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Home My WebLink AboutPENNY FLATS (BLOCK 33) - PDP - 32-05 - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING (3)NEIGHBORHOOD INFORMATION MEETING PROJECT 3 r DATE 1a e7 f OS T v 3 Z ti 61 a! clvrL:,�-q U SLt `t 7 G- '1v3 3/6` 2 m' 1- -4 ' t, tit 15 M SoN Ur. pr52qlo 4? • I`64Z baxsrni ►ti, Gaol. Lo m "2PVM0K §ay T �L �GPiYl� ZrZ'Zi' U(� ~Z LJeit (r✓Cl�u l�(c! s.(�e - r � $'o5y6 ry7c -123 -2dES kw�rrlo (� v. c �r�ldZ S�a�� Q E C ➢ L -97LZ2- zu W 5&r rl _ • 'c . c� WSy —O'CO Je d VrAindru• 4- 11.?l MS x� Citr� GCttz t(j�,1e{� ewe a. cl1 M -,- LOCI i,' L' 'CC're) % P /G' -e !/' �. /td Y'C)J�Z ':1 5 _. tt 1 Z ( q 74 1 4 3 Al O vogzl 2za- m :,L,n 23. Question: When are you, aiming to break ground on the project? Answer: By our projections, we're looking at a September 2006 groundbreaking. The meeting concluded at about 8:30 pm. NOTE: A second Neighborhood Meeting will be held lateri in the spring. At that meeting, Coburn will share their conceptual designs that=result from this discussion and an upcoming charrette process. The neighborhood will once again have a chance to comment and provide feedback on the proposal. Notification of the meeting will be posted in the Coloradoan and will go out to the same Affected Property Owners List as this- meeting. Those who did not receive a letter for the first meeting but who attended and signed in will also receive written notification. 281 North College Avenue 9 P.O. Box 580 0 Fort Collins, CO 80522-0580 • (970) 221-6750 • FAX (970) 416-2020 17. Comment: I'd like to see a bread baker here. Question: How much control do you, the developer have in the selection of the end'users? : Answer: Because this project is mostly residential, there is less economic pressure on the commercial component. We have sought out tenants in the past and will do so here, too. We can work with them early on to make the. project attractive to them by customizing the space for them and working• out mutually beneficial financial arrangements. Another possibility we are considering is owner occupied businesses where the owner lives on site. 18. Question: Would you please talk about the sort of outdoor spaces you are planning to provide? Hopefully this project won't be all building. We want to dine: alfresco and have patios. Answer: There is a pedestrian spine that is planned (by the city) to run north south through the middle of the block to connect Mason Street North and the spine to the south that runs through the Justice Center, etc. Some units will likely front on that spine. Useable outdoor space is critical to a successful project in this region. There will be lots of opportunity for providing a variety of outdoor space. 19. Comment: Remember the Poudre River to the north for views and access. 20. Comment: I work at NAI (NW of site). I hope you'll keep the building low so it doesn't affect the sunshine in my office.:. 21. Comment: The railroad tracks are dangerous for bicycles and cars too. People race the trains. Can I see a show of hands for who wants to see the trains go away? (Several people raised their hands.) How about trains staying? (No ,hands, but a comment that the railroad made this .town and contributed substantially to the history of the community.) 22. Comment: We'd like to see the railroad turn.into a commuter rail. 22. Question: Will you need to pre -sell the units? Answer: Typically, yes, we pre -sell once the project has been approved (and there will be pre -construction pricing too...!) Response: Good idea. We know Wolff/Lyon so well get in touch. Thanks. '. 12. Comment: I would love to see something that is a blend- more contemporary yet appropriate to this context and respectful of the historic buildings, like the trolley barn. I like the blend I see in the slides of your other work. It might be good to incorporate some live/work space for art studios, etc.. ' We'd love a SOHO loft without the exorbitant price tag.. No more mimicry and fake stuff; Fort Collins has enough brightly colored clapboard stuff and Mountain Lodge motif. Fit the Fort Collins context and build it to last! 13. Question: Have you seen the Emma Malaby grocery store?' It has a nice feel for a local market. Answer: No, we haven't come across that yet. Well check it out. 14. Question: You say you're going to fit into the neighborhood. Define "neighborhood." Answer: We will address context of the immediate facing blocks as well as the larger neighborhood context. Follow-up comment: I would resent this project being all residential. I want to see some commercial development too: Don't "down - zone" this property. 15. Comment: In order to attract small local grocery stores etc., there are issues in the City's Zoning definitions that will need to be addressed first, like the definition of "convenience store". It makes the difference between a $56,000 building permit and a $9000 one. Response: We start with the vision for the site and then we work on making it happen. This wouldn't'be the first time'that we worked to revise the codes to make somethirig'happen. 16. Comment: Please no bars or night clubs; we don't want to -see 21 year old kids out here at 2 am. ) Answer: We might consider an upscale pub -type establishment depending on the hours of operation and the percentage. of food to drink served. It would need to be appropriate for this residential setting. 8. Comment: I have lived in Old Town for 20+ years and would like to urbanize and downsize once I have an empty nest. I want it to be affordable and well -designed, .sustainable/green-built. I'm really looking for "co -housing" without the "co." Response: You are in the demographic that we expect will be most likely to be interested in this development. We are hoping that this will be affordable to people with. middle incomes but please note that we are not planning any. "affordable -housing", per se at this time. I . 9. Comment: I hope you will use the existing trolley barn to - support the neighborhood and provide a community asset. We'd love to see it used for an art center, a farmer's market, etc. Response (Coburn): We. are incorporating the trolley barn into our thinking and design concepts for the project. (Anne Aspen): The barn is a registered historic landmark and the City will retain ownership of it. There are many ideas that have been floating around about how best to use it. These include a year round farmers market, and also a transportation museum, which the City has received grant funding for already. Unfortunately the City does not have sufficient funding to do much, of anything with it right now. Follow-up Question: Maybe the developer could chip in�some to make' something happen there? Answer: We'll certainly be open if something like that. came 'up: ' 10. Comment: I was born and raised in San Francisco next to'a.fltehouse.. I . . loved the mixed -use there and look forward to, it, here. I liked • Coburn's projects that they showed: I'd like to see a corner store (NOT a 7-11 or typical convenience'stote) and a dry cleaners at Block 33. I love the train... (others echoed . wanting a corner store and dry cleaners, and that they loved the train.) 