HomeMy WebLinkAboutPARAGON POINT PUD PRELIMINARY - 48 91A - REPORTS - CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONDecember 7, 1991
Fort Collins City Planning and Zoning Board
281 North College Ave.
Fort Collins, CO 80524
Dear Board Members:
We, the homeowners of SouthRidge Greens Community Association, wish to express
our total opposition to the possible extension of SouthRidge Greens Boulevard into
the proposed new development of Paragon Point P.U.D. for the following reasons:
1. SouthRidge Greens homeowners are being asked to participate in the risk
associated with a new development, and ,a new developer with no tract: record, if
project fails, or the developer choes_es_ n,,-. to qo bE.,...'I Phase, l, we end will,
more traffic, a longer dead end street, and no connection to Trilby Road, he
developer gains by the use of our street into his new development, and SouthRidg
receives nothing in return, except more traffic, more speed, more air pollution,
more noise, increased possibility of accidents, and reduced desirability of
property along the boulevard, making resale of homes more difficulty, to name a few.
In studying the entire new development plans, it appears as though there would
never be a sound financial reason to complete the last phase of the project, as it
is now planned. The last phase including approximately 30 home sites would then
require the construction of the last portion of SouthPidge Greens Boulevard to
Trilby Road, and Trilby Road improved.to Lemay Ave. This would be the most costly
phase of the development with the lowest return of the investment by nature of t11e
fact that only 30 lots remain for sale. Therefore, there is nothing that would
`!''Ce the developer to do the last phase. Because of the cost of development and
improvement of the two roads, the final phase of the development would be cost
prohibative, and the developer could simply wall: away from the project. Not only
would the residents of both subdivisions be adversly affected, but also the City of
Fort Collins.
2. We are very concerned about SAFETY in our neighborhood. Some of the
problem areas with regards to Paragon Point are as follows:
(A). _Extension of the boulevard._wil_1_ _require an_,a,d.d.i_t.i_on.a.l_s.tr-e.e.t-
crossing for the golf course. With 40,000 rounds of golf played each year, a total
hazard risk for the City of Fort Collins, as well ,as SouthRidge, ballons to 160,000
people crossing through a collector street. We feel the potentipl accident risk
would be drastically increased, leaving the City, it - -':;f', itizen boards
exposed to negligence potentials.
(B). Because SouthRidge Greens Boulevard is now a dead end cul-de-sac,
the children of the area have been using the street for roller skating, skate
boarding, bicycling, etc. Extending the boulevard would not necessarily halt the
use by children, just increase the possibility of accidents and injuries.
(C). The boulevard narrows just south of where Hummel Lane intersects to
a width of 36 feet. When vehicles are parked on both sides of the street, opposite
each other, it becomes very tight for two lane traffic.
(D). Sight distances at some of the intersections and golf crossings are
already quite limited. More traffic would increase the safety hazard. Front Nine
Drive, where it joins the Boulevard, is a good example of a short sight distance
problem.
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Boulevard south of Hummel Lane would thus result in well over 1,000 vehicles per day on
that section of roadway and probably close to 1,000 vehicles per day on the section south of
the Center Greens neighborhood.
Recommended Solutlon
In my view, the best solution to the access problem at Fossil Ridge would be to construct an
access street into the Phase 1 area directly flrom Lemay Avenue that could also serve the
proposed Phase 2 area. This roadway would have to cross Fossil Creek, but it would do so
only once and could serve to tie all of the Follil Ridge PUD together.
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I hope this information will be useful. If you have any questions, please contact me.
Sincerely,
IMGH, SCOTT & CLEARY, INC.
By •
Robert E. Leigh, P.E.
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Enclosure: Figure 1
DEAR NEIGHBOR:
December 11, 1991
This is to remind you of the upcoming Fort Collins
Planning and Zoning Board meeting next Monday, Dec. 16,
6:30 P.M., in the City Council Chambers, located at 300
Laporte Ave. --the new City Hall.
