HomeMy WebLinkAboutOVERLAND HILLS WEST RF SITE PLAN REVIEW - 38 90D - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTES. PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
January 25, 1993
Council Liaison: Gerry Horak
Staff Liaison: Tom Peterson
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board began at 6:35 p.m. in the Council
Chambers, City Hall West, 300 Laporte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado. Board members
present included Chairperson Bernie Strom, Joe Carroll, Jim Klataske, Laurie O'Dell, Jan
Cottier and Renee Clements -Cooney. Board member Lloyd Walker was absent. Staff members
present included Planning Director Tom Peterson, Chief Planner Sherry Albertson -Clark, Steve
Olt, Kirsten Whetstone, Ted Shepard, Mike Herzig, Deputy City Attorney Paul Eckman and
Kayla Ballard.
AGENDA REVIEW
Planning Director Tom Peterson presented the Consent Agenda which included: Item 1 -
Election of Officers - pulled off the Consent Agenda for consideration and placed at the end of
the Discussion Agenda; Item 2 - Minutes of the December 17, 1992 meeting; Item 3 -
Pinecone Apartments PUD - Final, Case #60-91E, was pulled for Discussion by Staff; Item 4 -
. Gitsdorf Garage Expansion - Non -Conforming Use, Case #60-92; Item 5 - Centre for
Advanced Technology PUD, 15th Filing - Preliminary (New Mercer Commons PUD), Case
#53-85AB; Item 6 - Centre for Advanced Technology PUD, 8th Filing - Amended
Preliminary and Final, Case #53-85AC; Item 7 - Siegmund Medical Office PUD -
Preliminary and Final, Case #62-92A; Item 8 - Paragon Point PUD, Phase III - Preliminary,
Case #48-91E, was pulled by the Board for discussion; Item 9 - Oakridge Village PUD, 9th
Filing - Preliminary and Final, Case #13-82BA, was pulled by an audience member; Item 10 -
Modification of Conditions of Final Approval.
Mr. Peterson presented the Discussion Agenda which consisted of: Item 11 - Shadowbrook
PUD - Amended Preliminary and Final, Case #61-92; Item and 12 - Overland Hills West -
RF Site Plan Review, Case #38-90D.
Member O'Dell moved to approve Consent items 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 10. Member Clements -
Cooney seconded the motion. The motion to approve passed 6-0.
PINECONE APARTMENTS PUD - FINAL - CASE #60-91E
Kirsten Whetstone, City Planner, gave a brief Staff Report of the proposed project. She stated
that this project was pulled for discussion because the illuminated stripe on the gasoline canopy
at the convenience store would not be considered a sign element subject to the Sign Code but
• rather an element of the PUD which would be required to be reviewed by the Planning and
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Member Carroll moved to approve Shadowbrook PUD Amended Preliminary and Final
with the condition recommended by staff. He commented that many uncompleted PUDs have
been reviewed by the Board and then brought back to the Board in a different form than
originally contemplated. He stated that this project does conform with the original development
proposal and is an infill project that the Board encourages. Member O'Dell seconded the
motion. The motion to approve passed 6-0.
OVERLAND HILLS WEST - RF SITE PLAN REVIEW
Steve Olt gave the Staff Report recommending approval.
Member Clements -Cooney asked about the status of the Transportation Plan.
Mr. Peterson replied that the most recent occurrence with the Transportation Plan was the
adoption of a number of policies. Currently, the structure of the circulation system is being
reviewed and Overland Trail was one of the items being evaluated. He stated that it is
anticipated that this will be brought to City Council and the Planning and Zoning Board
sometime in 1993.
Jim Gefroh, Gefroh-Hattman, Inc. and applicant, pointed out, on slides, the location of open
space, the location of the lots, etc., for the Board. He added that Horsetooth Road would be
extended to the west, cross Spring Creek and then tie into Overland Trail. He stated that a
major bridge would be constructed over Spring Creek. He stated that all of the lots were
surrounded by private open space which tie into each other. The properties west of the major
ridge that moves north/south along the properties will be dedicated to the City as a part of the
Pineview open space which would include a dedicated easement for public access that would
allow access to the open space. He stated that all of the natural features will be preserved as
much as possible.
Chairperson Strom asked if the 30 foot strip along the north edge of the property was intended
to have a trail access.
Mr. Olt replied that it was intended to provide a trail from the termination of West Horsetooth
Road and Overland Trail up and across the ridge into the publicly -dedicated open space and into
Pineridge.
Mr. Peterson stated that essentially, there is an existing trail that people have carved over the
years into the Pineridge open space. There has been an attempt to preserve that trail.
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Member Carroll asked if it were a possibility that Overland Trail did not continue north but
rather Horsetooth Road came into Overland Trail and continued south.
Mr. Olt responded that it would be possible that Overland Trail would continue south to County
Road 38E. He added that Horsetooth Road would terminate at Overland Trail and take a 90
degree turn to the south to service this development.
