HomeMy WebLinkAboutFOSSIL CREEK ESTATES PUD PRELIMINARY - 50 92D - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGSUMMARY
The following are QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, and RESPONSES expressed at
a Neighborhood Meeting for Fossil Creek Estates Annexation and
Planned Unit Development (PUD). The applicant proposes 131 single
family lots on 42.66 acres, located west of Shields Street and
approximately 1 mile south of Harmony Road. The property is
currently in the County. The recommended zoning is rlp, Low
Density Planned Residential with a Planned Unit Development
condition. The proposal would therefore be reviewed as a Planned
Unit Development, and must meet the criteria of the -Land
Development Guidance System.
MEETING PLACE:
MEETING DATE:
MEETING TIME:
CITY PLANNER:
McGraw Elementary School
September 1, 1993
7:00 p.m.
Kirsten Whetstone
Note: All responses are by the applicant or consultant unless
specified:
COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS
1. our major concern is with the proposed density. Three
dwelling units per acre is not compatible with the surrounding
area, which includes the large lots at the Ridge, Scenic
Knolls, Applewood Estates, and Clarendon Hills. There is also
a large rural property to the south of this property.
2. I want to comment on the density as well. The 3 DU/acre
should not be a given. We would like to be able to influence
the decision.
3. Are you doing a study to determine the impacts of high density
housing on the open space? I am concerned about impacts on
wildlife in the area. I have heard that there will be a
raptor viewing area to the west of this property. What
impacts will housing have and will you be providing any buffer
areas between the houses and the open space?
We will consult with the Natural Resources Department to see what
they will require in terms of a study and what information they may
already have on impacts to wildlife as a result of housing
developments. The City does not consider 3 DU/acre as high
density, but rather as a minimum for low density residential
development. The City is acquiring some additional land south of
the open space area, which may be for a buffer area. Some of the
open space area •gill act as a buffer. This is a very large open
space area.
4. Are there any wetlands on the site? What are you proposing to
do with them?
Yes, there are wetlands. We will have them surveyed and will
attempt to include these areas in open space tracts rather than on
lots. We will work with the Natural Resources Department to design
our project around the wetlands and provide mitigation if
necessary.
5. Will Shields Street be widened with this project? Will
improvements include sidewalks?
Yes, we will be obligated for improvements to Shields Street. The
Engineering Department will determine whether the improvements are
built with this project, or built with a certain number of lots, or
whether we would pay for the improvements and the City would build
it at a later date as part of a capital improvement project.
Improvements would include a 5' detached walk.
6. Will the District water line be connected from Taft Hill to
Shields Street? What will that do to our water service and
pressure?
Yes, that would be done with this development. Your water service
would not change, you would still be served by the District, but
the pressure should improve over what it is now.
7. The proposed entrance to this project will be a safety issue.
The hill, entrance, and intersection of Fossil Creek Drive and
Shields Street is a dangerous situation now, it will only be
worse with more traffic.
Improvements to Shields Street as a result of this development
would have to meet the City's design standards for an arterial
street. The City will look at site distances, turn lanes, decel
lanes, etc. We are having a traffic study done to look at these
issues. The improvements should make the situation better.
8. Soils in the area are difficult. There is high ground water
as well.
9. There is evidence of ground settlement in the area and
swelling soils are a problem. Will you do a soils and
groundwater study to look at this problem?. Will you require
engineered foundations and de -watering systems?
We are aware of the high water table and expansive soils. We will
be submitting a soils report with our application. We will also
require engineered foundations, sub -drains for de -watering, and
other engineering solutions. We will have to meet City standards
for construction.
10. I want to comment again on the wetlands and wildlife areas and
want to make sure that the impacts on these areas are studied.
We will meet with the Natural Resources Department to see how to
address these concerns.
11. Will these be comparable houses to our own? What price. range
are you proposing? Will these be custom homes or tract houses
like those in the upper part of Clarendon Hills? What sort of
widths are you proposing? The houses in Scenic Knolls and
Applewood Estates have been selling in the $500,000 range. We
are concerned about our property values with housing that
would not be comparable.
We have two product lines for the two general lot sizes. The
smaller lots, more to the interior of the development, would be for
the 65'-75' widths at $130,000 to $175,000. The.larger lots, along
Shields Street and the open space area, would be for the 80' to 90'
widths at the mid $200,000. (Showed some slides of the two product
lines). We are proposing a 50-50 mix of product lines.
12. Is Fossil Creek Drive planned to extend east to College Avenue
someday? Would it be an arterial street like Shields or
Harmony Road and would the proposed street in this development
be conducive to an arterial street? It looks like it is not
straight enough or wide enough.
The Street Master Plan does not show Fossil Creek extending east
or west from Shields Street as an arterial street. As far as I
know there are no plans to connect Shields and College by way of
Fossil Creek Drive. Fossil Creek Drive in our development would be
designed as a local street, although the divided median near
Shields would make it wider. We are required to provide the median
to satisfy the Fire Department's access concerns. We will address
the issue of connecting Shields Street and Taft Hill Road in our
traffic study. The City is looking for a location for a collector
type street in this area, but it would.probably occur further to
the south.
13. What percentage of your site would be open space?
We haven't calculated the exact figure, but the amount that would
be in open space tracts would be about 10%.
