timberline Road be widened? Response: Yes, Timberline Road will also be widened to full arterial standards, as an interim improvement. Since Timberline is classified as a "major arterial" (Horsetooth is an "arterial") it will not be widened to major arterial standards until it is warranted by traffic volumes. This is not expected in the near future as the arterial standard is considered sufficient. 8. Would the Horsetooth access into the commercial corner line up with the access point on the Tiley .property (Fox Meadows Business Park)? Response: Yes, offsetting streets within close proximity would not be allowed. 2 9. Will the proposed neighborhood park east of Linton Elementary be delayed due to the proposed neighborhood park next to high school's athletic fields? Response: No. Parks and Rec is actively pursuing land acquisition from two landowners for the Linton/Sunstone neighborhood park. 10. I've heard a rumor that the high school is trying to acquire raw water to irrigate the athletic fields versus using treated City water. Is this true? Response: Yes. Negotiations are underway with local irrigation companies to secure water rights and distribution facilities so that treated.City water would not have to be purchased. 11. What are the City's right to review a new school facility versus an overall development plan? Response: Since the School District is a political subdivision of the state, and not a private developer, the City's right to review is found in state statutes. These statutes allow for the Planning and Zoning Board to conduct an advisory review on the "location, character, and extent thereof" of new school facilities. This is the same review process that has been used for the last several elementary schools and Webber Junior High. Under these statutes, any decision of the Planning and Zoning Board may be overturned by the Board of Education by no less than a two-thirds vote. Pine Cone Farm Amended Overall Development Plan, however, is considered a private application and will be reviewed by the criteria of the adopted Land Use Policy Plan under the full authority of the Planning and Zoning Board. 12. What happened at last Monday's (January 27, 1992) Board of Education meeting? Response: At their regular meeting, the School Board voted to _ enter into an option contract with Timberline Partners for--an-area of land not less than 62 acres and not more than 80 acres. 13. How was this particular site selected and was this the most expensive site? Response: A site selection committee investigated 18 sites east of College Avenue and south of Drake Road. The list was narrowed down to three for acquisition. This site was in the middle of the three in price. 14. Will the commercial corner be reviewed as a P.U.D.? Response: Yes. 3 15. Will PR-1 own the corner? Response: No, but PR-1 will, by covenant agreement with W.W. Reynolds, have the ability to enforce school rules on the commercial property. These covenants will run with the land in case W.W. Reynolds sells the property. 16. How flexible are the plans on the New High School? Are the plans locked -in? Response: This is a good question. In terms of site planning, the location of an existing sanitary sewer and storm drainage channel determines, to a large extent, the building envelope. Within this envelope, the architectural design and character of the building is very flexible. Please be aware that the schematic design of the building has not yet been approved by the School Board. 17. Will there be additional public meetings on the design of the new building? Response: Yes, there will be meetings the week of February 3rd to gather citizen input on the schematic design. These meetings will be advertised in the Coloradoan. 18. Will there be a lighted football field like French Field? Response: No, the football field will be for practice only. It will not be a district -wide facility. There will be no lights. 19. I've heard rumors that the District and Timberline Partners will be able to economize on capital construction costs by doing this joint school/commercial venture. Is this true? Response: Yes, preliminary estimates are that joint development could save between $250,000 and $500,000 in land development and capital construction. 20. Does the overall Development Plan contain any multi -family? - Response: Yes, Parcel D. north of Vermont, is about 15 acres and is designated as a multi -family parcel. An estimate is that this parcel could contain about 200 dwelling units. 21. Which residential areas will develop first and what is the estimated time frame for development? Response: The residential portion will develop from south to north to take advantage of the existing sewer line in Horsetooth Road. These residential areas will wrap around the school athletic facilities and the potential City neighborhood park. An estimated time frame is that it could take ten years to reach build -out. 4 22. Who are the other owners in the section? Response: Harold Webster owns the large parcel in the southeast corner of the section. Spring Creek Farms owns the large parcel in, the northwest corner. C.S.U. owns the everything between Webster and Spring Creek Farms that is not owned by Timberline Partners. The U.S. Department of Agriculture owns the five acre parcel along Timberline Road across from Sagebrush Drive. 23. What will be the impact on the property values of the homes located on the cul-de-sacs that open up to Horsetooth Road in Fox Meadows? Response: This is difficult to predict given the number of variables that determine a property's value. Recent experience is that schools act as magnets to certain areas and neighborhoods but cause and effect data on the relationship between new schools and property values is not available. 24. What is the likely future land use on the five acre U.S.D.A. parcel? Response: It is likely that with major arterial frontage that it will not be residential. Depending on market conditions, this parcel could develop as multi -family or office. 25. What kind of housing will be built? Will there be modulars? Response: It is premature to anticipate what kind of housing will be built within Pine Cone Farm. It is also unknown if modulars will be built. It is not uncommon to lack these kinds of specifics at the Overall Development Plan stage. 26. It is widely accepted that southeast and that this residential construction. accommodate a,grocery store the long term? Fort Collins is growing to the area will continue to attract Will 11 acres be large enough to and support retail/services over Response: Recent history has shown that larger centers tend to carry vacancies. The trend now is toward smaller centers. Keep in mind that Fox Meadows Business Park will provide retail and services, and that Sunstone Village has commercial area at the corner of Timberline and Caribou. Also, there is retail and commercial area that has been approved, at the Overall Development Plan level, at the corner of Timberline and Harmony Road. Therefore, it appears the southeast area will be well served. E 27. When will the New High School open? Response: With a 21 month construction schedule, the opening is planned for the Fall of 1995. 28. Will there be boundary changes or open enrollment throughout the District? Response: Boundary questions and enrollment policies are best directed towards the other District officials. Mr. Carol Agee is the District's school boundary specialist and he can be reached by calling the Poudre R-1 School District. 0 6