HomeMy WebLinkAboutPINECONE PUD OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN - 60 91A - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTES• PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
April 27, 1992
Council Liaison: Gerry Horak
Staff Liaison: Tom Peterson
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board began at 6:35 p.m. in the Council
Chambers of City Hall West, 300 LaPorte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado. Board members
present included Chairman Bernie Strom, Vice -Chairman Lloyd Walker, Joe Carroll, Jim
Klataske, Laurie O'Dell, Jan Cottier, and Rene Clements -Cooney.
Staff members present included Planning Director Tom Peterson, Deputy City Attorney Paul
Fxkman, Sherry Albertson -Clark, Kirsten Whetstone, Steve Olt, Ted Shepard, Kerrie Ashbeck,
Mike Herzig, Rick Ensdorff, and Patti Schneeberger.
Mr. Peterson presented the Consent Agenda which consisted of: Item 1 - Minutes of the
March 23, 1992 meeting; Item 2 - Blevins Court PUD, Lot 9 - Final, Case #42-91B; Item
3 - New Creations Interiors PUD - Amended Final, Case #10-92; Item 4 - Warren Farms
Subdivision, Filing 2 - Preliminary and Final, Case #53-84H was pulled for discussion; Item
5 - Provincetowne PUD (Redeemer Lutheran Church) - Preliminary and Final, Case #73-
82M; Item 6 - Oakridge PUD, loth Fling - Preliminary and Final, Case #13-82AZ; Item
• 7 - Fort Collins Truck Sales PUD - Preliminary and Final, Case #11-92 was pulled for
discussion; Item 8 - Kingston Woods PUD - Final, Case #58-91A; Item 9 - Quail Hollow
Subdivision, 6th Fling - Final, Case #46-89G; Item 10 - Fort Collins Second and Harmony
at the Villages at Harmony West PUD, Lot One - Final, Case #3-90F; Item 11 - Potts PUD -
Preliminary, Case #6-92 was pulled for discussion; Item 12 - Granada Heights PUD -
Preliminary and Final, Case #7-92 was pulled for discussion; Item 13 - Laurie Subdivision
PUD, lst and 2nd Filings - Modification of Conditions of Approval, Case #44-89 E,F; Item
14 - Resolution PZ92-5 - Utility Easement Vacation; Item 15 - Resolution PZ92-6 - Utility
Easement Vacation; Item 16 - Fort Collins Housing Authority Subdivision Plat - Final, Case
#28-89B was pulled for discussion; Item 17 - Prospect Land Company Annexation and
Zoning, Case #16-92; Item 18 - Webster Second Annexation and Zoning, Case #21-92; Item
19 - LaPorte Plaza Rezoning and PUD - County Referral, Case #22-92 was continued to the
May meeting.
Mr. Peterson presented the Discussion Agenda which consisted of. Item 20 - Pinecone PUD -
Overall Development Plan, Case #60-91A and Pinecone PUD - Fort Collins High School -
Advisory Review, Case #60-91B; Item 21 - Colorado State University Sign; Item 22 -
Riverside Junction PUD - Preliminary and Final, Case #13-92.
Member Cottier pulled Item 5 - Provincetowne PUD (Redeemer Lutheran Church) - Preliminary
and Final, Case #73-82M.
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April 27, 1992
Page 15
Ms. Whetstone stated that the City of Fort Collins has made it a policy to subdivide existing
facilities, such as, fire stations, detention ponds, and other City buildings. In this case the
Housing Authority occupies the building that belongs to the City of Fort Collins, and if the
Housing Authority were to leave, the building would remain intact and the site would then be
turned back over to the Parks and Recreation Department to be used for some other use. It is
not untypical to have a City facility or structure sitting on a lot.
Member Carroll commented that the project basically gives a legal description of the real estate,
and that the site needs to be referred to by engineering standards. Hence, this site would just
be referred to as a lot.
Chairman Strom stated that this property is different than the Potts PUD in the sense that
developments were encroached around property and isolated that piece in the back end. This
lot fronts on a public street.
