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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPINECONE PUD FORT COLLINS HIGH SCHOOL SITE PLAN ADVISORY REVIEW - 60 91B - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESPLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 27, 1992 Council Liaison: Gerry Horak Staff Liaison: Tom Peterson The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board began at 6:35 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall West, 300 LaPorte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado. Board members present included Chairman Bernie Strom, Vice -Chairman Lloyd Walker, Joe Carroll, Jim Klataske, Laurie O'Dell, Jan Cottier, and Rene Clements -Cooney. Staff members present included Planning Director Tom Peterson, Deputy City Attorney Paul Eckman, Sherry Albertson -Clark, Kirsten Whetstone, Steve Olt, Ted Shepard, Kerrie Ashbeck, Mike Herzig, Rick Ensdorff, and Patti Schneeberger. Member Cottier moved to approve Consent Agenda Items 1-3, 69 8-109 13-159 17 and 18. Member Clements -Cooney seconded the motion. The motion for approval passed 7-0. along the ditch. Member Walker seconded the motion. PINECONE PUD FORT COLLINS HIGH SCHOOL, Advisory Review, Case €{60-91 B Chairman Strom asked that a brief summary be presented to the Board in regard to what type of authority they might have on this issue. Mr. Eckman stated the authority of the Board was limited to state statutes regarding this type of issue. The reason this project was not listed in the Overall Development Plan was because the School District wanted to make clear that there was not any implication this project would come through as a Planned Unit Development or subject to the City's zoning ordinances. The Planning and Zoning Board's authority comes from Colorado's revised statutes 22-32-124, which requires the Board of Education to submit a site development plan for review and comment to the Planning and Zoning Board prior to construction of any structure or building. The Planning and Zoning Board may request a public hearing before the Board of Education relating to the proposed site development plan, but nothing in the statute shall be construed to limit the authority of the Board of Education to finally determine the location of public schools within the district and erect any necessary buildings and structures. Basically, the statute authorizes you to review the site development plan and make comments on it. Ted Shepard stated that this project was a site plan advisory review for the new Fort Collins High School which is to be constructed on 68 acres adjacent to the Pinecone Overall Development Plan. The site is located on the east side of Timberline Road between Vermont and Horsetooth Road. P&Z Meeting Minutes April 27, 1992 Page 10 library in the area and having outside walls it would be easy to add on to and accommodate that need in the future. There are two facets in energy conservation that relate to economics in terms of what you save from energy and what you pay to put in(capital costs). The spine area is a fully sky lighted area that creates potential to reclaim heat in the winter time; and to dispel heat in the spring/summer through the ventilation system and pull natural ventilation through the school. In terms of security they are working with the Police Department at this point in time. Mr. Sutter presented that lighting the school up at night like day time they are looking at providing a lower wattage, or ambient lighting to present a nice glow to the building and consume less energy. Motion detector lights are being considered in order to conserve energy. Motion detector lights also serve the purpose of being a good security device. The light turns on when there is motion in the area which alerts a patrol car or passerby that there is unwanted motion in the area. At that time the police department should be notified. There are some problems though that come with motion detector lights, such as, they may be set off by high winds, blowing snow, or bunny rabbits. The District is also looking at potential partnerships with industry, in terms of the school becoming a Beta site. This allows for some testing of energy types of things. Those kinds of concepts are more on the wish list though, but hopefully in the future would become a reality. He stated that during school hours, indirect lighting would be used. There will probably be us of indirect lighting in the school which basically requires a little more wattage in terms of per fixture thing to get the reflection off of the ceiling, but on the other hand it requires less lamps so you end up with an overall benefit. All of those items are being considered in the overall package for the school. He felt that ensuing those areas in the future there would be economy cycles placed on mechanical units, some sort of night setback will be provided as a minimum, although we would like to consider computer controlled systems that set temperature levels within the building. He pointed out that the building itself would have a lot of mass built into it, so we are going to gain a lot of benefit just from the flexibility requirements from this building with all the concrete floors, walls and steel structure to support those kinds of things. There is no way to analyze the direct benefit due to it being built with the building. Day lighting was a very, very important consideration to the District as a whole as much for the positive psychological effects on the teaching environment as now it gives the potential to look at