The proposed new development just south of the golf
course will be discussed at that time. The new developer is
asking to have SouthRidge Greens Boulevard extended into
the new development. This road would cut right across the
golf course at #12 tee. Extending this road will cause the
residents of SouthRidge many problems.
SouthRidge Greens Boulevard is not built to
accommodate traffic as a collector street, especially south
of the Hummel Lane -intersection. It is already inadequate
and our subdivision is not yet completed, with 93 remaining
lots to be developed.
We plan to submit our petition to the Planning Board
at this meeting, opposing the extenstion of SouthRidge
Greens Boulevard. We are requesting that each and every
resident of SouthRidge attend this meeting. Some will
speak to the various problems. We urge YOU to
attend ---numbers are important, and impressive. Your
presence is of utmost importance, to influence the vote of
the board members to be in our favor. We would like to
flood the Chamber room with SouthRidge residents.
See you there. Thank you:
Your Neighborhood Committee
and
Property Owners Board of Directors
.(E) The grades of the streets in SouthRidge are considerably steeper than
in most areas of the city --thus posing an,additional problem of safety, especially
on icy or wet slippery street conditions. Again, the hazard is increased with more
traffic.
(F). If the Paragon Point project is approved, SouthRidge Greens Boulevard
will be classed as a collector street. Our neighborhood has 30 home sites that must
back out onto the boulevard from their driveways. These backinq movements are not
:�?nsidered to be consistent with the operation of a collector. Due to curves and
hills on ':he Boulevard, great care must be taken when backing from one's driveway.
This situation can ,only deteriorate on a through street.
(G). Enforcement of speed limits is marginal at best. Adding to the
length of a dead end road, even on a temporary basis, will only encourage traffic to
move at a greater rate of speed. During development and construction of the new
first phase of the project, with all ttte utilities, streets, curb and gutter, etc.,
it will require a large volume of heavy equipment. In spite of developers efforts,
this equipment will undoubtedly use the Boulevard for the main part of. the upper
development. Trilby Road is not an improved street at this time, so most drivers
will elect not to drive that route, if a better route is available.
(H). From the standpoint of response time for all evergency vehicles, a
quicker route would be the use of Lemay Ave. to the =-otlth. Tri'h Road east, and
then north frnm Tri1Ly. Another- route could be simpi. !..a.. I and then
east on any new road of the development. Matt Dellich, consulting traffic engineer,
noted at the first Neighborhood meeting on this matter, that this route would be
quicker than using SouthRidge Greens Boulevard.
3. Perhaps in the traffic study, the street design of SouthRidge Blvd. is
sufficient to handle the anticipated traffic, but the study does not take into
consideration the effects on the neighborhood. Noise, pollution, traffic dangers,
vibration from construction vehicles, difficulty of enforcing speed limits, are not
discussed or addressed, but they have a difinite bearing on the quality of life in
SouthRidge.
4. SouthRidge Blvd. was built with a raised median to separate the traffic
lanes. The developer built this street, and homowneers paid for it when lots were
purchased. SouthRidge property owners contribute monthly dues to pey for the
-ma.i-n.ten•anc.e•,—up.k.eep-,—r-epa.ir-,--el-ec-tr_i.c and water needs for th,e_c.e.n-t.e.r i.sl.an.d.s.,—ar,,d
side area green belts of SouthRidge Greens Boulevard. The new developer to the
south will not contribute to the extra expense of the street, nor the monthly care.
He would however realize a great benefit by being able to utilize our beautiful
entryway to enhance his own project.
5. SouthRidge Greens Boulave.rd is an obvious de.,',! end c,.J pective
buyers in SouthRidge have had no reasonable way of knowing that the Blvd. might some
day be extended. The subdivision plat of record does not show the boulevard
extension. To change this to a through street now is doing a very great injustice to
the people of SouthRidge. The fact that this street extension is on the master
plan, doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be carried out in exactly the manner
it was once planned. This was acknowledged by Steve Olt of the Planning department.
