HomeMy WebLinkAboutSTONERIDGE PUD OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN JUNE 29 1992 P AND Z BOARD HEARING - 21 92B - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESPLANNING AND ZONING BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
June 29, 1992
Gerry Horak, Council Liaison
Tom Peterson, Staff Support Liaison
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at 6:35 p.m. in the Council
Chambers of City Hall West, 300 LaPorte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado. Board members present
included: Vice Chairman Lloyd Walker, Jan Cottier, Joe Carroll, Laurie O'Dell and Rene Clements -
Cooney. Chairman Strom and Member Klataske were absent.
Staff members present included Planning Director Tom Peterson, Deputy City Attorney Paul Eckman,
Kerrie Ashbeck, Ted Shepard and Georgiana Taylor.
(Identification of citizen participants is from verbal statements and not necessarily correct since none
signed in.)
AGENDA REVIEW
Mr. Peterson reviewed the Discussion Agenda. The Discussion Agenda included: Item 1 -
Oak/Cottonwood Farm - Amended Overall Development Plan, #54-87F; Item 2 - Oak/Cottonwood
Farm, Upper Meadows at Miramont - Preliminary PUD, #54-87G; Item 3 - Stoneridge PUD -
Overall Development Plan, #21-92B; Item 4 - Stoneridge PUD, 1st Filing - Preliminary PUD, #21-
92C; Item 5 - Dakota Ridge PUD, 1st Fling - Preliminary PUD, #60-91D.
OAK/COTTONWOOD FARM - AMENDED OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN #54-87F
OAK/COTTONWOOD FARM, UPPER MEADOWS AT MIRAMONT - PRELIMINARY PUD
#54-87G
Mr. Shepard gave the Staff Report on the Overall Development Plan recommending approval with the
condition that if the development of Parcel S results in evaluation by the Auto Related and Roadside
Commercial Point Chart of the Land Development Guidance System..
sv tem. then the design guidelines found
in the Neighborhood Convenience Shopping Center: Design Guidelines. Policies and Criteria (an element
of the City's Comprehensive Plan) shall be the pertinent valuative criteria in order to promote the desired
level of site, landscape, and architectural quality.
Mr. Shepard also gave the Staff Report on the Upper Meadows at Miramont, Preliminary, recommending
approval with the condition that, at the time of Final, for only 14 lots necessary to reach 65%
compliance, the applicant shall provide additional techniques to accomplish the intent of the Solar
Orientation Ordinance. Such techniques may include, but are not limited to, maximizing glazing on the
southern exposure, placing garages on the north side of the structure, or siting the structure on the lot
so that the home itself is within 30 degrees of a true east -west line. Such techniques shall be
demonstrated on the Final P.U.D.
Mr. Jim Knight, a resident of Fossil Creek Meadows immediately adjacent to the property, asked about
the change in density being proposed.
Mr. Shepard replied there were a variety of parcels that had some subtle changes in density. Overall in
the entire 271 acres there was an approximate reduction of 242 dwelling units from the 1989 plan which
was the plan of record. There was about a 66 acre differential in multi -family and that amount of multi-
family was being reduced out of the 1992 amendment. The applicant was here tonight and could give
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reasons, such as Mail Creek, the lay of the land with respect to drainage, then they should grant a
variance because it did not meet it. He had a little problem dealing with it did not meet it but, lets do
some design things. Personally, he thought that would be awfully difficult to administer and he did not
want to get into the nit -picky details of doing that, he thought either they did it or they did not and they
had a good reason for it. His feeling on this one was that he was reasonably convinced of the hardships
that had been stated here. He tended to agree somewhat with Mr. Knight, they could do some different
things here, although it was a close call and he guessed that was what they were up here for was to make
that call and he was comfortable with granting a variance because of what are hardships. They grant
variances on hardships for a variety of things. He thought the Solar Ordinance, things they were trying
to feel their way through it. It was probably more complicated than some, because they had all these
conflicting issues of drainage, of slopes, of street lay outs and so forth. He guessed as far as guidance
to the Staff, they needed to focus this on land issues and not get into design issues.
Member Clements -Cooney moved approval of Upper Meadow at Miramont, Preliminary PUD with
the following variance to absolute criterion kl regarding minimum density, and k2 the variance to
requirements for solar orientation, because of exceptional topographical conditions peculiar to site
Mail Creek Ditch, hardship would be caused to the subdivider by the strict application of the solar
orientation ordinance. Because of exceptional difficulties regarding the access alignment of
Boardwalk Drive and 90 degree intersections with local streets and Boardwalk Drive, hardship
would be caused to the subdivider by the strict application of the solar ordinance, and C because
of the incorporation of the design features that meet other city policies and objectives the plan is
equal to or better than a plan that has met the 65% requirement.
