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Home My WebLink About209 CHERRY STREET - MIXED USE - PDP230006 - SUBMITTAL DOCUMENTS - ROUND 3 - FIRE AUTHORITY REQUIREMENTS City of Fort Collins Request for Alternative Method of Compliance or Modification 2/24/2020 Planning, Development & Transportation Services Community Development & Neighborhood Services Request for Alternative Method of Compliance or Modification Address: Use: Type of Const: Suite #: Building #: # of Stories: Fire-Suppression: YES NO Total Sq. Ft. of Building: Sq. Ft. of Project: Name of Building: Date: Contact Person: Building Owner: Mailing Address: Permit #: Contact Phone #: Email: Code Request Type Building Electrical Mechanical Plumbing Energy Swimming Pool and Spa Proposal Description – Explain how it is equivalent (Alternative Method) or your practical difficulties (Modification) in carrying out the provisions of this code. (Print or Type; Attach documentation or use back of this form if needed.): For Office Use Only If this Alternative Method of Compliance or Modification is Not Approved the Building Official Shall respond in Writing, Stating the reason why it was not approved Fire Department Concurrence Required Approved Not Approved Approved By: ___________________________ Title: ___________________________________ Date: _____________ Approved By: ___________________________ Title: ___________________________________ Date: _____________ Approved By: ___________________________ Title: ___________________________________ Date: _____________ Type of Request Alternative Method of Compliance Modification 209 Cherry St, Fort Collins, CO 80521 Multifamily Type III over Type I-A 7 X 169,660 H25 04/14/2023 Don Bernholtz (VFLA) Colmena Group PDP230006 1201 Wilmington Ave, Suite 115 (970) 498-2996 X X See the attached letter"Proposed Alternative Provisions in Lieu of Aerial Apparatus Access", dated March 3, 2023 for proposal. VFLA Architecture + Interiors don@vfla.com Salt Lake City, UT 84106 419 Canyon Ave. Fort Collins, CO 80521 (Building Permit# TBD) 7 Strength in design. Strength in partnership. Strength in community. Page 1 of 1 VAUGHT FRYE LARSON ARONSON architects 419 Canyon Ave, Suite 200 ▪ Fort Collins, CO ▪ 970.224.1191 108 East Lincolnway ▪ Cheyenne, WY ▪ 307.635.5710 www.v f l a . c o m March 7, 2023 To: City of Fort Collins Planning & Development Services, and Poudre Fire Authority Project: 209 Cherry St Mixed Use Subject: Proposed Alternative Provisions in Lieu of Aerial Apparatus Access This letter is being provided to describe the proposed Alternative Method of Compliance as follows: A full Aerial Apparatus Access provision will not be feasible for this site since the available run on the west side alley is limited to 150-foot from Cherry St for a one-way access, and the building’s west façade continues beyond that distance. Cherry St is too far away from building to comply with the 15-to-30 foot offset requirement, and Mason St is a non-eligible Arterial. We are proposing select high-rise provisions in lieu of aerial access. The determination of these provisions is focused upon the protection and fortification of the stair shafts and greater access to the roof during emergencies, to both aid the operations of the Fire Department and provide the building’s occupants with safer conduits for egress. Here is a summary of the proposed "High-Rise" features to be provided in lieu of Aerial Apparatus Access addressed in this letter: Item #1 : Increased fire ratings of the stair and elevator shafts from 2 hour to 3 hour. Item #2 : Emergency lighting in stair shafts. Item #3 : Increased width of the stairways for better fire personnel access, 4’-4” wide. Item #4 : Both stair shafts provided access to the roof with a full personnel door/walk out access. The design in March 8th PDP includes this. Item #5 : Smokeproof stair enclosure with mechanically ventilated stairwells. Thank you for taking the time to review our proposed High-Rise features to be provided in lieu of Aerial Apparatus Access. We hope you will find our commentary useful in final determination of the items addressed above. For reference, the following pages are email correspondence to date regarding proposed High-Rise features. Sincerely, Don Bernholtz, VFLA Architecture & Interiors 1 Don Bernholtz From:Mary Taylor <mtaylor@russellmillsstudios.com> Sent:Monday, February 13, 2023 9:48 AM To:Don Bernholtz Cc:Marcus Glasgow; Chris Aronson Subject:Re: 209 Cherry St - PFA Project Discussion Follow Up Flag:Follow up Flag Status:Completed Hi Don and Marcys, We do not intend to continue with access to