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6. SECURITY is also important to us. We, in SouthRidge, have been very
fortunate, thus far, to have very few break-ins, and or vandalism, and we attribute
this to the fact that we have but ONE entrance and exit for normal traffic use. We
want to keep it that way.
?. The Fort Collins City Golf Board has gone on record as ,mnposinq the
ex` pr=inn of the Boule;a.rd. Sr-;thRidge Greens home:-!.•-r- ;hat=1pposition,
be -,;use of the detrimental effect on the E2th tee, and the 2,,r.,p,.,i dancers from the
boulevard proximity to the Iith green. Here again, the new developer gains at the
expense of others.
We are extremely concerned that Paragon Point, phase one, will be constructed,
using the proximity of the golf course and access through the boulevard as two of
its selling points. After completion of phase one, when "the cream is skimmed from
the top", the developer will be faced with the tremendous expense of bringing Trilby
Road up to city standards, and will simply choose to not finish the subdivision.
This will leave SouthRidge Greens in an unenviable position.
We offer these possible constructive suggestions to insure no extension of
SouthRidge Greedns Blvd. from the now existing dead -nd cul-de-sac:
1. Change the structure of the phases of the nm>j development:
(A). Est phase would be the entire portion of the new development east of
Fossil Creek, and would be accessed from Trilby Road. Trilby Road would be
completed from the south, at the beginning of the project. Homes beyond the 660'
distance from Trilby would be "Sprinkled", therfore eliminating the need for a 2nd
entrance or exit, for fire department reasons.
(B). As an alternative to "Sprinkling", and provide an access for
emergency vehicles, it is our suggestion to make a temr orary emerosncv access road
over the 12th tee area of the onlf cour=c, .rich kr=.b cwn h.: Ar r t, be used
only by emergency vehicles. There would be no damage to the golf -curse, or change
its play. This would still require that all streets serving the new development be
constructed in that development, thus having no adverse affect on SouthRidge
subdivision.
(2). Provide a main entrance access east from Lemay Ave, via a bridge over
Fissil Creek. At the neighborhood meeting the developer stated that it was too
expensive to construct such a bridge. We question pitting his economic savings
against the deminished quality of life for the residents of SouthRidge. This
approach, in conjunction with (1,A) above, would provide two accesses, the most
direct route, and the least "time response" for all emergency vehicles.
_ Any of these e.lternative solutions are feasible, an_d__th_us completely eliminate
SouthRidge subdivision contingency involvement.
Based on the Paragon Point subd.ivi,, phase an as r;r-=_enteci.
TO DOTE NO on the extension of SouthRidge Greens PecsiE,ard.
Thant: you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
Walter Gates
President,
SouthRidge Greens Homeowners Association
Byron D. Petersen
Chairman,
Ad HOC Committee for SouthRidge Greens
Homeowners Association
Golf Board Minutes
November 20, 1991
Page 2,
Jerry would like to wait and see how the system at City Park Nine wo out.
Suggested improvements to the City Park Nine Snack Bar include i lation of
a grill and walk-in cooler. A year ago the cost was estimated a ound $20,000.
Jerry expressed his priority interests as 1) constructio a"restroom at City
Park Nine; 2) paved golf car paths; and 3) light' the driving range at
Collindale.
Roger Sample thanked Jerry for reviewing the st, then asked Board members if
there was anything they felt should be added this list. Al Bednarz questioned
if it was feasible to do both phases of t irrigation project at City Park Nine
and Jerry responded it was ... City Par ine is currently using a port-a-john;
which people generally don't like t se. It will cost $7,000 to $8,000 just to
install a drinking fountain. omputerized registration system could run
$12,000 to $14,000. Mary Hodg ommented that when she plays at Loveland, golf
car paths take out mud spot and she would like to see paths eventually work
their way up the priority st. Regarding the project of lighting Collindale
driving range, the City uld share in revenue with Joe Nance. Jerry reported
if the Board chose li ing the driving range at Collindale we would have to go
through a plannin rocess to receive approval. Dan Preble expressed his
thoughts that we ould build a restroom at City Park Nine. Jim Greer commented
that he would a to at least see a water fountain.
