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281 North College Avenue
PO Box 580
Fort Collins, CO 80522
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developmentreview
December 17, 2019
Kim Medina
Cherry Street LLC
308 Cherry Street
Fort Collins, CO 80521
RE: 308 Cherry Street ‑ Carriage House, FDP190011, Round Number 2
Please see the following summary of comments from City staff and outside reviewing
agencies for your submittal of 308 Cherry Street ‑ Carriage House. If you have questions
about any comments, you may contact the individual commenter or direct your questions
through your Development Review Coordinator, Brandy Bethurem Harras via phone at
970‑416‑2744 or via email at bbethuremharras@fcgov.com.
Comment Summary:
Department: Light And Power
Contact: Austin Kreager, 970‑224‑6152, akreager@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 1
06/11/2019: FOR APPROVAL:
According to our standards as well as City Municipal Code, every dwelling unit
must be individually metered. This carriage house is to be considered a
dwelling unit, therefore, this unit must have their own meter and separate electric
service. Please show this new electric service on your next submittal. Thank
you.
A separate electric service and meter provided for proposed carriage house.
Comment Number: 2
06/11/2019: INFORMATION ONLY:
Light and Power would like to remind you that all of our facilities must have a ten
foot clearance away from all water, wastewater, and storm sewer facilities. We
also require a three-foot clearance away from all other utilities with the exception
of communication lines.
Based on the available space between the existing house and property lines, the City agreed
on a 6-foot minimum separation between the proposed water and electrical services to the
carriage house.
Comment Number: 3
06/11/2019: INFORMATION ONLY:
Development charges, electric Capacity Fee, Building Site charges and any
system modification charges necessary will apply to this development.
Comment noted.
Comment Number: 4
06/11/2019: INFORMATION ONLY:
You may contact Austin Kreager, project engineering if you have questions.
(970) 224‑6152. You may reference Light & Power’s Electric Service
Standards at
http://www.fcgov.com/utilities/img/site_specific/uploads/ElectricServiceStandar
ds_FINAL_18November2016_Amendment.pdf
You may reference our policies, development charge processes, and use our
fee estimator at
http://www.fcgov.com/utilities/business/builders‑and‑developers.
Comment noted.
Comment Number: 5
12/10/2019: FOR APPROVAL:
Your comment response letter indicated that you were going to use "stacked"
meters. All of your plans reflect a meter on the front house and a meter on the
new carriage house. If you are intending to use one service to the front house
and then backfeed the new structure, please be aware that the conductor in the
ground is limited to 125a. If you are planning on having a meter placed on the
new structure, you will need a new electric service. From your plans, it appears
that you are going to be joint trenching this service with the water service. This is
not allowable.
A separate electric service and meter is proposed for the carriage house. Based on the
available space between the existing house and property lines, the City agreed on a 6-foot
minimum separation between the proposed water and electrical services to the carriage
house.
Department: Water‑Wastewater Engineering
Contact: Dan Mogen, 970‑305‑5989, dmogen@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 1
12/09/2019: INFORMATION:
Thank you for your response. I understand the fire sprinkler system will be
served by the 3/4" service and that a tank and pump or other accommodations
will be made to prevent the need for a separate fire service.
06/10/2019: In the comment response letter, I see that a fire sprinkler system is
proposed to be installed. Has this system been designed to determine if the
proposed water service will be adequate or if a separate fire service will be
required? If this has not been determined, I encourage early investigation into
what is needed for the fire protection system as a 3/4" service is typically
inadequate or requires additional considerations such as a tank/pump in the
building. Please contact me with any questions.
According to the sprinkler system consultant, the existing static water pressures in Cherry
Street are adequate to provide enough pressure for a sprinkler system at the carriage house
using low flow sprinklers utilizing a ¾” water service line.
Comment Number: 2
12/09/2019: FOR APPROVAL ‑ UPDATED:
Per earlier discussion as well as Light & Power comments, please provide a
minimum of 6' of separation from trees and between water and electric
services.
06/10/2019: It appears the proposed water and sewer services run under
existing trees and do not provide adequate separation. Please review and
revise to meet separation requirements as shown on the landscape plan.
The required 6’ separation between existing tress and proposed water and sewer services are
shown on new utility plans.
Comment Number: 3
12/09/2019: FOR APPROVAL ‑ UPDATED:
Please see updated redlines regarding separations, utility configuration,
installation questions, and details.
06/10/2019: Please see redlines provided via PDF. I encourage you to reach
out with any questions or to review potential revisions, and I’d be happy to set
up a meeting or conference call to do so.
All redlines have been addressed on new utility plans.
Department: Stormwater Engineering
Contact: Dan Mogen, 970‑305‑5989, dmogen@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 1
12/09/2019: FOR APPROVAL ‑ UPDATED:
Please update calculations to include gravel and patio areas. Gravel is
considered 40% impervious and the deck area could be as well. Is the
flagstone patio to be set in gravel or concrete? Please clarify, and if gravel,
please use 40% for this area; if concrete, please use 100%.
