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Subject: Burns Annexation
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Susan Kirkpatrick called this morning regarding the Burns annexation.
and development proposal.
Apparently, the Burns' have scheduled or met with each Council member
individually to discuss the annexation and related development issues.
Susan stated that while she understands that the provision of water
service is bascially a technical issue, her view is that the annexation
and subsequent development of the property does beyond the water service
issue. More specifically, the Burns' have indicated that they plan, as
part.of the development proposal, to dedicate a portion of their property
as open space and for public easements. Further, it is Susan's understanding
that technically the city can provide water service.to the property (although.
it will be more costly to do so). Conseqently, she would like some information
from staff as to any trade-offs between water service provision and open space.
In other words, if the property owner is willing to dedicate land for open
space purposes, is there some way to justify providing the more expensive
water service in lieu of what it would have cost the city for- open space?
Please let me know when you think you can have a response,as I'm sure
we'll discuss this at Council Staff lunch on Monday 1/7.
One other point. Burns may request another postponement since they will
apparently be meeting with the FC/Loveland Water-District.on Jan 16 to see
if the District would be willing to provide water serviceto their property.
Susan felt that if they didn't request the postponement, the Council would
likely table the matter until after the Jan 16 meeting.
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Start of Item 14.
Message. Dated: 02/12/91 at 1316.
Subject: Burns Water Service Issue
Sender: Tom PETERSON / CFC52/01 Contents: 2.
TO: Ken WAIDO / CFC52/01
construction and what the limit really is? Doesn't this have a
bearing on property value and thus potential land use?
Answer: If this is a rhetorical question then please ignore the
following answer.
In theory, utility issues should not be the primary factor in
determining land use. However, the reality of this situation is.
that the cost of developing the area above 5200 will be high
because of the water service requirements. This is in direct
conflict with any developer's primary objective ... to make money.
Developers may have an expectation that the area between 5200 and
5250 can be developed, however the cost of doing so may prohibit
that from happening. The options are to either not develop or cut
the cost of development (lower the standards). All developers face
this dilemma constantly, whether developing along the foothills or
on the east side of town. The Burns are facing this issue ricjht
now and it appears their ultimate desire is to have the Council
approve "lowering the standards" so the development can proceed.
Question: What is the present point in the process and what.are
any upcoming decision points?
Answer: We have (will be sent today) provided Rex Burns with a
general.plan of how the City could serve his development. There
are numerous variations to this plan and we will be working with
Rex and his consultant to try to iron out the details. Because
they seem to be interested in pursuing only the lowest cost option
(means more $$s for them) they -may not like any of the options we
Present to them. This is where the political and technical issues
.may get mixed together.
The District will also be reviewing the possibility of serving the
development. They (the District) are presently waiting for Rex's
consultant to provide them with information.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Mike
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Start of Item 15.
Message.
Subject: Burns Service Request
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FROM: Mike SMITH / CFC52/01
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The following is in response to a service request from Council
Member- Winokur. Council Member Winokur met with Ruth Burns and her
daughter Judy Allay on December 2,8th regarding the issue of water
supply to the proposed Burns Ranch development located SW of the
intersection of Drake Rd and Overland Trail. Some of the proposed
development is located above the 5200 elevation which is the upper
service limit for the City's system. Council Member Winokur has
inquired about: (1) the technical issues involved with this
situation, (2) if there was a written response to a October 26th
letter from the Burn's consultant (RBD) to the City Planning Dept,
and (3) when someone will be answering the Burn's questions
regarding water supply.
City staff members have provided Rex Burns (Ruth's son and
Judy's brother) with considerable information and I have
personally met with him on a number of different occasions to
discuss this issue. The information that Ruth 1.and Judy are
seeking could be easily provided by Rex. Never the less, here
is the present status of the situation;
As early as July 1990, Water Utility staff members provided
written information to the Planning Dept which was forwarded
to the Burns regarding the.City's problems related to serving
areas higher than the 5200 elevation and possible solutions to
providing service to Burn's proposed development.