After fur r discussion, it was moved by Roger Sample and seconded by Tom White
that t olf Board approve Phase 2 of the irrigation project at City Park Nine;
also proceed with construction of the restroom at City Park Nine as the 1992
d red Capital Projects. Any additional money required for the construction of
e City Park Nine restroom should come from the Contingency or other savings.
Motion carried unanimously (6:0)
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.� SouthRidge Road Extension Issue
_ The Board discussed the proposed land development to the south of SouthRidge Golf
Course. Terry Gilmore was present to discuss plans of a developer on bringing
SouthRidge Greens Boulevard south through Hole #12. Jerry reviewed the Plat of
SouthRidge Golf Course, along with the early conceptual plans. He has been aware
of a possible road extension since 1986. Terry said the developer wants
eventually to reach Trilby Road. The first filing has a development of only 30
lots. The SouthRidge homeowners' main concern is that houses will be developed
but the project will never be completed to Trilby Road. Terry felt this issue
would be of interest to the Golf Board, purely from aesthetics of the golf
course. Jerry reported that we could lose up to three tee -boxes with the road
planned through Hole #12, virtually eliminating all championship tees.
A question was raised by Roger Sample on what the Golf Board can actually do?
Jim Doyle questioned how the City could abandon a dedicated right-of-way? Jerry
said if the Golf Board takes any action, it will become part of the City's
record. The purpose of the Golf Board is to advise City Staff and City Council.
Al Bednarz commented that by placing a road through #12, that hole becomes a
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November 20, 1991
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short par 3 hole. Terry added his comment that this will cause losing a good
hole at SouthRidge. This item has been brought to the attention of the Golf
Board before it is taken to the Planning and Zoning Board on December 16. Dan
Preble is not sure what can be done, but personally would not like to see Hole
#12 cut off.
Tom White questioned whether this is a dead-end thing as it is not developed out
to Trilby Road? Trilby Road might be completed by the end of the decade. Mary
Hodge is in the frame of mind that all alternatives should be looked at, but is
not into hassling developers.
Discussion followed that there are not many feasible alternatives. The consensus
--- -� of the board members present is we can express our opinion that Hole #12 be kept
as is, and would hope that the City and the developer would explore all possible
options. However, with there already being a dedicated right-of-way, we may not
be able to do anything.
Review and Approval of 1992 Golf Board Work Plan
Jerry presented a draft copy of the 1992 Work Plan for the Golf IgTrd. Roger
Sample questioned whether the SouthRidge Golf Pro contract wo run through
January, 1993, or be on a month -to -month basis until a deci n is reached on
SouthRidge in February or March? Jerry said until January ' . Jerry suggested
moving the January 15 scheduled meeting as he will b out of town. It was
decided to reschedule the January meeting to Wednes , January 29, 1992. Al
Bednarz can see as a distinct possibility that i outhRidge is kept, a large
pgrtion of the Golf Board's time will be used the process of assimilating
.-SouthRidge into the total golf program. After scussion Al moved and Dan Preble
seconded to approve the 1992 Golf Board Wo Plan/Meeting Schedule as presented
by staff. Motion Carried (6:0)
Jerry updated Golf Board m
of SouthRidge Golf Course.
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$2.1 million.
ember n the most recent activities regarding the sale
S hRidge is still on the market place. One written
1 roup based in Ohio with an offer of $2.4 million.
me in too low, leaving the City with over $600,000
agreement has been signed with a broker, and there has
that maybe in December a group will submit a bid for
If there is arsale by February 29, 1992, Council will discuss keeping
SouthRidge/Rogerple
t that time the Golf Board will probably get back into the
d presentation of the Community Value of Golf.
inquired as to how the SouthRidge issue .should be presented? He
m "assimilation" should not be used in the Golf Division acquiring
SouthRidge Golf Course permanently. Jerry felt we will not do much
les issue is put to rest. At that time, Council may look at
sources.