Member Cottier seconded the motion.
The motion was approved 5-0.
NERIDGE P.U.D.. OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, #21-92b
Mr. Shepard gave the Staff report stating they had gotten their packet tonight, that reflected and
administrative change to the Pinecone ODP that they reviewed back in April which showed lightly dotted
lines as a potential future connection. That was now upgraded to a full blown local street connection so
they gave you a PMT of that reduction that showed that they were still coordinating Stoneridge PUD with
Pinecone PUD for vehicular and pedestrian bicycle connections. There was also another item that was
included in their packet that asked for a condition on the approval of Stoneridge PUD and the next
subsequent item that the second reading was to take place by City Council on July 7th for the Webster
Farm Annexation. That annexation was scheduled to take place at the second reading in June, but due
to a cancellation of the City Council meeting that had not occurred yet, so that would take place the first
Tuesday in July, which was July 7. Staff saw that as a housekeeping issue, a minor issue, but wanted
to bring that to their attention.
Staff was recommending approval of the Stoneridge Overall Development Plan.
Vice Chairman Walker asked if they needed to take any action on that?
Mr. Shepard replied yes. He believed they did need to enter that into the record
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Mr. Shepard also gave the Staff report of Stoneridge PUD, 1st filing, Preliminary PUD recommending
approval with the following condition:
At the time of final, for only eight lots necessary to reach 65% compliance, the applicant shall
provide additional techniques to accomplish the intent of the Solar Orientation Ordinance. Such
techniques may include, but are not limited to, maximizing glazing on the southern exposure,
placing garages on the north side of the structure, or sighting the structure on the lot so that the
house itself is within 30 degrees of a true east -west line. Such techniques shall be demonstrated
on the Final PUD.
Mr. Shepard stated their also a variance for the minimum density on a gross acreage basis for filing one
of Stoneridge.
Member Cottier asked for a clarification, the preliminary information presented by the applicant on the
first filing lists a density of 3.01 so she was just asking for clarification of who was right.
Mr. Shepard replied they were conservative, they took their information off the preliminary subdivision
plat that was prepared by the consulting engineer. Sometimes these things change a little bit depending
on the survey. They see it as being below 3 dwelling units per acre and went through the various
exercise.
Les Kaplan, representing the Kaplan Company, stated they were the applicant for this project and also
the developer. He wanted to introduce the team that worked on this project. Frank Vaught with Vaught
and Frye, and Stan Myers with RBD Engineering who were both here this evening, and Grant Reid with
Reid Design who couldn't make it this evening.
He wanted to make a couple of comments on the Overall Development Plan. It was 92 acres, the major
conditions and constraints that they had to work under was to do first of all, with the contiguous
development. There was a development Master Plan, an Overall Development Plan just north of this
project, the Pinecone PUD which was single family. The Pinecone development also wraps with the
ODP just west of them and they would be looking at that this evening as Dakota Ridge and immediately
south of the use was the English Ranch PUD. So they were bordered on three sides by single family and
that had a very definite impact in terms of their decision as to the types of land uses on this project. The
other major design constraint that they had was the widening of Horsetooth Road with 100 foot right of
way and the fact that Caribou Drive in Fox Meadows needed to be extended north and Kingsley Drive
had to be extended north.
The drainage on the project on the property basically ran to the northeast which was another factor
involved with the project. Also, they were requested by Staff to have a street connection to the north and
also a major pedestrian bicycle trail which was requested of them to extend to the north. It also ran on
the west side of Caribou Drive to Linton Elementary School. So, those were basically the factors that
they had to take into account. The objectives that they had in the project was to do something which was
more of an upper end, lower density mixed use PUD with a recreation area that was placed at that
location which would be built in subsequent phases.
The first phase of the project consisted of the single family area which arrived from two points of access,
one from Caribou Drive extended and the other from Kingsley and also a patio home area. When looking
at the ODP he would just like to point out that one of the significant design constraints that they had in
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working with this project that being the fact that the property line to the west was very close to Caribou
Drive extended north. This dimension here was a little more than 200 feet. That created a linear tract
of ground a north/south rectangular shaped piece of ground that they had to contend with and that would
come up later again when they saw the preliminary plan as a basis for the variance that they were asking
to the Solar Ordinance.
PUBLIC INPUT
None.