Member Carroll moved to approve the Fort Collins Housing Authority Subdivision Plat,
Final. Member Cottier seconded the motion. The motion to approve carried 7-0.
Chairman Strom recessed the meeting for five minutes and will reconvene the meeting with Item
#i20 Pinecone PUD Overall Development Plan. The Pinecone PUD Overall Development Plan
addresses property that wraps around the Fort Collins High School site, and that both of these
items would be addressed separately due to distinct ownership and authority on the projects.
Member Klataske stated that he has submitted a declaration of conflict -of -interest due to owning
property in the area and would be abstaining from the discussion.
PINECONE PUD, OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. Case ##6"1A
Ted Shepard gave a description of the proposed project recommending approval.
Mr. Eldon Ward, Cityscape Urban Design, stated the staff report representing the project was
put together very well. Mr. Ward felt that in planning the project, the unique mix of land uses,
the high school site, coordinating with CSU, and various private development interests have
come together to produce a very innovative approach to this site.
Member Walker asked what the limitations are to the comer commercial property and is there
a time limit on those restrictions?
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April 27, 1992
Page 16
Mr. Kirk Douglas, Representative to Poudre R-1 School District, explained that there was an
article in the covenants that restricts the negative land uses and encourages positive land uses.
Negative land uses are those that would detract from the educational purposes of the high school
project; such as, arcades, paraphernalia shops, tobacco stores, and any store that would sell
alcohol. The positive land uses are things that have educational orientation which would be
considered as computer software stores, bookstores, and uses of that nature. The Board of
Education has placed an umbrella on those covenants with a first right of refusal if in fact a land
use was to be determined in their discretion to be detrimental to the educational purposes of the
high school.
Member Walker asked what the time limit to the covenants are?
Mr. Douglas stated that no time limitation has been placed on the covenants. The covenants are
initially for a 25 year period and then they automatically extend for 5 year increments for
perpetuity until they are rescinded by then the current owners of the property, both Poudre R-1
and Timberline Partners.
Chairman Strom clarified that in order to rescind the covenants both partners must agree.
Mr. Douglas agreed with Chairman Strom's clarification.
Member Walker asked what the status is of the city park?
Mr. Ward stated that the development of the park was moving ahead and scheduled for closing
in the next couple of weeks.
Mr. Douglas stated that the Board of Education was acting upon an extension agreement which
extends the option contract on the park from April 30 to May 15. The City of Fort Collins,
Parks and Recreation Department has tendered a contract to purchase the property to the School
District and is currently under review.
Mr. Peterson stated that the contract is subject to the approval of City Council and that the
action has not taken place at this time.
Member Clements -Cooney asked for an elaboration of the details in the covenants on the
enforcement of school policy at the park and the proposed neighborhood commercial site.
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April 27, 1992
Page 17
Mr. Douglas stated the current covenants recorded against the property provide rights of
governments on the commercial property, the park, and school property; which allow the School
District to enforce any of its policies or codes of student conduct on any of the surrounding
properties regardless of ownership. It is currently pending and will be approved by the Board
of Education prior to the closing on the park. It basically would allow the School District the
privilege to enforce its rules and regulations. Specifically, if there continues to be a violation
of the law, it is the Police Department's responsibility for enforcing the law. If it is a matter
of school policy or rules that were violated, then the school has the option of enforcing them.
Mr. Paul Eckman stated the rights of governments may only be enforced against persons who
are enrolled in the school districts education program. The covenants continue for 20 years
instead of 25 years, unless they have been changed since we received this copy.
Chairman Strom asked if those covenants would also extend?
Mr. Eckman stated the covenants renew every year automatically unless terminated by a
unanimous vote of the then owners.
Chairman Strom asked the applicant to address the bicycle/pedestrian access in the Overall
Development Plan area.
Mr. Ward stated that the accesses have been planned on the Timberline Partnership property
which consists of a combination of on -street bike lanes, a detached bike trail along Timberline,
in the drainage areas, and into the pedestrian system, which is a part of the school concept and
surrounding neighborhoods.