14. Are you providing an access easement along the irrigation
ditch, the Trilby lateral? How wide would this be? Would
fences be allowed along the ditch? Access to both sides of
the ditch would be helpful from a maintenance perspective,
especially when the ditch is burned out of tumbleweeds, etc.
Yes, we are showing a 15' access easement for maintenance of the
ditch and for pedestrian access along the ditch, if that is wide
enough. We are also showing pedestrian connections to the City
open space areas through our development. We would anticipate that
easement would be an all weather sort of surface, not paved, but
surfaced for mountain bikes and horses. The south side of the
ditch is not on our property so I assume that access is already in
place. Fencing would be open type, three rail fencing throughout
the development. The only solid, privacy. fencing allowed, would be
around patio areas close to the house.
15. Construction debris is a real problem and can interfere with
the operation of the ditch. This debris can really be a
maintenance problem. What do you propose to do about this?
We will look into the possibility of incorporating, something in the
contracts with builders, contractors, etc. to address this. We
would want to be able to enforce some kind of regulations on.
construction debris.
16. Will these be custom homes? It doesn't seem like they could
be custom at those prices. I am concerned about the houses
all looking the same, like the upper part of Clarendon Hills.
All of the houses should be different.
We will have a selection of models, from several different
builders.
17. I am very concerned about the height and architectural
character of the houses. I don't want to see the situation at
Clarendon Hills with the tall 3 story house, the. one with the
walk out basement and two full floors above it, right on the
hill on Shields Street. If these houses are tall they will
block the -views of the foothills.
We will have an architectural review board or committee which will
review all of the plans. We will look at the possibility of
writing some architectural controls to prevent the Clarendon
situation from happening on this side of Shields Street. We would
like to see some height, architectural, landscaping, screening,
etc. controls so that the houses will match the topography of the
area.
18. I don't want the houses to all look a like. Watch the roof
lines, 3 story elevations, heights on the hill, materials,
etc.
We would be glad to meet again with anyone who is interested, to
talk further about architectural ideas, including landscape
mitigation measures that can be required, such as planting
evergreen trees to screen walls, etc.
19. The annual ditch burning maintenance program will be a concern
to future home owners. There can be a lot of smoke and there
will be increased conflicts. This is not the only ditch in
the area that is burned.
20. Have you looked into liability issues with the ditch? Who's
liability is it? What about kids building dams and disturbing
the ditch. What about the safety issue of a ditch running
behind these homes?
We will look into these concerns.
21. Mulches used adjacent to the ditch should be rock or other
non -burnable type materials.
22. Are the restrictions on ditch maintenance, such as burning,
the same in the City and the County?
We will look into this. The ditch is for the most part on the
property to the south and would therefore remain in the County.
Although, the ditch does encroach in a few places on the property
which would be annexed.
23. Could the ditch be put in a pipe? What would be the
advantages and disadvantages of this?
We will look into this.
24. The design of ditches through the Ridge PUD ate a good
example. You should look at how the Ridge has treated the
ditches. They have been very cooperative and maintenance has
not been a problem there. You should talk to more people
about this issue and get more information.
We will take a look at the ditches in the Ridge. Maybe you could
suggest some names of people we could talk to who have experience
with ditches, maintenance, burning, and housing developments. We
would definitely like to have more information.
25. You will need to spell out to future owners, that the ditch
has precedence in this area. The developer and owners need to
fit in to the existing situation, in terms of lots,
landscaping, and on -going operation and maintenance of the
ditch. This development can not interfere with operation of
the ditch.
26. The low area on Shields Street, at the intersection of Shields
and Fossil Creek, is dangerous. In the winter there are a
number of wrecks at this location. Will this area be
improved?
We will be designing and constructing Shields Street, in that
location, according to City standards for an arterial street. The
existing conditions probably do not meet the standards.
27. The area at the top of the hill, at your south property line
on Shields, is also dangerous. You need to look at widening
this area, south of your property, so there is a smooth
transition from 4 lanes back to 2 lanes.
28. My concerns are with the driveway south of your property on
the west side of Shields. Would the widening impact the
driveway? It could be right in the middle of the taper area.
All existing driveways will be considered in the design of Shields
Street widening. It is our hope that we could improve the
situation on Shields.
.29. We would be very interested in having input into the
architecture, materials, roofing, etc.
We could schedule another meeting to discuss the architectural
requirements, covenants, restrictions, etc. if you would be
interested. We will use the sign-up sheet from tonight's meeting
to contact people who are interested in a second meeting.
30. We can give you some other names of people we know who would
be interested in that meeting.
31. Do you know if the Parks Department is planning to build a
parking lot or trail head for the open space area off of
Shields Street?,
We can check into this. At this time I believe the City is talking
about a trail head off of Taft Hill Road.
32. The walking distance to schools has increased for Junior High
School students. The Jr. High in this area is straight north
of this property, about 1 and 1/2 miles. Are you planning to
construct a trail to facilitate pedestrians? I have concerns
about the children walking to school along the arterial
street.
I 'am not sure at this time what the City is planning as far as
trails through the open space area. We will be providing
connections to the open space as well as constructing a 5' detached
sidewalk on Shields Street and sidewalks throughout the
development.
33. Are there any plans for new schools in this area? The
existing schools are over -crowded.
Staff: The School District will be sent a copy of the population
projections for this development. I am not aware of any new
schools planned for this area, but will look into this matter.
34. Where is the park planned for this area?
We will have to contact the Parks Department to find out if there
are any parks planned for this area.
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