11. Comment: You might talk with the Mason Street North developer to coordinate complementary commercial services. Neighborhood Meeting, we'll have more concrete plans and information to share with you. Right now, we are just gathering information. 4. Question: What is the minimum and maximum of people or units that will be located on this site? Answer: The zoning will allow 90-174 residential units. We have not gotten far enough into the design to know exactly Where well fall in that range. We will be gearing it. towards the middle market, not the high end. The project will also be phased and will evolve with a master plan. Also keep in mind that the commercial element will probably be constant —if the project is bigger, it will get more residential not more commercial. Commercial might work well to buffer the train too. 5. Question: What are the height restrictions? Answer: The City has overlaying Codes to regulate the height. The project will be not more than 4-5 stories but mostly 2-3 stories, well within the height restrictions. The parking requirements will limit the height we build more than the zoning regulations. 6. Comment: Traffic on Cherry Street is a big problem and it isn't going away. It's especially bad when the train is crossing. 7. Question: In your presentation, you mentioned managing the impacts of the railroad. Can you explain what you meant? Answer: We are aware that the train will be a. significant factor'in the design of this project. We intend to work with the train and design the project to buffer the railroad by minimizing vibration and noise from the trains. With that said, "we have a similar project that is near a train and though we worried about the negative impacts the trains might bring, it's the aspect of the development that residents say they like the most! What do you think about the trains? Answers (from audience): The only time I ' ever worried about the trains was sixteen years ago when I was expecting my son --the hospital was on the other side of the tracks. Another responded, "What train?" commercial element that supports the neighborhood. We will stay attuned to the sorts of uses that would benefit the neighborhood. 2. Question: What will the project look like? Answer: We don't know yet. What was great about the RFP process we went through with the City was that we didn't have to submit a design —the City was looking for qualifications only. That allows us to be here today in a financial sense and it allows us to spend time researching the neighborhood context and concerns to incorporate them into the design. We're working within a broad range of feasibility right now. We want to hear your feedback and get ideas from you at this point. 3. Question: What was the City looking for when they chose Coburn? Answer: (Anne Aspen) The evaluation criteria listed in the RFP included the. following: Does the proposal show an understanding of the project objective, methodology to be used and results_ that are desired from the project? Does the Team have the f inancial capacity to undertake this project? Is there sufficient evidence of pertinent and successful prior experience in residential, mixed. -use, downtown•development projects?. Have previous projects been delivered on time, at or under budget, attractive; sensitive to their context, functional outside and inside, built with sustainable or green technology?; Are all of the'required qualifications represented sufficientlyon the Development Team? Do the persons who will be working on the project have appropriate skills, training and experience? Is sufficient staff with the requisite skills assigned and available to engage in the project? Does the Development Team have a local presence with sufficient - dedication of staff to make decisions, -attend frequent meetings and perform day to day !tasks? Does'the Development Team have -previous experience working successfully together and/or working successfully on municipal projects or projects of similar size, scope, -and nature? Does the Development Team show an understanding of effective communication methods when ,interacting with municipal. development review teams or similarly sized or diverse reviewing groups?' Follow-up Question: What will be -the range for -the sale price- per unit? • - - Answer: We want to tailor the unit prices to the middle range of Fort Collins income. Next time we meet for our second Communit, . Tanning and Environmental S. ices Current Planning City of Fort Collins NEIGHBORHOOD INFORMATION MEETING #1 PROJECT: Block 33; , DATE: February, 9, 2005 APPLICANT: Coburn Development, Inc. (represented by John Koval, Dan Rotner, Pete Weber) CITY PLANNER: Anne Aspen, Asst. Project Manager FACILITATOR: Ginny Sawyer, Neighborhood Resources Office The Applicant is proposing a mostly residential, mixed -use project on city - owned land between Cherry and Maple on the north and south and Howes and Mason on the west and east. This is a different type of project than is usually the topic of a Neighborhood Meeting, in that the City owns the property and is partnering on this project. The City selected the Applicant from a pool of 8 teams who submitted valid responses to a public Request for Proposal process held in the Fall of 2004. The City hopes to achieve a policy objective with this development of creating middle income downtown housing opportunities to support Downtown by bringing disposable income and an increased 24-hour presence here. The developer will ultimately purchase the property from the City. The meeting started at 7:00 pm. After a brief introduction to the process and a brief presentation by the developer, the following discussion ensued (the questioner or commenter is an audience member unless otherwise stated and the answerer or responder is the developer unless otherwise stated): QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS, 1. Question: Will the project be mixed -use? Answer: The City desires mixed -use for this project. We have experience with mixed -use projects of this sort. We will evaluate a market study that is being generated right now for us and determine the commercial/residential proportion then. It will probably be mostly residential with a small