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HomeMy WebLinkAboutKINGSTON WOODS PUD FINAL - 58 91C - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESPLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING MINUTES September 28, 1992 Gerry Horak, Council Liaison Tom Peterson, Staff Support Liaison The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at 6:33 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall West, 300 LaPorte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado. Board members present included: Chairman Bernie Strom, Vice Chairman Lloyd Walker, Jan Cottier, Joe Carroll, Jim Klataske, Laurie O'Dell and Rene Clements -Cooney. Staff members present included Planning Director Tom Peterson, Deputy City Attorney Paul Eckman, Sherry Albertson -Clark, Kirsten Whetstone, Steve Olt, Kerrie Ashbcck, Ted Shepard, Joe Frank, Mike Herzig, Peter Barnes and Georgiana Taylor. Identification of citizen participants is from verbal statements and not necessarily correct since none signed in. ELECTION OF OFFICERS Member O'Dell nominated Chairman Strom for the Chairman of the Board. Member Cottier seconded the motion. Motion passed 7-0. Member Cottier nominated Vice -Chairman Walker for Vice Chairman of the Board. Member Clements -Cooney seconded the motion. Motion passed 7-0. AGENDA REVIEW Tom Peterson reviewed the Consent and Discussion Agenda. The Consent Agenda included: Item 1 - Election of Officers; Item 2 - Minutes of the August 24 and August 31, 1992 Meetings; Item 3 - The Village at Southridge PUD - Final, #9-82AI; Item 4 - Kingston Woods PUD, 2nd Filing - Final, #58-91C; Item 5 - PZ92-12 Utility and Drainage Easement Vacation; Item 6 - PZ92-13 Utility and Drainage Easement Vacation (Continued until October 19, 1992 meeting); Item 7 - Timberline Court Apartments PUD - Preliminary, #32-83D (Continued until November 16, 1992 meeting); Item 8 - Timnath Pit Special Review - County Referral (Continued until October 19, 1992 meeting); Discussion Agenda - Item 9 - Amendment to the Sign Code for Neighborhood Commercial Areas, 038-92; Item 10 - PZ92-14 Natural Areas Policy Plan; Item 11 - Amigos at Shields PUD - Preliminary, 047-90A; Item 12 - Little Caesars PUD - Final, #28- 92A (Continued until October 19, 1992 meeting). Mr. Peterson stated those here for items, Solar Orientation Ordinance, Northeast Area Transportation Study, Glenmoor PUD, or Silver Oaks PUD, that these items would be continued until October 5, 1992 at 6:30 p.m. Item 4, Kingston Woods PUD, 2nd Filing - Final, #58-91C was pulled for discussion by Member Cottier. Member Carroll moved for approval of consent items 2, 5, 3. Member O'Dell seconded the motion. The motion was approved 7-0. 0 a Planning and Zoning Board Minutes September 28, 1992 Page 2 Member Cottier asked for an update with respect to the commercial properties willing to place a sign that they would be commercial. Ms. Whetstone, Project Planner, replied the three owners of the properties had been notified and that there was nothing new to report from them. There had been an agreement to put a note on the plat. Leo Schuester, Progressive Living Structures, owner of the property, stated as much as they had tried to work with the Planning Staff as far as designating that on the plat, as far as going out and posting the ground, he felt that it was not his responsibility to post someone else's land to it designate future uses. Member Cottier replied that the point of their condition last month was that they believed it was his responsibility to notify the purchasers of his lots that across the street would be commercial and would see if the Board felt that having that noted on the plat as well as the site plan and landscape plan was adequate. Mr. Schuester replied that he had no objection about it being posted, his objection was for this Planning Commission to tell him that he had to spend the money to do that. If the City or the Planning Commission wanted to do that, that was fine, but they were putting a restriction on this piece of property that he felt legally could not be put on it. Member O'Dell asked Deputy City Attorney Eckman for clarification on the issue. Mr. Eckman replied that he did think it would be legally impermissible for the Board to require this developer to post property that he does not own because he would have to trespass in order to do that and he did not recommend that the Board impose that kind of requirement. Their requirement needed to be based on some criteria of the Guidance System. Member O'Dell asked about noting it on the plat. Mr. Eckman replied apparently that was acceptable to the developer and it would give at least legal notice to all the property owners in the subdivision. From a legal perspective the notation on the plat was sufficient. Chairman Strom asked for public comment. There was none. Member Cottier moved for approval of Kingston Woods, Second Filing, Final. Member Carroll seconded the motion. Member Cottier hoped that having notice on the plat would safeguard them from alot of people complaining that they did not know what was across the street. The intent was that the single family project as proposed did not adequately buffer what might possibly happen across the street. She would prefer signs if the commercial property was willing. Planning and Zoning Board Minutes September 28, 1992 Page 3 The motion passed 6-1 with Member Walker voting in the negative. Deputy City Attorney Eckman left the meeting at 6:50 due to a conflict of interest on the next item and City Attorney Roy joined the meeting. AMENDMENT TO THE SIGN CODE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREAS, #38-92 Joe Frank gave the staff report, reviewed background and the process that lead up to the recommended ordinance. Chairman Strom asked for Board questions of Staff. There were none. Chairman Strom asked for public input. No one responded. Chairman Strom asked about the notation in their packets of the changes that had been made since the last review, one of which was logos on individual tenant spaces exceeding 45,000 s.f. in floor area would be allowed to be as large as 54" in height and asked what it had been changed from. Peter Barnes, Zoning Administrator replied the original proposal that came before the Planning and Zoning Board in June had a section in there that would have had the logo height being the same size as the letter height. After further evaluation it was determined that in looking at what was up around the community and determining what looked best, in many cases, the signs with more aesthetic value are where the logo was actually taller than the individual letters. What this did was allow the logo to be slightly larger than the individual letter sign itself. Chairman Strom asked for any examples of how large a 54" logo would be. Mr. Barnes showed some slides of the Safeway Store on Drake and showed the letters to be 4' in height, there was no logo with that sign, but the logos would be just slightly larger than the letters. Member Carroll moved to recommend approval to City Council adoption of the Amendments to the Sign Code for non-residential uses in residential neighborhood sign districts. Member Walker seconded the motion. Member O'Dell commented that she did not want it to appear that they did not care about this or have any comments, they did have a worksession and an extensive public hearing in June and at that time they made comments and the changes have been incorporated into this revised plan. Member Walker commended the staff work on this and the fact that no one was here to argue the point indicated that they had gone through a pretty thorough process and so tonight was a logical conclusion to a process of hearing a variety of opinions, and incorporating them.