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1966 13th Street, Suite 270, Boulder, Colorado 80302
Steven J. Bushong
Paul (Fritz) Holleman
Cassidy L. Woodard
Gunnar J. Paulsen
Kate A. Bosh
July 17, 2024
Heidi Hansen, P.E., CFM
Water Utilities Development Review Manager'
City of Fort Collins — Utilities
700 Wood Street
Fort Collins, CO 80521
Re: Proposed Drainage Outfall for Montava Phase D
Dear Ms. Hansen,
Karen L. Henderson
Of Counse!
Veronica A. Sperling
Rekr•ecl
(303) 431-9141
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I am in receipt of your letter to Max Moss dated June 18, 2024, and Max asked me to respond.
This letter incorporates infonnation from Montava, Martin/Martin ("M/M"), and TST Inc. where
appropriate.
1. Birky Order. Your letter raises questions regarding the Birky Order and its effect, if any,
on the drainage outfall for Phase D(i.e. the outfall pipe under Mountain Vista Drive). In response,
please consider the following:
A. There are no inconsistencies between the AB Agreement and the Birky Order. Both
agreements remain in place and reflect LWIC's acceptance of drainage under different
circumstances. Although the 1986 AB Agreement was entered just 10 years after the 1976
stipulated agreement contained in the Birky Order, it does not mention or attempt to replace
the Birky Order. Accordingly, while the Birky Order can help address some drainage
issues arising on certain AB lands — the AB Agreement addresses the rest of the drainage
on all the AB lands.
B. Additional commonsense support for the above statement is evident by the fact that AB
paid $150,000 to LWC for the additional stormwater discharge into the LWC even though
the Birky Order already existed — so additional benefit was clearly contemplated. (See AB
Agreeme�zt, recitals). Also, as noted in my June 12, 2024, letter to Mr. Sullivan, the 18"
Birky pipeline does not begin to address stormwater historically generated on AB Lands
as documented by M/M and the stormwater model.
Heidi Hansen
July 17, 2024
Page 2 of 5
C. Since the AB Agreement and the Birky Order are both in effect, they could both
theoretically benefit the Phase D lands. However, that's not the case, The Birky Order
does not appear to address any drainage from Phase D lands for the reasons stated below.
D. Most of the Phase D lands lie outside of the lands that were identified in the Birky Order
as potentially contributing drainage. (See attached Figure). Further, M/M concluded that
the small portion of Phase D included in the Birky Order likely drained south and didn't
benefit from the Birky Order. This is not surprising. Nor is it inconsistent with the Birky
Order, which explains that the listed properties are "in general terms, the ownership of the
lands from which such water is contributed ... [and] [t]he description of the lands are not
intended to be definitive, but it is intended only to indicate that the parties designated own
lands in the vicinity." (Birky Order, p.2).
E. The Birky pipeline cannot be the single point of stormwater outfall from west of the RR
right-of-way ("ROW") referenced in the AB Agreement. That single point of stormwater
outfall from west of the ROW is necessarily the 12 x 24 wooden box culvert as explained
below.
F. The AB Agreement does not itself allow "waters arising west of said right-of-way [to] be
conveyed into or discharged from structures east of said right-of-way, except for flows
that have historically occurred." (AB Agreement ¶ 2.c) (emphasis added). Accordingly,
the AB Agreement recognizes (and the M/M Model confirms) that some stormwater
historically moved from west to east of the ROW and was then discharged from structures
located east of the ROW. The Birky pipeline is exactly such a structure.
G. The lands identified as contributing water to the Birky pipeline all exist west of the ROW,
but were "contribut[ing] irrigation run-off, and flood water run-off and seepage and
underground waters to the Birky land" that lie east of the ROW. (Birky Order, p. 2; see
attached figure). Further, the Birky pipeline to be constructed to address the problem is
also defined as being east of the ROW. So, the drainage included in the Birky Order was
"discharged from" a structure constructed east of the ROW — not west of the ROW.
H. Further evidence is seen in a recorded document certifying the construction and location
of the Birky pipeline by M. W. Bittinger & Associates, Inc. about one inonth after the Birky
Order ("Certification"). A copy is attached hereto. Also attached is a figure depicting the
Birky pipeline from the Certification overlaid on an aerial photograph as prepared by TST.
What is clear from the figure is that the Birky pipeline collected drainage that had already
moved east of the ROW and existed near Mountain Vista Road. In other words, the Birky
pipeline is not diverting water from west of the ROW — but instead collecting the water
that has already moved fi-om west to east of the ROW as historically occurred.
I. The figure depicting Birky Order pipeline is also consistent with information learned by
Montava in speaking with Red Jewett, who was familiar with the fact that water historically
ponded in the area along what is now Mountain Vista Road east of the ROW where the
Birky Order pipeline was later constructed.