the West. Only perimeter access from Cherry and the property from the south (between the 2 Mason Flats bldgs). We have perimeter access well covered with these 2 locations. No other areas for aerial -- just high rise provisions. Thanks-- Mary Taylor, RLA, ASLA Senior Landscape Architect mtaylor@russellmillsstudios.com | www.russellmillsstudios.com M: 636.675.4122 | O: 970.484.8855 On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 11:08 AM Don Bernholtz <don@vfla.com> wrote: Thanks Marcus. For the West access question: we had assumed that because this was not going to satisfy the full side of the building, then we would abandon that proposed aerial access, but if you wanted to re-evaluate that available area as potentially suitable aerial access again, we’d be happy to continue that discussion. For the stairwell emergency lighting option: would a battery-based system be sufficient for emergency power? Cc’d Mary & Chris for reference. DON BERNHOLTZ Architect 2 NCARB VFLA ARCHITECTURE + INTERIORS 419 Canyon Avenue, Suite 200 Fort Collins, CO 80521 Cell: 970.682.4927 Office: 970.224.1191 Direct: 970.498-2996 108 East Lincolnway Cheyenne, WY 82001 Phone: 307.635.5710 From: Marcus Glasgow <Marcus.Glasgow@poudre-fire.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 10:35 AM To: Don Bernholtz <don@vfla.com> Subject: RE: 209 Cherry St - PFA Project Discussion Hello Don, I apologize about the delayed response on this. One thing I wanted clarification on was the access on the West. Is this still proposed? 3 I spoke with the team and the high rise features you have proposed would probably work other than item 2. Reflective tread nosing would need to be luminous. As an alternative to this, the Assistant Fire Marshal would approve full stairwell lighting under emergency power. To get these alternative methods approved, you will need to write a letter of request to the Fire Marshal for approval. Thanks Marcus Glasgow Fire Safety Inspector | Plan Review 102 Remington St. | Fort Collins, CO 80524 marcus.glasgow@poudre-fire.org Cell: 970-732-1701 | Office: 970-416-2869 www.poudre-fire.org Follow us for incident information and safety education. 4 From: Don Bernholtz <don@vfla.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 6:04 AM To: Marcus Glasgow <Marcus.Glasgow@poudre-fire.org> Cc: Chris Aronson <Chris@vfla.com> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: 209 Cherry St - PFA Project Discussion [NOTICE: This message originated outside of Poudre Fire Authority -- DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe.] Good morning, Marcus. We were curious if you had a chance to review the Exhibit we sent last Tuesday 1/31, and if you either had any feedback to share or wanted to set up a meeting soon. Please let me know, as we have project team meetings each Wednesday, and the Ownership has been looking to get resolve on this alternative high-rise features proposal. Thanks DON BERNHOLTZ Architect NCARB VFLA ARCHITECTURE + INTERIORS 419 Canyon Avenue, Suite 200 Fort Collins, CO 80521 Cell: 970.682.4927 Office: 970.224.1191 Direct: 970.498-2996 108 East Lincolnway Cheyenne, WY 82001 Phone: 307.635.5710 5 From: Don Bernholtz Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 10:27 AM To: Marcus Glasgow <Marcus.Glasgow@poudre-fire.org> Cc: Chris Aronson <Chris@vfla.com> Subject: RE: 209 Cherry St - PFA Project Discussion Marcus, please see attached Fire Access Exhibit. On this exhibit we are proposing 5 high-rise provisions we think are effective alternative features to aerial access. Please review internally and let us know if PFA would agree with or suggest other features that may be more beneficial in lieu of our proposed items. Thanks DON BERNHOLTZ Architect NCARB VFLA ARCHITECTURE + INTERIORS 419 Canyon Avenue, Suite 200 Fort Collins, CO 80521 Cell: 970.682.4927 Office: 970.224.1191 Direct: 970.498-2996 108 East Lincolnway Cheyenne, WY 82001 6 Phone: 307.635.5710 From: Marcus Glasgow <Marcus.Glasgow@poudre-fire.org> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 8:51 AM To: Don Bernholtz <don@vfla.com> Subject: RE: 209 Cherry St - PFA Project Discussion Hello Don, If aerial access is not an option for the site, then you would need to provide alternative methods of compliance (high- rise provisions). Typically, the process would be writing a letter to the Fire Marshal requesting an alternative method of compliance. Thanks 7 Marcus Glasgow Fire Safety Inspector | Plan Review 102 Remington St. | Fort Collins, CO 80524 marcus.glasgow@poudre-fire.org Cell: 970-732-1701 | Office: 970-416-2869 www.poudre-fire.org Follow us for incident information and safety education. From: Don Bernholtz <don@vfla.