day lighting techniques. The types of things we are looking at are photocell control that automatically dims systems down based on the light coming in from the outside to basically teacher control. The District has had varying degrees and Districts all over the country have P&Z Meeting Minutes April 27, 1992 Page 11 had varying degrees of success with those systems depending upon how well they are implemented and how well you can educate the staff in terms of how they are used. Another thing that can be looked at which is again a computer oriented thing and again plays into the cost factor is the fact that there are lighting systems out now that when your system is in high energy mode ie. alot of heating; however in this case the building will not be initially cooled when it is open but will provide for and economic addition of that in the future as the community demands a whole year round school; basically when all those compressors kick in to pull up the air conditioning the lighting in the whole building would all at once drop by 10 footcandles. The psychological studies and the impact studies on that show that basically there is no visual effect if all the lights were to be dimmed at once, but if you have a light go out here and there then everybody all of a sudden senses that loss of light. We are honestly looking at those types of modern thinking, looking types of things and the things that we want to be able to consider. As we go through the process we will be taking a shopping list to the School District themselves and giving them some choices in terms of the economics of the project on how some of these systems would be implemented. That should give a general idea and quick over view. Member Carroll stated that what he is hearing throughout the community and here tonight is that the transportation issues are becoming perhaps the one negative about the plan. He has hear no negatives but many positives concerning the building and felt some of the concerns regarding the commercial areas have died away and that the concerns remain about the transportation factors. The all development criteria requires the Board to look at adverse traffic impact, air quality, and noise. Several things vary between the current school and the new school such as, population of the new school when it opens would be in the area of 1500 hundred students which is bigger than the current high school. One of the things he thinks is important is the location of the school. He personally felt it is unfortunate that we don't have 40 acres at the present Fort Collins High so we could rebuild there but it is a fact of life we don't. This school being located two miles from College Avenue and on Horsetooth puts the many destinations for students much further away than the old Fort Collins High did. Basically there will not be very much development to the east of this site do to the Poudre River, so this high school will be toward the easterly and northerly side of the area it serves, somewhat unlike the old Fort Collins High. The access to the school will be limited to Timberline and Horsetooth where at the old school and Rocky there are various ways to approach it. With that in mind he is somewhat disappointed that the District has not addressed nor has suggestions been made about controlling the transportation other than reeducating the students. He doesn't see anything wrong with that, but the District could go quite a bit further rather than an education. His understanding is that the present Fort Collins High has outgrown itself so the capacity of keeping all the students in the high school at one time no longer exist. This particular high school has lots of amenities P&Z Meeting Minutes April 27, 1992 Page 12 that the present Fort Collins High does not have, including the commercial center, the park and the facility itself which is much more modern and attuned to students needs. The first issue he felt the District should address is if there any particular reasons why students should have to leave the campus in a car during the day except of course to work, doctor appointments, etc. The students who would be leaving during lunch would be traveling quite a bit further to Taco Bell, Burger King, and McDonald's. This situation can be controlled by closing the parking lots. He felt that would eliminate all of the day trips directly except for those students who have to go to work or the doctor etc. With a permit situation he felt that method would be fairly easy to accomplish. If that can't be done for what ever reason then he suggested that the parking be used as some type of a motivation to influence people to use alternate transportation. One suggestion he heard in the community is simply that sophomores can't drive and that the parking lots available for juniors and seniors. He thought that if individuals realize that they only are driving to the school in the morning and driving home in the afternoon, he felt that they might be somewhat encouraged to use alternate forms of transportation because they don't need to leave at 10:30 am and at 1:00 or 2:00 pm. Getting back to the parking, again one could limit parking close in to people who do not leave during the day, people who don't leave the school until 2:30 or 3:00 would have close in parking and those folks who felt it was necessary to come and go during the day would be required to park further out. He also agrees with the phase in of the parking and thinks that the School District should look at these things which do somewhat more than encourage people to use alternate