Apparently ignoring the information provided earlier; Burn's
consultant, RBD Inc., sent a letter dated October 26, 1990, to
the Planning Dept suggesting that an "in -line" booster pump
station would solve the problem....a solution which was
determined to be not acceptable back in July. I met with Rex,
his consultants and representatives from planning on November
26th to discuss possible solutions. During that meeting I
told Rex and .his consultant that, as was outlined in the July
information we provided them, the "in -line" booster pump
station was not an acceptable solution. Why? These types of
buried, metal pump stations are maintenance intensive and
would provide a lower level of reliability than the existing
system-. They are a disaster waiting to happen. When I worked
for the Colorado Springs Water Utility the utility purchase
two of these "in -line" booster stations as temporary solutions
to pressure problems until more reliable, permanent facilities
were constructed: They are not a reliable permanent solution.
Back to the meeting. During the meeting we all agreed to
pursue the following course of action:
1. The Water Utility Staff would provide Rex's consultant
with a preliminary layout of the necessary improvements
the City would require in order to provide service to
Rex's development. This is more detailed information
than provided back in July. Development of that
information is almost complete... should be complete by
the middle of next week. It should not be a surprise
that the design the City would find acceptable will cost
more to build than the one proposed by the Burns family
and their consultant.
2. That Rex would pursue obtaining water service from the
Fort Collins -Loveland Water District as an alternative to
getting service from the City. In that area of town, the
District can serve a higher elevation than the City
because the District's water tank is higher. I agreed to
attend the District's Board meeting on December,18th to
provide any support or answer any questions regarding why
the City could not serve Rex's development.. At Rex's
request, I also wrote a letter to the District regarding
such. At their meeting on the 18th, the District Board
told Rex they would consider Rex's request and get back
to him later....I think that will be in the middle of
January or so. Rex's mother (Ruth) was also at the Board
meeting.
More specifically, the answers to Council Member Winokur's
three questions are as follows: .
1. The technical issues focus on whether the City should
expand its water system. utilizing facilities which cost
less up front but will result in higher maintenance and
operation costs, and will provide a level of service less
than what is provided.to theother customers. There are
consultants that will say that these buried, metal "in -
line" booster stations are the greatest thing since
sliced bread. We strongly disagree with that opinion.
2. There was a written response to the October 26th letter
from RBD to the Planning Dept. That response consisted
of the written "Project Comment Sheet" (standard form
used to reply to proposed development activity) and a
copy of the July memo which outlined the service options.
3. I would be happy to call Rex Burns and remind him of what
he agreed to at the Nov 26th meeting and the status of
such.
In short, it appears that the Burns family is trying to pursue a
political answer to a technical problem.
Mike
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Start of Item 16.
Message.
Subject: Burns Update
Sender: Tom PETERSON / CFC52/01
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Just a brief .update on the Burns water service issue:
Late last week Rex Burns submitted his consultant's study/report
to the District for consideration. The bottom line is the
recommended improvements will cost about $280,000. The annual
additional O&M costs are projected to be about $19,400 per year.
The consultant is also recommending that a GID be formed to
"handle" the annual O&M costs!! The following is a quote from
the report:
"THE GID WOULD CONTRACT WITH THE DISTRICT TO PROVIDE ALL NECESSARY
OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITIES. THE GID WOULD THEN
TURN ALL ITS REVENUES OVER TO THE DISTRICT AS PAYMENT FOR THE COST
OF OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE SERVICES. THE DISTRICT WOULD REQUIRE,
AS A CONDITION OF PROVIDING WATER SERVICE FOR PROPERTIES WITHIN THE
STUDY AREA,, THAT PROPERTY OWNERS CONSENT TO INCLUSION IN THE GID.
THE GID BUDGET AND ASSOCIATED MILL LEVY WOULD BE SET ANNUALLY BY
THE CITY UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE DISTRICT."
The consultant also estimated that the additional mill levy would
be about j:53 mills.
That is all for now. Let me know if you have any questions. I will
keep you informed of new information as I receive it.
Mike
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