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SouthRidge Greens
Homeowner's Association
Ft. Collins, Colorado
Attn: William Albrecht
Byron Peterson
Re: Fossil Ridge PUD
(ISC # 911050)
Dear SouthRidge-Greens Homeowners:
In accordance with our agreement, I have now completed a review of the Fossil Ridge PUD
Site Access Study, prepared by Mathew J. Delich, dated September 1991, and my own
independent evaluation of the traffic 'impacts associated with that development. The
following summarizes my work.
Background
The Fossil Ridge PUD is a development proposal to develop a 160-acre land parcel
immediately south of the SouthRidge Greens Golf Course and surrounding residential
community. The PUD would be a residential development consisting of approximately 138
single family dwelling units and 43 town houses. Most of the development area will remain
as open space centered around the Fossil Creek flood plain. The proposed PUD would be
developed in rive phases with the first four consisting of single family developments and
Phase b consisting of 43 town house units. Phases 1 and 4 would be situated on the east
edge of the development immediately west of the Union Pacific railroad tracks. These two
phases would contain approximately 66 single family dwelling units. Phases 2, 3, and 5 are
located on the western side of the PUD and would be accessed from Lemay Avenue.
Traffic Issues Relating To The PUD
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phases would contain appro m ately 66 single family dwelling uPhases 21 S. and 6 are
located on the western sidhe PUD and would be accessed fiemay Avenue.
Traffic Issues Relating To The PUD
The key traffic issue concerning the development of the Fossil Ridge PUD is the way in which
development Phases 1 and 4 are accessed. It is proposed that Phase 1, which consists of 30
dwelling units on the northeastern corner. of the PUD, be accessed by way of a southward
extension of SouthRidge Greens Boulevard through the SouthRidge Greens community. The
Phase 1 development is proposed to occur in 1992. There would be secondary emergency
access provided northward from Trilby Road, which would be an unpaved gravel roadway
with locked gates at Trilby Road to prevent general public access. Phase 4, immediately
south of Phase 1 along the'southeastern corner of the development, would be developed by
1995, with 36 single family dwelling unit& When Phase 4 is completed, it is proposed that
the access from Trilby Road be improved, in conjunction with the paving of Trilby Road itself
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between the railroad tracks and Lemay Avenue. At that time, there would be public travel
on the entire length of SouthRidge Greens Boulevard all the way from Lemay Avenue to
Trilby Road.
Other issues in this proposed development are the amount of traffic that would be imposed
on SouthRidge Greens Boulevard by the Fossil Ridge PUD and whether that street can
accommodate the additional traffic safely and with minimal impact. More detailed questions
are these:
• Is the existing SouthRidge Greens Boulevard built to collector standards?
• Would the traffic volumes on SouthRidge Greene Boulevard be of collector
standards magnitude?
• What traffic safety problems might there be associated with increased use of this
street?
• Is it appropriate design policy to front lots directly on to a collector street?
SouthRidge Greens Boulevard As A Collector Street
It is quite clear to me that Southi3idge Greens Boulevard ends as a collector street at
Hummel Lane. South of this intersection, there is no center median, the street is 36 feet
wide, and it has single family houses fronting on it. The curb and gutter construction
changes from vertical curbs to sloping, or mountable curbs. Furthermore, the Boulevard ends
in a cul-de-sac turnaround configuration just south of Greenridge Circle, and immediately
south of and adjacent to the cul-de-sac is the Golf Course. If the roadway were to continue
to the south, it would have to cut through this portion of the golf course, and two of the holes
would have to be redesigned.