forms of transportation and discourage the day trips in and out. Again he thinks that the high school is excellent and appreciated Mr. Knobloch, Mr. Dixon and other Poudre R-1 officials coming down tonight when they are having their own meeting. Member O'Dell felt that the Board has given the School District a lot to think about transportation and asked if the tower is made of some material that is unscaleable? Mr. Sutter stated that is certainly a requirement in the construction of the tower so that the kids could not get up there. Mr. Sutter pointed out that all the major elements of the building are oriented in an east/west access which is the most efficient for a commercial building that you can have because it gives you the best control of sunlight. Another example is that the gymnasium has been opened up substantially to north light which is the easiest to control. The elevations on the other side of the gymnasium are aloud little slit windows on that side that actually keeps direct sunlight from hitting the floor of the gym and also keep direct sunlight from bringing that energy into that building and making it too hot. P&Z Meeting Minutes April 27, 1992 Page 13 Chairman Strom stated that in looking at the building and reading about some of the discussions that are going on in the community and attending some of the earlier meetings on the design that there are vocal interest in repeating the sense of old Fort Collins High School. One of his thoughts in looking at the layout is that with so many different things going on in so many different areas that it may be difficult to get a sense of the place of entry and the sense of place for the building and as you approach the building where does it invite you in? He knows that the tower is an attempt to do part of that and hope that it is carried into the entryway to. So that as people drive up to the building that there is a sense of knowing without having to read a road map where it is they are going to and how to get into the place. He felt tremendously encouraged by the progress he has seen in the cooperation between the City and the School Board in the six years he has sat on the Board. He felt that when he first was appointed to the Planning and Zoning Board every time a school came in it was a sense of "Oh no here we go again" and does not have that sense at all now. He felt that there is a much stronger sense of cooperation between the School Board, City Council and respective staffs realizing that we basically are all dealing from the same pool of tax dollars and for us to fight about what goes on from which particular point it is not that important as long as the job gets done in an efficient way. Secondly, the interaction between the school site and the commercial site would work very effectively with the mixed uses for that area. The overall approach to this design for Fort Collins High School is tremendous and has a great deal of potential for being just as much of a landmark for Fort Collins as the old high school has been. Mr. Peterson stated that essentially what the Board is doing is making an advisory review to the Board of Education and what has been done historically is a resolution has been made advising the School District of your findings in terms of the particular application before you. In terms of the location and character of the facility that is being proposed in front of you and whether or not it conforms to the elements of the Fort Collins Comprehensive Plan. Member Carroll noted CRS 31-23-209 which indicates that the Planning and Zoning Board make a finding as to the location and character in extent of the public buildings and structures relative to the adopted master plan of the City and it should help that the structures conform to the adopted plan of the City. Member Carroll moved to adopt a resolution stating the facts which were presented to the Planning and Zoning Board on the location, character and extent of Fort Collins High do agree with the Master Plan of the City and they do conform to the adopted plan of the Community; and that the School Board consider the comments for which were presented at this meeting. Member O'Dell seconded the motion. The motion to adopt carried 6-0. P&Z Meeting Minutes April 27, 1992 Page 2 The new facility will be approximately 285,000 square feet and will serve, at maximum, approximately 1,800 students. The campus includes a main school building, a theater complex, gymnasium, cafeteria, athletic fields, parking lot, bus loop, a transfort bus stop (located adjacent in the Overall Development Plan), and there is an architectural tower feature. The facility is being designed in conjunction with the Pinecone Overall Development Plan with special consideration for integration with a city neighborhood park and a private commercial center. The property has two zones on it BP (Planned Business) and RP (Planned Residential). The City Planning Department has been working closely both with the School District and Timberline Partners as with the Overall Development Plan. Although the this project was not included in the Overall Development Plan. Mr. Eckman stated that statute 31-23-209 that provides that no public building or structure shall be constructed or authorized in the City until the location, character, and extent there of has been submitted for approval by the Planning and Zoning Board. In that context the Board is more focused on location, character, and extent of the public building. Mr. Peterson stated that a bit high school review was a bit unusual, but it is indicative