One of the areas the Transportation Department reviewed, was how the existing school
population arrived and departed from the current school, what are the means of getting them to
the proposed high school, and how does this dovetail into the current master plans, the bikeway
and open space master plan? Generally, because of the obstruction of the Union Pacific Railroad
Tracks there are limits in getting trail connections over to Timberline. There is an underpass
at Spring Creek near Edora Park that is in the planning process and at grade crossing at
Drake/Horsetooth looking at a possibility of building another underpass that would connect
Stover, Swallow, Centennial, and drainage ways under the railroad track and come out at
Vermont which is the center of the Pinecone frontage on Timberline.
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April 27, 1992
Page 18
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Tom Harding, resident of Sunstone, wanted to congratulate Staff and the Board in taking
into account what kids tend to do in stores. Mr. Harding stated that he managed a 7-eleven
across the street from Lincoln High School in Denver. He felt that the amount of rip-off that
would occur in the store was one of the highest in that City and that was only mitigated by the
fact that the store had the highest take from the pinball machines than any other store in the
area. The only way one could handle that type of situation would be in taking into account the
kinds of businesses one places in the area. He felt that was achieved in this project, but that the
only thing better would be not to build a commercial area right there and that is not possible.
Chairman Strom closed the public input portion of the meeting at this time.
Member Clements -Cooney wanted to know why the 68 acres high school site was shown for
informational purposes only and not part of the Overall Development Plan?
Mr. Shepard felt the best reason was at the request of the Applicant, that 68 acres under separate
ownership to Poudre R-1 would not become a signature party to the Overall Development Plan
Document. For the past several months both parties were involved in planning in order to
achieve good comprehensive planning on this piece of ground.
Member Cottier felt it was a little awkward to consider an Overall Development Plan with a big
hole in the middle of the project, but needed to know what the different phasing of parcels in
the Overall Development Plan were going to be?
Mr. Ward explained that phasing would be coming from two different directions. There is a
preliminary plan for the apartment/convenience center site that is in process right now and
scheduled for the May meeting. A first phase single family project, that is parcel G and extends
part way into parcel H, is being put together for preliminary submittal for the June meeting.
The high school is on a 1995 opening schedule and the best estimate at this time for the
development of the commercial corner is within 3-5 years from now.
Chairman Strom wanted a clarification on whether the uses of the covenants apply to the small
commercial piece located north the project?
Mr. Ward stated that the covenants currently in place do not cover that piece. The proposal to
extend to the entire 238 acres would give the school district the authority but not the complete
obligation.
Member O'Dell asked that with the number of potential housing units in that area, has the school
district looked into putting a elementary school in that area?
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April 27, 1992
Page 19
Mr. Ward stated that the school district is always thinking of new school sites, but there was no
specific discussion related to an elementary school site in that area.
Mr. Keith Dixon stated that there was not an elementary school planned for that site. Linton
Elementary is directly south of this location and would be used for residents of the area.
Member O'Dell stated that 500 plus housing units were planned for this area and it seemed to
her that Linton was fairly full and how does one accommodate this many more homes and
students?
Mr. Dixon explained that a new elementary school site was being reviewed to take place
sometime after 1995, but it will be farther south and east.
Member O'Dell wanted to know if any other signals or other restrictions on turning movements
along Timberline or Horsetooth Road were planned other than the one on Vermont?
Mr. Ward replied that the restrictions were not so much the result of single family, but that most
of the restrictions were due to the proposed future of Timberline as a major arterial. An access
point sets directly opposite Danfield which is not proposed to be signalized. This access would
allow for left turns in and as Timberline is increased to a major arterial, that access would
probably no longer be practical. Access into the northerly part of the commercial site would
have a left -in, right -in, and right -out with raised medians. The access from Horsetooth into the
commercial area would be strictly right-in/right-out. Full movement would occur into the main
high school parking lot and onto the main street serving the residential area. In the future,
Mr. Ward anticipates one other full movement access point into the northerly part of the site;
however, the exact location of it has not received as much attention as the other access points.