Mr. Peterson stated that the spur of Overland Trail and Horsetooth Road would connect down
to County Road 38E. He stated that the current plans were to terminate this spur at County
Road 38E.
Member Carroll stated that approving a plan such as this one would place the Transportation
Board and City Council in a position where they are forced to build Overland Trail to the north
because previously approved subdivisions and city streets require it to be built. He asked if this
was the case or does this issue remain open for determination.
Mr. Peterson stated that this issue would remain open for determination. He added that all that
was being planned for the future, in terms of right-of-way and acquisition, both on this plan and
what was done with the Quail Hollow subdivision, was planned for eventual widening to four
lanes.
Mike Herzig, City Civil Engineer, clarified that this street was not a local street but rather a 36
foot wide street and would function as two lanes. He added that the City was attempting to take
steps to leave the door open to whatever gets decided by City Council when that street is
changed from a major arterial to whatever is decided.
Member Cottier asked that if, half of a four -lane arterial is being built, and it was decided that
this will never be more than a 36 foot wide street, curb and gutter would have to be added to
the east side and will the row of trees be moved closer.
Mr. Peterson stated that the row of trees that will be put in will be outside the location of a
potential four -lane road. He added that if it was decided that the street will stay a 36 foot wide
street, curbing will have to be added on the east side.
Mr. Herzig stated that the applicant for this development was obligated to pay for both sides of
a local street along Overland Trail. The City's intent is that the applicant pay for the entire local
street portion and whatever improvements are placed on Overland Trail. He stated that
completing the remainder of the street width, putting in a curb and gutter, or finishing out the
street will come from the City's street oversizing fund.
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PUBLIC INPUT
Colin Garety, 545 Strachan, stated that the subdivision had fallen a little short of the density
goals in City policy plans. He stated that this project also is being approved on the basis of how
it fits on the site. What it doesn't take into account is the larger transportation issues. He stated
that the lots and the houses that will be built here are for people who have "base" jobs. Their
employment is on the eastern side. This means that every one of these houses where someone
works will require driving to work every day, which would be about 10 trips per household.
This subdivision would generate 600 trips per day in single -occupant vehicle travel. He added
that the limit for bicycle traffic appears to be about three miles. This does not follow the
policies for land use nor the transportation policies adopted by City Council. This plan does not
support moving away from single -occupancy vehicles and finding alternate modes of
transportation. He stated to support mass transit, density must be increased and developments
clustered. He believed that the City should change the way in which the City is planned and
built to support other means of transportation. There is a written commitment to a policy of
reducing vehicle miles traveled by the growth of the City by single -occupancy vehicles. The
widening of Overland Trail was due to the increase of traffic which comes because of approvals
of projects such as this one.
Public input was closed.
Member O'Dell commented that Mr. Garety's concerns were also concerns of the Board,
however, this was not the place to address those issues. She stated that in this particular case,
the overriding concern is the protection of the foothills environment. She believed that this
Board should review whether this meets the criteria that was set up several years ago with the
Foothills zoning district. She believed that this project does meet those criteria.
Member Clements -Cooney commented that the decision on Overland Trail would affect this
proposal. In the past, 'the LDGS has been criticized because it reviews sites in an exclusionary
fashion without looking at the "big picture." She believed that this was the situation with the
transportation plan not on line as of yet. She commented to Mr. Garety that he should continue
to be concerned and continue to work for his beliefs.
Mr. Peterson stated that Mr. Garety currently presides as the Chair for the City's Transportation
Board and is very active in all issues such as the air quality strategy, regional transportation,
densities, and issues that staff has been concerned with.
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Member Cottier believed that Mr. Garety had interesting and valid points, however, the Board
was not charged with prioritizing transportation concerns above other City policies. She stated
that within land use policies, this project does meet all the city policies and guidelines.
Member Clements -Cooney clarified that until the Transportation Plan goes before City Council,
the master street plan could not be changed. She stated that she felt uncomfortable with this
process. She added that she was upset with the City for delaying the adoption of the
Transportation Plan.
Chairperson Strom commented that this goes beyond what is done in land use policy because it
gets to the issue of markets and what people are looking for. He stated that today's society is
dedicated to the automobile.
Member O'Dell moved to approve Overland Hills West RF Site Plan Review. Member
Carroll seconded the motion.
Member O'Dell noted that the RF zoning district did not fall under the solar orientation
ordinance.
The motion to approve passed 5-1 with Member Clements -Cooney in the negative.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Mr. Peterson stated that the by-laws of the Planning and Zoning Board states that when the
Chairperson resigns, the Vice -Chair automatically assumes that term of office until September.
He stated that, in this case, Mr. Walker would assume the role of Chairperson. However, a
Vice -Chair needed to be selected.
Member Cottier nominated Member Carroll for Vice -Chair. Member Klataske seconded
the nomination. The nomination for Member Carroll for Vice -Chair passed 6-0.
The meeting adjourned at 9:35 p.m.