of the partnership that both the School District and the City have entered into over the past couple of years. Mr. Knobloch, Vice President of the School District, would like to address the Board before they get into there formal presentation of the Fort Collins High School. Mr. Darrell Knobloch, Vice President of the School Board, wanted to come to the meeting for two reasons and one is to emphasize the degree for which the District and the City have been working together on this project as well as others and that the improvement in that working relationship. He stated that for the last 2 years a liaison committee has been set up and that a few on both sides have taken it as a strong initiative to bring the two groups together to work jointly in deciding how to work for the tax payers rather than separately. He stated the School District had regular discussions both at the Council and Board level, as well as the level of the Staffs of the two organization in planning the new High School and felt a lot of innovative ideas had from those discussions. Not only has the School District worked through the discussions, but the District has already put in place a master plan that has been available for review and discussion, not just of this school but other schools and felt that the City was looking for that for a long time. He stated that the School District was also working towards a joint government agreement that would really guide the kind of relationships and put a little more form and format between the District and the City. Mr. Knobloch pointed out that the District has been very much involved in working with the City to make sure that the plans are jointly agreed upon and felt that led the City staff to give a recommendation. He stated that the District will continue to plan to keep involved after this vote in working with the City to make sure that the plans go jointly and go well. P&Z Meeting Minutes April 27, 1992 Page 3 Mr. Knobloch stated that the second reason is to emphasize, by his presence, the importance to the Board of Education of this process in your vote. He felt they have been lacking this in the past in not doing that and basically letting this process occur without their involvement and us making decisions independent of that later on if they want to reverse the decision. He felt it was important that they are involved and felt his presence indicates that this process is being taken seriously. He will be personally taking back comments like the one Mr. Carroll made earlier about potentially looking at the northern site and take those back to the Board of Education for discussion. However, it is a little difficult for them to be here because this is the night the Board of Education meeting, so he is missing that Board to appear here. But it is important to him to understand the role that the Planning and Zoning Board plays and use your review as an important step in their process. Mr. Bob Sutter, Architectural Horizons, stated that the high school sits on approximately 68 acres of property, when netted out after dedications of right-of-ways and that sort of thing, the site will end up with about 64 of net property usable for the school. It is broken down into 3 or 4 major segments, that being naturally the school building. To answer the question about going outside to get to any part of the school, the answer is no it is one school building regardless of the fact it looks like several different segments. He will get into that in terms of the community concepts behind the school. The parking lot has been divided into a couple of major areas and one of the larger lots was broken up substantially with landscaping or tried to do that for a couple of reason. One to break down significantly large paved areas into smaller areas and reduce the impact on the project as well as to address students from this part of the community and students from other parts of the community. Basically, the site was set up and organized around a central circulation spine, which pulls the 3 major elements of a PUD process together. He introduced the basic access points as being a major parking lot on the north, that purposely had brought the major traffic to a lighted/controlled intersection to discourage the students or provide a safer access for students and staff as Timberline develops over the next 20 to 30 year. A main visitor/bus access point has been developed with the idea that busses would make a circular route. Also looking at in the future, after the year 2010, left turning movements are going to become a questionable capability at the schools access point. Consequently, they have provided a future access point that would come through the parking lot and provide that left turn movement at a lighted intersection. This is to avoid jeopardizing the safety of people coming to the site. In terms of site circulation, he felt they have made significant effort to work with the City and both the developer to provide some significant circulation paths across the schools property to encourage access to the site by the pedestrian as well as the bicycle. Naturally, there will be the normal arterial connection points that will tie into the bike/pedestrian systems that develop along the arterials. The arterial streets will be designed for the long term future of a six lane road, although four lanes will be built at the same time the high school is constructed. P&Z Meeting Minutes April 27, 1992 Page 4 In addition there have been major bicycle paths that cross the property, one of which provides major access