Heidi Hansen
July 17, 2024
Page 3 of 5
J. The only structure that can take water from west of the ROW and discharge it into the LWC
is the wooden box culvert. Montava's investigations failed to identify any other existing
structure capable of taking drainage from west of the ROW and discharging it directly into
the LWC. Moreover, all information indicates that the wooden structure has been there and
discharged into the LWC for a very long time and certainly before the AB Agreement. So,
when the AB Agreement states "that there currently exists only one (1) point source of
stormwater entry into the Ditch which conveys into the Ditch stormwater from A-B's land
lying west of the right-of-way" — that is necessarily the wooden box culvert.
K. Based on the above, the wooden box culvert takes stormwater from west of the ROW and
discharges it into LWC. That is necessarily the "one (1) point source of stormwater entry
into the Ditch" from west of the ROW. In contrast, the Birky pipeline takes stormwater
that has already collected east of the ROW and delivers it about'/z mile to the LWC through
a structure constructed entirely east of the ROW. Such an existing structure east of the
ROW is allowed under the AB Agreement to continue operating as it historically did.
2. BNSF A�reement. Your letter also raises questions about the applicability of the 1961
Railway Agreement. As explained below, the 1961 Railway Agreement does not pertain to the
wooden culvert, but the Phase D lands have an existing drainage easement through that culvert.
A. At Montava's request it received from BNSF two existing agreeinents for piping under the
ROW in the area of the wooden culvert. Upon reviewing the 1961 Railway Agreement,
we agree it appears to allow a 12-inch corrugated metal (CMP) culvert — not the 12" by
24" wooden box culvert.
B. Montava then asked for further information from BNSF on ROW crossings in this area and
was given the attached diagram showing crossings under the ROW. As you will see, there
are 3 possible crossings near the LWC. One is labeled "24" x 12" WB", which is a reference
to the 24" x 12" wooden boX culvert. Montava agrees with the City that the CMP subject
to the 1961 Railway Agreement does not appear to exist in that area and the wastewater
pipe subject to the other agreement Montava was provided by BNSF is not relevant here.
Thus, the wooden box culvert is the only existing structure at that location that can carry
drainage water. Also, the BNSF diagram shows arrows passing through the ROW at the
location of the wooden box culvert suggesting a drainage pathway.
C. Montava has further inquired with BNSF on whether it has any other crossing agreement
in that area and searched for records itself, but it appears no such agreement exists. That
indicates the wooden box culvert was likely installed by BNSF or its predecessor to
minimize the impact of drainage on the railroad, rather than at the request of a neighboring
landowner. Consistent with that, the wooden box culvert is located where M/1VI determined
that stonnwater naturally drains and collects and in very large storm events can even
overtop the railroad at that location.
Heidi Hansen
July 17, 2024
Page 4 of 5
D. Montava has a drainage easement to continue using the wooden box culvert and does not
require a separate agreement. That's because upgradient land in Colorado has a
prescriptive right for natural drainage to continue flowing across lower gradient land. See,
e.g., Hankins v. Bo�land, 431 P.2d 1007, 1010 (Colo. 1967). Drainage rights don't change
with development. Specifically, the rule of law "adopted by Colorado has been summarized
as follows: Natural drainage conditions may be altered by an upper proprietor provided the
water is not sent down in a manner or quantity to do more harm than formerly." Hankins,
421 P.2d at 1010 (citations omitted).
E. As explained below, Montava's proposed stormwater detention on Phase D lands will
actually reduce the stormwater burden carried by the wooden box culvert by reducing a
100-year developed storm event to a historic 2-year event. Further the stormwater outfall
from Phase D at Mountain Vista Drive relies on the historical drainage pathway and travels
about 3/4 of a mile before reaching the wooden culvert under the ROW.
F. In summary, the subject wooden structure is recognized by BNSF as an existing drainage
culvert under the ROW. The lack of any more recent agreement for its construction
coupled with the existing pathway for drainage from upgradient lands that leads to the
culvert demonstrates the culvert was constructed to pass drainage from above-gradient
lands. Colorado law recognizes that upgradient lands including Phase D have a prescriptive
drainage easement to continue discharging drainage down its historical pathway, which
passes through the wooden culvert into the LWC. That right was further recognized by
LWC in the AB Agreement, which was approved by the City.
3. Field Visit Concerns. Finally, your letter raises some concerns from the May 30, 2024,
site visit regarding the historical wooden culvert used to pass stormwater under the BNSF ROW.
The following response was prepared by Montava, TST and M/M:
A. This existing system has been in place for inany decades and has not been
problematic. It is still functional and will remain functional until the new "ultimate
condition" conveyance system is designed and built by the Montava team and the City
according to the existing agreements, which will continue to discharge stormwater into
the LWC at historic rates allowed by the AB Agreement.
B. The outfall for Montava Phase D is the outlet of the proposed pipe under Mountain
Vista Drive that introduces the substantially reduced storm flows from the project to
the historic drainage path as identified in multiple studies. (See Montava Master
Drainage Plan and the ICON Regional Study.) The designs for Montava Phase D are
consistent with the City's stormwater criteria which required Montava to reduce the
100-year developed event to a 2-year historical outfall which has been accomplished at
the Mountain Vista outfall. This will substantially improve the conditions that
currently occur during larger events in the area of the historical wooden culvert.
