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Home My WebLink AboutHARMONY MARKET PUD, 5TH FILING - PRELIMINARY & FINAL - 54-87G - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING0 0 NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING MINUTES PROJECT: Auto Lube and Carwash, Harmony Market 5th Filing DATE: February 17, 1993 REPRESENTATIVE: Eldon Ward, Cityscape Urban Design PROJECT PLANNER: Ted Shepard QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS 1. The proposal occupies only the southern half of the pad site. What is planned on the northern half? RESPONSE: We do not know at this time. 2. What are the hours of operation for the two users? RESPONSE: The lube facility will be open six, and possibly seven, days per week. The hours of operation will be normal working hours, probably 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. The carwash is self serve and has the potential to be open seven days per week, 24-hours per day. 3. Where does the carwash effluent go? RESPONSE! The effluent goes into a sand and grease trap which pre - treats the discharge before entering the sanitary sewer. The effluent does not go into the storm sewer system. 4. Is the carwash automatic or self serve? RESPONSE: The carwash is self serve with hand-held wands, not an automatic drive-thru with large brushes and machines. 5. Why was this particular site selected? Wouldn't it make more sense to put these uses out on Harmony Road for better exposure to drive -by traffic? RESPONSE: These uses are considered support service and are designed to capture the customers of Harmony Market in a combined trip. These uses do not particularly depend on impulsive drive -by traffic from the arterial street. The customer base is the. neighborhood. The operators consider the site advantageous. 6. As a nearby resident, I am concerned about the hours of operation. a 0 7. Lemay Avenue, from Elizabeth on down, has an attractive residential character. The proposed uses are not compatible with this character. 8. I used to live near the carwash at Drake and Taft (Drake Crossing) and I found this facility to attract litter and not benefit the residential character of the neighborhood. These uses would be better placed next to Builders Square, internal to the center, not on the edge. RESPONSE: This carwash will have an attendant during normal working hours. The attendant will help keep the site clean. Locating next to Builders Square would introduce traffic patterns into the center than can more easily be accommodated at the corner of Oak Ridge and the Steele's Market access drive. Mixing auto related traffic with pedestrians using the retail stores would not be a good idea. 9. Where is the storm water detention area for Harmony Market? RESPONSE: Basically, the storm water detention ponds for the Pace, Builders Square, and Steele's are located between the rear of the buildings and Oak Ridge Drive. 10. Why not locate south of Oak Ridge Drive? RESPONSE: The L.D.G.S. encourages these uses to be part of a planned center, and not free-standing uses. 11. I am very disappointed to see auto lube and carwash located on Lemay Avenue. These uses are difficult to buffer and are not a sensitive transition from the larger structures in Harmony Market over to Lemay Avenue and the uses further east. 12. It is agreed that the use is probably needed to serve the neighborhood but the location right on Lemay Avenue is a problem. With these two uses, there will be open bays for autos. These are not typical buildings. These types of buildings are open, and are considered to be an unattractive visual element which detract from the entire area. 13. These uses will need special attention to architecture. Good architecture can make a difference in mitigating the auto uses. 14. What controls are there to make sure the site will be maintained and not become an unattended area that collects litter? RESPONSE: Both operators will become part of the Harmony Market Association and subject to the same covenants as the three existing anchor tenants. These covenants require that the site be maintained and that the landscaping be kept alive. Similarly, the developers are required to sign a Site and Landscape Covenant with the filing of the P.U.D. and Subdivision Plat and which is recorded with the City and Larimer County Clerk and Recorder. 0 15. Have you considered angling the lube building so that it is not perpendicular to Lemay? This may create more interest and landscaped area. RESPONSE: This was considered and found to create an exposure of the bays to Lemay Avenue that would be more visible to the driving public than a perpendicular orientation. 16. Are landscaped berms proposed for along Lemay Avenue. RESPONSE: Not at this time. Presently, there is a drainage swale parallel to Lemay along the entire easterly property line. This swale carries drainage from areas of Harmony Market.to the north. Berms would interfere with the swale. Landscaping would be located on the sides of this swale. 17. Conifers will have to be sizable if they are to be planted within the sides and the top of a drainage swale. 18. Have you considered placing the swale in a pipe and covering the area with fill material to create a landscaped berm? RESPONSE: Yes, this was considered and there would be an impact on the stormwater detention requirements on the parcels to the north, or upstream of this site. 15. If there is going to be a swale, then there will need to be ,more than 25 feet setback along Lemay Avenue. 20. Where will the signage be? RESPONSE: There will be one free --standing monument sign on the northeast corner of the site along Lemay Avenue. To'the best of our knowledge at this time, the carwash will have a flush wall sign on the east elevation, and the lube will have flush wall signs on the east and west elevations. 21. Will any waste oil be stored underground in tanks? RESPONSE: No, waste oil is stored above ground in barrels and is picked up on a regular basis. 22. Will the lube shop use hoists or pits? RESPONSE: Pits. 23. Will there be any translucent, illuminated awnings? RESPONSE: No, the only awnings will be traditional canvas and not be illuminated like a sign. 24. Will any of the bays in either facility be enlarged in height to accommodate trucks? RESPONSE• No. 25. Is there any recourse if the site is not maintained, or if the. site is littered and not kept up? RESPONSE: Yes, please call us or the City of Fort Collins if the site is not maintained. 26. What is the time frame for development? RESPONSE: The operators would like to be open by Fall. 27. I think it is important to emphasize that there is a special need to landscape the facility along Lemay Avenue. With the swale, this may be a problem. 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