to the commercial area and/or the school site itself. They have provided major bicycle parking areas both in the plaza area on the southeast side of the school and another major parking area on the northeast side of the school. Mr. Sutter stated that depending on the school population projection in 1995, the 1105 stalls of parking may not be needed. On the other hand, for special event parking the school does have the capacity to provide or to need that kind of on -site parking to provide for any events that may occur at the school. The proposal being viewed is to do something similar to what the City has done at Rolland Moore Park. That would be to provide recreation area in some of the parking lots at this point in time that could be dedicated to extra tennis courts or basketball goal stops. The play fields consist of a soccer field, a regulation high school baseball diamond, a football practice field with a track around it, eight tennis courts, softball/baseball field and that there would also be one field built in the park that would meet both little league and regulation softball standards. All of the park and play fields will be accessible to the City when not in use by the school. As one could see there is not much difference of the property line between the school and the city park. Member Carroll asked if the estimated 1800 student population was correct? Mr. Sutter stated that was a correct figure. Member Carroll pointed out that the school would not be phased in according to school population. Mr. Sutter replied that the school would be built at that capacity from day 1. Member Carroll asked if the initial population was around 1100? Mr. Sutter stated that the projected student population for 1995 would be 1500. Member Carroll then clarified that the school would have some initial empty space. Mr. Sutter agreed. Member O'Dell asked how many bicycle parking spaces are you anticipating going in there? P&Z Meeting Minutes April 27, 1992 Page 5 Mr. Sutter stated that the space which was allocated for the bicycles was around 150-200 stalls. However, there would be the ability to build more stalls as the need is developed. He also stated that there is not data to tell them what to plan for and the best way to answer the question is to say that we want to encourage bike traffic. Member Walker felt that alternative modes of transportation was the main concern and should be encouraged. He wanted to know if any program was being developed between the School District and Transfort? Mr. Sutter felt that at this point in time there are on going discussions between the committee that has been set up especially around Fort Collins High School but has been broadened to encompass the entire district to address driving and parking at all of the high schools and look at alternative means of transportation. Also what can be done to encourage children and any other participant at the site to use those alternative systems. At this point in time there has been a public transportation point located right on the visitor circulation route. When the commercial develops it may be more appropriate for that space to be located more in tune with the commercial site. Mr. Keith Dixon stated that transportation was a major concern and issue with the School District as well as with the City, and that alternative modes of transportation have been seriously considered. The District recognizes the values of the students and society to encourage those types of alternatives to take place. The committees which are in place now have noticed that several students are concerned about transportation, environment, and recycling. As this issue is approached by the District it is seen as a long-term issue and that there are no real immediate solutions and know that everyone is going to have to continue to work together. The district has looked into constructing a similar system like the system at CSU. The students have expressed views on the old yellow school bus as a single dimensional form of transportation and do not hold the same views on Transfort system because the school bus serves one thing and that is to transport them to and from school whereas Transfort is viewed as a way to transport them to other kinds of things besides school. For example students could be transported to work, shopping, doctor appointments etc. whereas the school bus can not provide that. Mr. Dixon stated that they are continually working with the Pinecone PUD and have on site different encouraging transportation systems such as the park process and the trails within the environment. He did not suggest that it is going to be an easy process but that they are committed to working with the students and the staff in terms of some shifts in values. There is alot of working being done in terms of earth week and what that means; and trying to attempt to educating the students in regards for the need of other forms of transportation. P&Z Meeting Minutes April 27, 1992 Page 6 Mr. Knobloch stated that transportation is a top issue with the District and felt that as a good relationship is formed between the two organizations that joint control or joint participation of transportation in how Transfort specifically can be integrated in how we get our students to and from school. PUBLIC INPUT Gina Janette, Citizen Planners/City Air Quality Task Force, stated that one noticeable point when near a high school is the amount of students in one car because not all of them own their own cars. Therefore, some of us would call that carpooling, however students would not