North of Hummel Lane, and continuing west to Lemay, SouthRidge Greens Boulevard is
-definitely a_collector_street with_ a landscaped median dividing the travel lanes and no
fronting homes.
Traffic Volumes On SouthRidge Greens Boulevard
I have reviewed the traffic volume projections made by Mr. Delich. His estimates of traffic
generation are correct, and I believe, in general, the directional distribution that has been
assumed is correct also. In the initial Phase 1 development, all of the traffic generated by
the 30 homes of Fossil Ridge would be on SouthRidge Greens Boulevard. That would mean
approximately 300 additional vehicles per day over and above those on that street at the
buildout of the SouthRidge. Greens community. My estimate is that, without Fossil Ridge,
the traffic volumes on SouthRidge Greens Boulevard would be approximately 300 to 350
vehicles per day south of the entrance street to the Center Greene neighborhood, 700 to 750
vehicles per day north of that entrance, and about 750 vehicles per day at the intersection
with Hummel Lane. Traffic volumes on SouthRidge Greens Boulevard west of the St.
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Elizabeth Ann Seton church are likely to be in the range of about 3,000 to 3,500 vehicles per
day at buildout. According to city traffic counts they are about 1,500 vehicles per day now
east of the church access.
The impact of Fossil Ridge Phase 1 would be to add $00 vehicles per day to these volumes.
When the Phase 4 development is completed and an outlet to Trilby Road is provided, an
additional 200 to 250 vehicles per day would be added to SouthRidge Greens Boulevard.
Summary
SouthRidge Greens Boulevard south of Hummel Lane is very definitely a local street, as
shown in Figure 1. It is only 36 feet wide, has a combination curb/gutter and attached
sidewalk, houses fronting directly on it and has numerous driveways and minimal setbacks.
It certainly appears to me that the street was always intended to cul-de-sac, or terminate,
at Represent location, and if there was a thought to extend it further to the south to Trilby
Road, that intent is not apparent. The cul-de-sac at the south end of the Boulevard is of
permanent construction and the golf course continues across any possible street extension.
The real issue is whether the addition of up to 550 vehicle trips per day on the local street
portion of SouthRidge Greens Boulevard will become an intolerable situation. Most
transportation planners and engineers agree that 1,000 vehicles per day is the maximum
limit for the traffic carried on a local street, but this is a difficult issue for us. Whereas the
street can probably handle additional traffic in a safe manner, the additional traffic will
certainly detract from its desirability for those whose homes front on to it. Certainly the
level of traffic safety is deteriorated with increased traffic.
The major question concerning this development that must be answered by the City of Fort
Collins is not necessarily whether SouthRidge, Greens Boulevard should be extended to Trilby
Road, but rather, is that portion of the street between the Hummel Lane intersection and the
southern terminus of the Boulevard a collector street or a local street? Obviously, if
SouthRidge Greens Boulevard were to be extended in its present alignment southward across
the golf course to Trilby Road, it would fimetion as a collector street. The issue then
__ 'becdmes W"—that-portion of SouthRidge Greens Boulevard -south -of Hummel -constructed —
as a collector street, and if not should collator street status be forced upon it?
I believe that any traffic engineer analyzing the present configuration of SouthRidge Greens
Boulevard south of the Hummel Lane intersection would have to say that, without question,
it is a local residential street. It meets all of the tests for a local street. Furthermore, it
would be very difficult for anyone to conceive of this street serving a future function as a
through, collector street
I would concede that the additional amount of traffic that would be imposed upon this street
through the development of Fossil Ridge would be °minimal°, in terms of what is often
experienced on many other local streets Many jurisdictions throughout Colorado would
permit up to 1,000 vehicles per day on a local street and some would permit up to 1,500
vehicles per day. My estimate is that in the present SouthRidge Greens community, with
SouthRidge Greens Boulevard as a cul-de-sac street terminating at the golf course, there
would be about 750 to 800 vehicles per day on SouthRidge Greens Boulevard south of