06/10/2019: Please document the net change in impervious area as there are
areas being removed and added to the site. Please note that there are multiple
versions of the site plan that need to be aligned as there is currently variation
between them.
Site impervious area calculations updated as requested. The proposed flagstone patio is to be
set in gravel and notes are updated on the plans.
Comment Number: 2
12/09/2019: FOR APPROVAL ‑ UPDATED:
The proposed grading need to clarified further. Please details both the east
and west property lines to show the drainage pattern in these areas. The
proposed carriage house is set only 5' from the adjacent property line and
existing building ‑ it needs to be detailed to show how runoff from the proposed
will be routed to protect the existing building in this limited space.
06/10/2019: Please clarify the proposed grading. Currently, it appears runoff
from at least a portion of the proposed impervious areas is directed east onto
adjacent property. Please show proposed grading will be routed to either the
north or south property boundary and not adversely affect adjacent properties.
A drainage memo may also be submitted to explain the proposed grading and
drainage and justify what has been proposed (note: a drainage memo is not
required at this point based on the impervious area added with this project,
which is assumed to be less than 1000sf).
Also, the grading/swale on the west side of the proposed carriage house needs
to be clarified to show how it is directed between the proposed carriage house
and the adjacent off‑site building.
Proposed grading design updated to provide a drainage swale on the west side of the carriage
house, downstream from the neighbor’s existing concrete driveway and garage. An 8-inch-
high timber wall or berm is proposed along a portion of the eastern property line to minimize
the potential of proposed stormwater flows onto the adjacent property. A drainage memo is
provided based on your recent request.
Comment Number: 3
12/09/2019: FOR APPROVAL ‑ UPDATED:
Please see updated redlines regarding grading and drainage.
06/10/2019: Please see redlines provided via PDF. I encourage you to reach
out with any questions or to review potential revisions, and I’d be happy to set
up a meeting or conference call to do so.
Redline comments have been addressed on new utility plans.
Contact: Jesse Schlam, 970‑218‑2932, jschlam@fcgov.com
Topic: Erosion Control
Comment Number: 4
12/09/2019: For Information Only:
No Comment Erosion Control project shows to be less than 10000 SF.
Comment noted.
Department: PFA
Contact: Jim Lynxwiler, 970‑416‑2869, jlynxwiler@poudre‑fire.org
Topic: General
Comment Number: 3
12/08/2019: MIXED USE OCCUPANCY
Floor plans indicate the carriage house will be split into two separate units and
present as a
mixed‑use occupancy. Please contact the building department to
confirm the Occupancy Group
Classifications for this structure as this may
trigger other fire sprinkler requirements.
The proposed building shall be a non-primary residence and should be classified as R-3
occupancy.
Comment Number: 4
12/08/2019: RESIDENTIAL FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM
> The requirement to install a fire sprinkler system shall be noted on the plans.
> For a sprinkler system in a R‑3 Occupancy, the applicant is allowed to upsize
the proposed 3/4" water line to a 1" line with no additional tap fee in order to
accommodate a sprinkler system requirement. Contact Water Utilities for more
information. If resizing to a 1" line is not possible, a tank and pump system may
be required to meet minimum sprinkler flows.
> Should the structure be classified as mixed‑use, a R‑13 sprinkler system will
be required.
The proposed building should be classified as R-3 occupancy. According to the sprinkler
system consultant, the existing static water pressures in Cherry Street are adequate to
provide enough pressure for a sprinkler system at the carriage house using low flow
sprinklers. Fire sprinkler system requirement noted on plans.
Comment Number: 5
12/08/2019: ADDRESS POSTING
The carriage house shall be addressed separately from the existing business.
Details of address posting at Cherry Street shall be determined prior to plans
approval with details added to the plans.
Per construction note on utility plan Sheet 4, applicant shall post separate carriage house
address at existing driveway entrance per PFA requirements.
Department: Building Services
Contact: Katy Hand, khand@fcgov.com
Topic: Building Insp Plan Review
Comment Number: 1
06/10/2019: BUILDING PERMIT:
If the building will be sprinkled with a residential sprinkler system for fire access,
a sprinkler system design in accordance with plumbing code P2904 will need to
be submitted at time of building permit application.
The proposed building should be classified as R-3 occupancy. Fire sprinkler system
requirement noted on plans.
Comment Number: 2
06/10/2019: BUILDING PERMIT:
The current adopted codes and amendments are listed on our website:
https://www.fcgov.com/building/codes.php
Comment noted.
Comment Number: 3
06/10/2019: BUILDING PERMIT:
An air tightness test will be required at the end of the project.
Comment noted.
Comment Number: 4
06/10/2019: BUILDING PERMIT:
The new dwelling must be PV ready (conduit in place) ‑ Local amendment
Comment noted.
Comment Number: 6
REQUIRED AT TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT: Buildings using only electric heat
must meet prescriptive insulation requirements. Please see the handout linked
for details.
https://www.fcgov.com/building/files/2015‑irc‑residential‑energy‑code‑complian
ce‑form‑v2.pdf?1566857894
Comment noted.