conceive that's what they are doing, but they are and we need to enforce that. She stated that positive rewards and one suggestion is that in designing the parking, you have close in reserved parking for carpools. Students are very good enforcers also and if they see a car pulling in with two people and the rule is three there is going to be a problem. That peer pressure would be very useful. The close in parking should also be for faculty and staff to carpool as well. Put the parking for students driving by themselves at the most distant part of the parking lot. You could do this with a permit system if you choose. The other concept is a carpool drop off area. You have a bus loop down here and has the District anticipated parents dropping off students or carpool drop offs in the same bus circulation area? This area would also benefit for handicapped people. Additionally, the concept of having a one way exit from that loop to take traffic over to the traffic light would be very desirable and that could be a oneway out only. The City has a commuter pool/carpool matching service and CSU is working on having computers on site to do instant matching; so there is no reason that could not occur at the school. Parking historically has been a way that City's and other places get people out of their cars and into alternative modes. The highest amount of walking and alternative mode use are places where parking is at a premium or very expansive. The Air Quality Task Force is encouraging the School District to have some sort of permit system for parking in order to try to limit the amount of cars generating into the parking lots. One way to do that is to provide more carpool parking permits than single occupant permits which is an operational thing that the school would need to consider. She strongly encouraged the parking lot construction be phased in as needed as to building it all up front. Down the road there will be an economic incentive to not build that next phase and to think of other ways of getting people there and it is our hope in the air quality community that this is the future, which is less driving. The City's transportation plan shows population growth going about 54 percent over the next 20 years and travel growth being 75 percent. P&Z Meeting Minutes April 27, 1992 Page 7 One other problem with parking is that students have the tendency to park on residential streets which generates lots of complaints. Other locations have developed a permit system where that the people who live there get a permit on there cars in order to permit them to park for 8 hours in front of their house, whereas students or others would only be able to park there for an hour without being ticketed. It is a way to segregate who parks where. She felt that system would also work well around CSU. Ms. Janette felt that the closed/covered walkway would present a problem for people riding their bikes into that area if the building was closed it would create quite a detour to reach the other side. She appreciated that the school is working with the City in regard to transportation issues and hopes that participation with each other will continue well after the school opens. Mr. Scott Mason, Citizen Planners, felt that Poudre R-1 was trying to be futuristic and forward looking in the implementation of some technologies and in land use issues regarding the new Fort Collins High School. Citizen Planners thinks that Poudre R-1 should also be forward looking when addressing transportation issues. One of the major environmental issue facing Fort Collins is air quality. Over 80 percent of the carbon monoxide in the Fort Collins air comes from automobiles. Yet, Poudre R-1 is counting on the expansion of Timberline and Horsetooth Roads, and a site design that includes over 1100 parking spaces to address the Fort Collins High School transportation needs. Citizen Planners recommends a more futuristic and forward looking design. He felt that we are not moving towards solutions to our air quality problems when the tax payers build our young people more parking spaces. Poudre R-l's core business is education and the question we have to ask are what lessons are we teaching our young people when we spend tax dollars on widening roads around their high school and then to accommodate them with parking spaces. Rocky Mountain High School parking facility should not be used as our baseline. This high school was built in the 70's and he felt a new design was needed for the year 2000 and beyond. The City of Fort Collins has a good plan for bicycle and pedestrian access to the new high school; however, more emphasis needs to be placed on Poudre R-1 buses and Transfort. He stated that he understands funding for these alternate modes are scarce and currently under attack. He felt that spending money on large parking lot is the cheap and easy solution. The parking lot solution to transportation, shifts the transportation burden and cost to the students and parents, but lacks the commitment to the Fort Collins environment. P&Z Meeting Minutes April 27, 1992 Page 8 Citizen Planners suggests a two part solution to the transportation problem at the new Fort Collins High School as well as Rocky Mountain and Poudre. First, provide alternative modes of transportation including safe bike and pedestrian access, Poudre R-1 bus service and/or Transfort bus service, and carpooling/ride sharing programs. Second, restrict single occupant vehicle parking spaces to students holding jobs or those students with special needs. Using a permit system similar to that perhaps