Vice Chairman Walker had a question on the recreation complex, what were they talking about there.
Was that going to be sort of a private homeowners park or what have you, and what size was it going
to be. What would the nature be as far as the facilities?
Mr. Kaplan replied the nature of it at this point and of course it was very conceptual. It would be
approximately an acre in size and it would consist of a swimming pool and a changing room area. He
would just like to bring up that in discussing it at this point, he was not committing to it. This was
something which was a conceptual part of the ODP. He intend to do something at this location but it
would be decided as the project evolves. He was setting the ground aside right now and incorporating
it in the overall position of land uses and circulation and making sure there was an area for it.
Vice Chairman Walker asked Mr. Shepard how did they need to phrase this issue you've mentioned about
the 7/7 council meeting. What was his suggestion there exactly. What wording did they have to bring
into this issue.
Ted Shepard suggested that they make the motion subject to the condition that was outlined in their
memo. He could read it if they like.
Vice Chairman Walker replied please do that.
Ted Shepard read that the final approval of Stoneridge ODP was conditioned on passage on second
reading by City Council for the Webster Farm second annexation ordinance 65-92.
Vice Chairman Walker asked what was the rationale behind that?
Ted Shepard replied the rationale was that through no fault of the applicant, who was on schedule for a
June 2 reading, the meeting was canceled by City Council. Staff was taking comfort in the fact that the
Planning and Zoning Board recommended that the property be annexed, that the City Council had acted
on first reading with a favorable vote that it would be annexed. That, consistent with those two public
actions, saw no logistical problem in that we anticipate that the third action which would be the second
reading to also pass. The annexation was contiguous and met the policies of the Intergovernmental
Agreement and so we see it more as a technical housekeeping measure that meets the intent. However,
due to a scheduling conflict the second reading did not occur due prior to this evening.
Tom Peterson added that if the City Council did not act favorably upon this second reading the ordinance
in this approval would be null and void.
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Member O'Dell moved approval of the Stoneridge PUD Overall Development Plan with the
condition that final approval of Stoneridge ODP is conditioned on passage of second reading by City
Council for the Webster Farm Second Annexation.
Member Cottier seconded the motion.
The motion was approved 5-0.
STONERIDGE PUD, FIRST FILING. PRELIMINARY. #21-92C
Mr. Shepard read the Staff Report for Stoneridge PUD, 1st filing, Preliminary PUD recommending
approval with the following condition:
At the time of final, for only eight lots necessary to reach 65% compliance, the applicant shall
provide additional techniques to accomplish the intent of the Solar Orientation Ordinance. Such
techniques may include, but are not limited to, maximizing glazing on the southern exposure,
placing garages on the north side of the structure, or sighting the structure on the lot so that the
house itself is within 30 degrees of a true east -west line. Such techniques shall be demonstrated
on the Final PUD.
Mr. Shepard stated their also a variance for the minimum density on a gross acreage basis for filing one
of Stoneridge.
Vice Chairman Walker asked since in the applicati(n as it was mentioned, they had the density of just
over 3 units per acre. Did that negate the need for any variance on that then. What number were we
working from.
Mr. Shepard replied he thought at the preliminary stage the variance was still appropriate. That way we
were not searching for a moving target and it would remove all doubt that this target was close but it did
not technically meet on a gross acreage basis for this particular filing of 3 dwellings per acre.
Mr. Kaplan stated what he would like to do first was kind of walk the Board through the project and take
a couple of minutes to do that, then a couple of minutes for the variances.
He pointed out that the main entrance of the project was at the intersection of Horsetooth and Caribou
Drive. At the intersection, there would be two ponds. There was a landscaped median which was 14
feet wide. They have a bike trail at this location which was 8 feet wide which went through the
landscaped area. During the first phase, they would continue north and intersect with the bike trail
system which was part of the Pinecone PUD. There were 26 patio homes. They were configured such
that there would be only one curb cut intersection with Caribou Drive. There were 42 single family lots.
The average lot size was approximately 9000 square feet. One of the strong design emphasis was the
green belt area which would be most visible along Horsetooth Road. They have in this area,
approximately 2 acres of green belt. Horsetooth Road was widened to a 100 foot right of way. They
had a five foot sidewalk along Horsetooth Road with extensive landscaping.
The two variances, the first variance had to due with the 3 dwellings per acre minimum. On the plat they
were showing the gross acreage as being 23.8 acres which was different that what they had here in their
memo. At 68 units that was an overall density based on the gross acreage of 2.85 units per acre. They