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 4:20 PM To: Marcus Glasgow <Marcus.Glasgow@poudre-fire.org> Cc: Chris Aronson <Chris@vfla.com> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: 209 Cherry St - PFA Project Discussion [NOTICE: This message originated outside of Poudre Fire Authority -- DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe.] Marcus, we wanted to check-in with you on the proposed site and building layout for 209 Cherry St. In our last discussion, we had determined that the full aerial apparatus provision would not be feasible since the west side alley was limited to a 150-foot from Cherry St for a one-way access. Cherry St is too far away form building, and Mason St is deemed arterial. We were considering providing some high-rise provisions in-lieu of aerial access. Have you had any internal discussion within PFA, or would you like to set up another meeting to discuss further? 8 DON BERNHOLTZ Architect NCARB VFLA ARCHITECTURE + INTERIORS 419 Canyon Avenue, Suite 200 Fort Collins, CO 80521 Cell: 970.682.4927 Office: 970.224.1191 Direct: 970.498-2996 108 East Lincolnway Cheyenne, WY 82001 Phone: 307.635.5710 From: Mary Taylor <mtaylor@russellmillsstudios.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 2:30 PM To: Marcus Glasgow <Marcus.Glasgow@poudre-fire.org> Cc: Don Bernholtz <don@vfla.com>; Chris Aronson <Chris@vfla.com>; nstarck <nstarck@russellmillsstudios.com> Subject: Re: 209 Cherry St - PFA Project Discussion 9 Hi Marcus, Thanks again for your time on Monday. After studying the options we discussed, a proposed fire lane in the enhanced alley and on Mason makes the most sense. I have attached an exhibit for you to review and run by the fire marshal before we start proceeding with design changes. This approach is only feasible with acceptance from the Planning department on alternative compliance for the "Green Edge" standards. We have reached out to discuss this with them. So, if this approach has to change in any way due to those design constraints, we will let you know as soon as possible. Thanks and have a great rest of your week. Mary Mary Taylor, RLA, ASLA Senior Landscape Architect mtaylor@russellmillsstudios.com | www.russellmillsstudios.com M: 636.675.4122 | O: 970.484.8855 On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 12:32 PM Mary Taylor <mtaylor@russellmillsstudios.com> wrote: Hi Marcus, Please plan on Monday from 1-2PM. I will send a calendar invite with the Zoom link. Thanks! 10 Mary Taylor, RLA, ASLA Senior Landscape Architect mtaylor@russellmillsstudios.com | www.russellmillsstudios.com M: 636.675.4122 | O: 970.484.8855 On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 1:52 PM Marcus Glasgow <Marcus.Glasgow@poudre-fire.org> wrote: Hello Mary, At the moment, I have the following times available next week. Monday 10-3 Thursday 12-3 Friday 8-3 Marcus Glasgow Fire Safety Inspector | Plan Review 102 Remington St. | Fort Collins, CO 80524 marcus.glasgow@poudre-fire.org 11 Cell: 970-732-1701 | Office: 970-416-2869 www.poudre-fire.org Follow us for incident information and safety education. From: Mary Taylor <mtaylor@russellmillsstudios.com> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 1:48 PM To: Marcus Glasgow <Marcus.Glasgow@poudre-fire.org> Cc: Nathan Starck <nstarck@russellmillsstudios.com>; Chris Aronson <Chris@vfla.com>; Don Bernholtz <don@vfla.com> Subject: [EXTERNAL] 209 Cherry St - PFA Project Discussion [NOTICE: This message originated outside of Poudre Fire Authority -- DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe.] Hi Marcus, Do you have time next week to discuss the 209 Cherry St project? We went through PDR and received comments from you and your team on 09/29/22. (Project #PDR220012). In this meeting we would like to discuss your comments, as well as, some strategies for fire lanes and the 150' perimeter requirements. Tuesday and Wednesday next week are fairly open for Russell + Mills if there is a time that works for you those days. This meeting would be through Zoom. 12 Thanks and we look forward to hearing from you. Mary Mary Taylor, RLA, ASLA Senior Landscape Architect mtaylor@russellmillsstudios.com | www.russellmillsstudios.com M: 636.675.4122 | O: 970.484.8855 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual(s) addressed in the message. If you are not the named addressee, you should not disseminate, distribute, or copy this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, distributing, or copying this e-mail is strictly prohibited.