that is being used at CSU and the downtown area. Lets remind ourselves of the current Land Use Policies Plan that says the City shall promote alternative modes of transportation. The City's Land Use Policies Plan shall be directed toward minimizing the use of private automobiles, and toward alleviating and mitigating the air quality impacts of concentrated use of automobiles. The Planning and Zoning Board understands these Land Use Policies as well as the new Area Wide Transportation Plan that calls for the reduction of single occupant vehicle miles and promote alternative modes of transportation. We encourage the School District to review these documents that reflect community wide goals and policies. Citizen Planners will be working with a task force from the Fort Collins Chamber of Commerce to review these transportation and air quality issues regarding the Fort Collins High School and are looking forward to working with Keith Dixon and his staff during the site design and development process. To conclude he asks the Planning and Zoning Board to recommend and advise the Poudre R-1 Board to reduce the size and the number of parking lots on the existing site plan. Chairman Strom closed the public input portion of the meeting at this time. Member Clements -Cooney suggested that parking spaces should be allocated through a permit system, seniority, academic achievement, disability, or priority for those who carpool. She felt that parking should also be phased in and should not be developed all at once. In the 1990's we are trying to reduce single occupant vehicle trips and building over 1100 parking spaces doesn't send that message. She felt that education information should be provided and would like the School Board to take a look at the comments which were prepared by the Air Quality Task Force, because they deal with parking, providing information, carpooling, Transfort and school buses, bicycles and pedestrians. Member Cottier felt that parking was the chief way of being responsive to some environmental concerns. She agreed with Citizen Planners and the Air Quality Task Force in that phasing parking into the site is essential and the number of spaces which are built would be the number of spaces that are filled from day 1. If the School Board is truly interested and committed to developing and stimulating alternative transportation modes, she felt that they should start -off with smaller number of parking spaces and create alternative uses for the additional space in the event that all of the spaces will not be needed. She would also hope that no student parking would be allowed on the neighborhood residential streets and would be enforced through the P&Z Meeting Minutes April 27, 1992 Page 9 District governments agreement. Because if students are aloud to park on the residential streets they will fill them up and would become just an extension of the school parking lots. Other than that, she thinks that it is a very exciting school concept and is very interested in the philosophical tie to the commercial area and what it brings to the school and what it offers the community. Member Walker felt that traffic and parking are the major concerns in regard to the new high school site. He stated that the open campus concept with several facilities in the school plan, the layout with the City park, the ball fields, and the commercial development would satisfy any retail needs by the students. However, he suggests that unnecessary trips off of the campus be discouraged somehow. For example, just because it is lunch time, doesn't mean the students/faculty have to leave campus. He hopes that through the integrated concept between the school and park encourages the students to realize that all of their activities could take place on site and minimize the need for leaving campus. Chairman Strom asked Mr. Sutter how much of this is conceptual and how close is this project to getting an actual building footprint? What are some energy conservation issues and environmental concerns from that prospective? Mr. Sutter stated that the footprint of the building should change very little between now and when the building is built. They have not determined what exact materials on the outside of the building are going to be and what the finishes on the building were going to be. The outside of the building has been fairly well fixed. Chairman Strom then stated that basically the outside is pretty firm. He pointed out that there are 750 seats in the theater not only to accommodate the school but to accommodate the community as well. Theater space as you know from a community that is struggling with the Lincoln Center and it is very expensive to build and consequently 750 was decided on just as much of the fact that there has been a cry from within the community for the last two or three years for a theater of approximately that size. So the District is trying very hard to meet that need and the needs and educational requirement for the school. In addition there is a black box theater behind for even smaller groups which will serve more as a daily classroom. Mr. Sutter went onto point out the different areas of the building on the plan. This structure has been designed to serve two events at one time at the school and not limited to some degree as Rocky Mountain High School is where ever thing comes off of one central access area. Also in looking at the media center a very important requirement for it was to be located on the outside of the building in hopes that it might meet with the City's future need for a branch