Department: Engineering Development Review
Contact: Morgan Uhlman, 970‑416‑4344, muhlman@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 3
12/09/2019: FOR APPROVAL:
Please address my redlines for minor comments about the Utility Plan set.
All redlines have been addressed on new utility plans.
Department: Planning Services
Contact: Pete Wray, 970‑221‑6754, pwray@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 8
12/09/2019: INFORMATION:
If there are no further changes based on Utility staff review, then I am ready for
mylars.
Comment noted.
Department: Technical Services
Contact: Jeff County, 970‑221‑6588, jcounty@fcgov.com
Topic: Construction Drawings
Comment Number: 6
12/05/2019: FOR APPROVAL‑UPDATED:
There are line over text issues. See redlines.
All line over text issues have been addressed on new utility plans.
All line over text issues have been addressed on new architectural plans.
Comment Number: 9
12/05/2019: FOR FINAL APPROVAL:
Some of the sheet titles in the sheet index & title blocks do not match the sheet
titles on the noted sheets. See redlines.
All sheet titles match sheet index with new utility plans.
All sheet titles match sheet index with new architectural plans.
Topic: Site Plan
Comment Number: 8
12/05/2019: FOR FINAL APPROVAL:
Some of the sheet titles in the sheet index do not match the sheet titles on the
noted sheets. See redlines.
All sheet titles match sheet index with new utility plans.
All sheet titles match sheet index with new architectural plans.
Addi�onal U�lity Coordina�on
Department /
Reviewer
Mixed Use 2 Residen�al Spaces 1 Residen�al Unit
Planning Services /
Pete Wray
Reviewed as Carriage House
use, with accessory use
Reviewed as Carriage House
use
Reviewed as Carriage House
use
Engineering /
Morgan Uhlman
Stroud
-Exis�ng sidewalk meets
ADA requirements.
-An excava�on permit will
be needed to do work in the
right-of-way to connect
u�li�es to the mains.
-Exis�ng sidewalk meets
ADA requirements.
-An excava�on permit will
be needed to do work in the
right-of-way to connect
u�li�es to the mains.
-Exis�ng sidewalk meets
ADA requirements.
-An excava�on permit will
be needed to do work in the
right-of-way to connect
u�li�es to the mains.
Stormwater &
WWW/ Dan
Mogen
The carriage house will be
required to have a separate
water and sewer service for
each use (upstairs and
downstairs serviced
separately).
The services to the
residen�al unit may be as
currently proposed in the
u�lity plans.
The services to the
accessory space can either;
1. be separate services from
the main; or,
2. be extended from the
front commercial building
with a covenant agreement
put in place – this
agreement essen�ally
requires separate services to
be installed if the property
were to ever be subdivided
– please contact me for
agreement language if you
would like to review.
The carriage house will be
required to have separate
water and sewer services
from the front commercial
building, and each
residen�al unit will need to
be serviced separately – that
is, the services as currently
proposed in the u�lity plan
will need to split to each
residen�al unit and each
unit will be required to have
a separate water meter.
The carriage house will be
required to have a separate
water and sewer service
from the front commercial
building.
This is what has been
proposed in the currently
submi�ed u�lity plan.
Light & Power /
Aus�n Kreager
If the carriage house is to be
the proposed mixed use
building, the carriage house
will be required to have two
meters, one commercial,
one residen�al for a total of
three meters on the
property. All new meters will
be charged a capacity fee.
The service conductor would
be owned by the property
owner, and it would be their
responsibility to install the
service wire to our
transformer on Cherry. If
this distance is too great to
install a commercial service,
or engineering takes
excep�on to the commercial
service in right of way, we
will need to work out an
acceptable transformer
loca�on on your property to
be installed at the owner’s
expense. U�lity separa�on
requirements are a concern
on this site, and there would
need to be adequate room
to install the needed
facili�es.
If the carriage house is to be
made into two residen�al
dwelling units, there will
need to be two separate
residen�al meters installed
each with their own capacity
fee for a total of three
meters on the property. If
these two meters are
stacked and total up to 200
amps or less, then Light and
Power can install a new
service conductor to our
power source at the owner’s
expense. If the meters
exceed 200 amps, this will
be a customer owned
service to be installed and
owned by the owner. There
have been code revisions
proposed to make
everything other than single
family detached units be
responsible for their own
service, but it has not been
accepted yet. U�lity
separa�on requirements are
a concern on this site, and
there would need to be
adequate room to install the
needed facili�es.
If the carriage house is to be
made into one residen�al
unit, there will s�ll need to
be a new service and meter
installed with the associated
fees. This would be a total of
two meters on the property.
Light and Power would need
to install a new service
conductor to the new
structure from Cherry St at
the expense of the project.
Depending on the power
requirements of your
structure, there may be
addi�onal system
modifica�ons needed. It is
not an op�on to master
meter this site as it is against
city code and our standards.
It would result in a
residen�al customer being
billed at a commercial rate
code, and this cannot be
allowed. U�lity separa�on
requirements are a concern
on this site, and there would
need to be adequate room
to install the needed
facili�es.