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Home My WebLink AboutSUPERTOTS AT OAKRIDGE WEST, 2ND FILING - PRELIMINARY & FINAL - 23-87D - - MINUTES/NOTESi PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MINUTES May 7, 1990 The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at 6:33 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall West, 300 LaPorte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado. Board members present included: Chairman Sanford Kcrn, Jim Kiataskc, Bernie Strom, Jan Shepard, Laurie O'Dell, Rex Burns, Lloyd Walker, and Alternate Joe Carroll. Staff members present included Tom Peterson, Ted Shepard, Paul Eckman, Sherry Albertson -Clark, Mike Herzig, Steve Olt, Kerrie Ashbeck and Georgiana Taylor. Board Members present at the May 4, 1990 workscssion included: Chairman Sanford Kern, Jim Klataskc, Bernie Strom, Laurie O'Dell, Rex Burns, Alternate Joe Carroll, Lloyd Walker and Jan Shepard. AGENDA REVIEW Planning Director Tom Peterson reviewed the Consent and Discussion Agenda. The Consent Agenda included: Item 1 - Minutes of the March 26, 1990 meeting; Item 2 - Oakridge Master Plan Amendment, #13-82AV; Item 3 - Convenience Center at Oakridge PUD - Preliminary, #13-82AW; Item 4 - Oakridge West Master Plan Amendment, #23-87C; Item 5 - Supertots at Oakridge West, 2nd Filing - Preliminary, #23-871); Item 6 - Office Park at Oakridge 131h - Preliminary, #13-82AX; Item 7 - Four Seasons 6th Filing PUD - Preliminary and Final, #112-79L; Item 8 - Checker Auto at the Market Place PUD - Preliminary and Final, #21-891); Item 10 - Raintree Village Shopping Center - • Administrative Change, 0146-791; Item 11 - South Shields Veterinary Clinic PUD - Final, #44-89B; Item 12 - Springbrook PUD - Preliminary and Final, #7-90,A; Item 14 - Giant Video at Cimarron Plaza Administrative Change, #78-81 F. Member Carroll pulled Item #g, Checker Auto at the Market Place PUD from the consent agenda. Member Strom pulled Item #3, Convenience Center at Oakridgc PUD and Item #5, Supertots at Oakridge West, 2nd Filing from the consent agenda. Jeff King, 4430 Moss Creek Drive pulled Item #7, Four Seasons 6th Filing from the consent agenda. Member Shepard moi-ed to approve consent agenda items 1, 2, 4, and 6. Member Strom seconded the motion. Motion was approved 7-0. CONVENIENCE CENTER AT OAKRIDGE PUD - PRFLIMINARY, #13-82AW Mark Smith, 5007 Saffron Court stated his concern was the gradual transition of McMurray and Keenland into major streets as people use the convenience center and want to cut over to Lemay Avenue. He stated he would like to avoid seeing a light on Harmony Road and that Kccnland was a nice wide street and on McMurray, that it was a natural way for people to stop at the convenience store, hang a left and keep going through the residential area to get to Lemay. Mr. Shepard stated that it was the Harmony Road Corridor Plan that was under debate right now in the Planning Department and it was in front of the citizens right now for review. He encouraged him to come to the Planning Department or tail Linda Riplcy or himself and they could get him involved in the process now that was a review procedure that has not yet gone for any formal review. Member Strom stated that in looking at the plan and the architectural design, he thought he was very pleased with it. It was a little unusual, but unusually interesting and generally very nice. He had one concern with it which was something he had evolved to in convenience centers and gas stations. The plan showed a bronze metal fascia on the canopy which did not seem to him appropriate in relation to the rest of the materials used in the center. He stated that the canopies over the gas station areas arc generally the least attractive and sometimes the most obtrusive features of some of these smaller centers. He stated he would like to see them blended as much as possible with the architecture of the center. Membcr Strom stated he would like to add a condition we approve this with the canopy materials to match the rest of the shopping center. Mr. Shepard stated staff had no concern with the condition. Mr. Frank Vaught, representative of Everitt Companies, stated they did not have a problem with the condition. At this point the specific tenant for the convenience store has not been identified and they would hold off on making any final color considerations on the canopy fascia until final plans. • Member Strom moved for approval of the convenience center with 2 conditions shown in the staff report plus the 3rd condition that the canopy materials match the color and materials of the rest of the center. Member Burns seconded the motion. Member Walker stated he could appreciate Mr. Smiths concerns with the traffic situation and that it had to be recognized, as mentioned, that streets like Kcenland and McMurray arc collectors. Keenland is not functioning as a collector so there was a certain level of expectation about the traffic flow on that and that it was way below what it was designed for. The reality was that as the whole area develops the streets will get a little more traffic and that he encouraged Mr. Smith to follow up on the traffic study. Motiou was approved 7-0. SUPERTOTS AT OAKRIDGE WEST 2nd Filing. #23-a7D Member Strom stated his concern was circulation and how this particular use would relate to other uses on the parcel. Frank Vaught, Vaught -Frye Architects stated the specific plan for Supertots addresses some future circulation that could extend on to the south. Their idea at this point is that Rule Drive as it currently exists on the west side of Lemay would have a curb cut on its northern boundary that would line up with the one • into the health care area that would then connect back through -3- as a parking circulation area into the parking lot. He stated there would be access from Rule back into the daycare area and visa versa. He stated they were combining the curb cut with the existing church. Member Strom stated his concern was what other kind of uses would be there and with the access point on Lemay Avenue, it might be pulling alot of traffic right by a daycare. He was concerned with the relationship of traffic and children. Mr. Vaught replied that what they had looked at on a very conceptual basis, was office type uses and would not anticipate that because of the type cal' entrance into the church and the daycare. It would be attractive to circulate through that parking lot back into the office area but at this point they had reserved the potential for the two to connect and if the use would change and would be more intense than an office, or a more compatible use was found, there may not be a desire to connect them at that point. Member O'Dell stated she had the same concern and would hope that at the time the southern piece was developed and also the piece to the west and the southwest, that it was realty taken into consideration. Member Strom moved for approval of Supertots at Oakridge West, 2nd Filing. Member Klataske seconded the motion. Member Strom commented that Staff and the Board keep an eye on the rest of the property as it is developed to remember to take a look at the circulation and the safety of the children in a daycare center and the process of any approval after this. Motion was approved 7-0, FOUR SEASONS 6TH FILING POD. *112-7 -Mr. Jeff King, property owner, stated he had purchased property on Moss Creek Drive and it was sold with the thought in mind that there would be a storm drainage ditch located behind the property, basically a 50 ft. open space - He stated they had met with Mr. Jones who represents the developer and staff to discuss the plans of the drainage ditch and had no problems with that. He stated since that meeting some things changed and the plat that is on file right now indicates the ditch had been moved. His concerns were number one, he felt as a property owner that the property was sold to him with the open space in mind and he may have paid for it in the purchase of the property. Number two was the concern that moving the ditch, there would still be some water problems given the slope and the conditions on Moss Creek Drive. He stated the action he was asking the Board to take was not to pass this item but to allow time for discussion and negotiation with the developer and the City to come to some resolution as to why this had changed all of a sudden and to see if they could negotiate something contrary to what had been proposed. Sherry Albertson -Clark stated that she had conversed with Susan Duba Hayes, the City's Storm Drainage Engineer who handled the project and has been assigned to review all the Four Seasons area so she was very familiar with the drainage basins- She stated Ms. Hayes' comments specifically regarding the -4-