Heidi Hansen
July 17, 2024
Page 5 of 5
C. The recent maintenance and cleaning of the culvert under BNSF has improved and
stabilized the condition of this historic point of storm water flow until the new system
is designed and built when needed in the future.
D. Although minor improvements can be implemented to address some of the issues you
note, there should be no need for major repairs or replacement of the structure at this
time, especially when its future use will be greatly reduced.
Thank you for the opportunity to respond to your concerns. Please let us know how else we can
assist you in moving forward with Montava.
Sincerely,
BUSHONG & HOLLEMAN, PC
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Steve Bushong
Counsel for Montava
cc: Max Moss, Project Manager — Montava
Forrest Hancock, Development Director — Montava
Ryan Byrne, PE, CFM, LEED AP
Derek Patterson, PE
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WHEREAS the Diatxict Gourt in and for tk� Cuunty of Larimer ar►d State
of Colorado, in civil action �. 21652, en�itled The Board of C:ouncy commis-
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si�uers,, pla:u�ttiff:, vs Cari W. 83 rky, et a_l. , de�endaa►l-s, (and in which other
parLi�� ve�e third party def�ants, additional thi.rd part�• defeadants, and
seccnd aet of adtlitioaal third party defEnd$nts) entered an ord�r dated the
23rd c�ay uf 3an•.iary, 1975, providiag ln part �s fnll.ow3:
.� "�he �.3,ne, deptr and dimensioas of the �ipexir.e shall be precis�ly
d�t�rmined and d����ihed by the e:�giriee�s aod a docum�ent so determin-
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recordeo in the office ai t�e Lsri��� C�unty Clerk � Recorder up.�
the com.pletion of t��e require�nents of this r.rder."
dNU k'HE�EAS, pursuant to such arder, C�e dsscr.fpti�a af the pipeli�►e has
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�,een determined by M. W. �ittinger b Associates, In�., the engineers ap�ointe�
by �h� �GtaZL tQ malce the above determinati.or_.
F1QS�1, .'!`EiEREFOKE, in complianr.e with saici order, M. W. Bittinger & Associates,
In�o d�es certify the location and descrip�in� of said piF�line, Qver and acro�:�
the lands of �he vurious parties, descri�iag therein th� width of the required
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and with �11 br:.�rings ccn�aizeu h�re.�:Y rela�ive tr.�re�a;
B��ir.n;n�, at a point whieh bears it SE�35'S7" E, '�yl.?l Fe�t fr.:�e th�
�`�orth l�!r Carntr. o£ sai� Section 4, p:oceed S 8g°3t3`L2" F:, 3G5.�� fee�, t:.en�ce
S�L►n �6' 38" �.', 56. 65 f�et mure or les�s to CIs� Sou �2-� right-�� -way liT►e �� �.
C�►unty z'o�d a.nd cer�ination Po;n*' c,f �aid e�:s�e:�L c� :t��rlYr.e.
This Iine starts as a i0-inch line and changes to zn I8-inch line �n thP
secon� ca11. It hae a r�epth of from 6-1/2 feet to 8-I/2 feet.
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L�:gal descripr.ioa af an easer.i�nt I.c�cated ir: the ���t�.;��ast 1/� o�
Section 33, Tow��hip 8 itiorth, Rati;;L bS ��est t,� th� ��a P.r:. ai:d the Eas�
1/2 of Secti�:� 4, Tawn�hip I hor���, kan�;e b� +�est o� �he F��s P.:�,., LariLe�
County, Colur�a�o�
A 20-faot perr.ianent d�ai;ta�;e gip�I�ne eL�e.::�zit, 10 fee': e�ci► side af
t�ie folloi�•ing des�r�b�d cer_te.rlii:E� ar�d a b�-foot drai.�r.,:de �ir�li.ne coastruc�;��
eas<went, 30 feet each �ide o` tt�e follc��•iz��; describ�d lir�e. .
C:,ns:Lderzn,� the Nor�.i line �,f saicl Se��ion 4 as bearir.�; :y ��°�O��JC" E
and with all bearic:�;s c�n.tained herezn re�.ati�v� Lheret�;
Beginutng at �. �oi.nt whsch bear s Iv 86°39' S7" £, �r 91 � 21 f ��� f row �h�
2vorth 1/4 Carner of said Se�ti�:� 4, procee3 S 8�°��'�.`�.'� E, 3�;.�J f�e�,
th��nce S G�p5b'38" W, 26.FS fe�t more ox les.� to MhQ a�c���^. lin� t�x�:naLic�:�
point o� said casem�nt centerlinf:�
This line st:arts ae a?.�-inch line ancl ciiang�e to ran 18-inch line on the
s�c:ond ca12. It hae � depth of 6-1/2 to 7-1/2 feet.
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