Mr. Ward stated he did not know of any other signals proposed for that area.
Member O'Dell felt that those types of things should be phased in with the development of the
high school and residential areas.
Member Walker asked if the convenience center in parcel D was going to be a standard 50,000
square foot center?
Mr. Ward explained that a convenience store and a small amount of retail lease space is
proposed for that site. The total non-residential square footage would be about 6,000 square
feet.
Member Walker asked that if the covenants that apply to parcel A, did not apply to the retail
space and parcel D?
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April 27, 1992
Page 20
Mr. Ward stated that was correct.
Member Walker did not understand why they do not apply, because eventually that would be
the place where the arcades and liquor stores would go.
Mr. Ward replied they had reviewed the area and asked themselves how far does one go in
restricting or penalizing common ownership. There are convenience uses approved on the
property to the south and numerous other opportunities for convenience type usage along
Timberline Road.
Chairman Strom stated that the traffic report indicated that there would be some E and F levels
of service at certain intersections and was anything being done to mitigate those levels of
service?
Mr. Rick Ensdorff, Transportation Department, asked if there was a specific location he had in
mind?
Chairman Strom stated that Intersection #1 was the particular one he had in mind.
Mr. Ensdorff stated that most left turns in Fort Collins off of arterial streets are going to
experience high levels of delay. Right turns would operate reasonably well with an acceptable
level of traffic. The Transportation Department is trying to limit the number of left turns or
have fewer non -controlled intersections on arterial streets. It is expected that left turns off of
an arterial street would occur, but that the department was trying to limit the opportunities in
those situations.
Chairman Strom asked if the traffic input studies are an accumulative analysis of what the
Transportation Department expects to happen from the development?
Mr. Ensdorff stated that was an accurate assumption and that the department provides a traffic
consultant with background data in both existing and future projections in order to determine the
short and long-term outcome of traffic in that area.
Chairman Strom replied that essentially the levels of service for the peak hours are acceptable
to the Staff?
Mr. Ensdorff stated that they are acceptable.
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April 27, 1992
Page 21
Member Walker moved to approve Pinecone PUD, Overall Development Plan. He felt that
there were several innovative ideas with respect to this project and was very pleased with
the cooperation between the Developers and the School District; which presents unique
opportunities to provide this type of project that would meet a variety of needs in a creative
way. Member O'Dell seconded the motion.
Member Carroll commented on the Overall Development Plan fitting the mixed nature of the
area. He felt that people like to cluster as close as possible to an elementary school verses a
high school and by locating the high school in this particular area toward the southwest corner
of this development it allows for the buffering of the athletic fields and the city park to the east.
He felt that the roads were innovatively designed, so as not to have straight collector streets.
He also encourage the Board and the Administration to extending the covenants to the
surrounding areas.
Chairman Strom replied that he was looking forward to seeing the development of the
pedestrian/bikeway system in that area and was encouraged to see that planning of that nature
was occurring at this early stage.
The motion to approve carried 6-0.
PINECONE PUD, FORT COLLINS HIGH SCHOOL, Advisory Review. Case #60-91B
Chairman Strom asked that a brief summary be presented to the Board in regard to what type
of authority they might have on this issue.
Mr. Eckman stated the authority of the Board was limited to state statutes regarding this type
of issue. The reason this project was not listed in the Overall Development Plan was because
the School District wanted to make clear that there was not any implication this project would
come through as a Planned Unit Development or subject to the City's zoning ordinances. The
Planning and Zoning Board's authority is based on statute 22-32-124, which requires the Board
of Education to submit a site development plan for review and comment to the Planning and
Zoning Board prior to construction of any structure or building. The Planning and Zoning
Board may also request a public hearing before the Board of Education relating to the proposed
site development plan, but nothing in the statute shall be construed to limit the authority of the
Board of Education to finally determine the location of public schools within the district and
erect any necessary buildings and structures. Basically, the statute authorizes you to review the
site development plan and make comments on it.
Ted Shepard gave a description of the proposed project recommending approval.