HomeMy WebLinkAboutBUILDERS SQUARE AT HARMONY MARKET PUD, 2ND FILING - FINAL - 54-87D - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING MINUTES
PROJECT: Builders Square at Harmony Market P.U.D.
APPLICANT: Mr. Tony Feist, Feist-Meagher Company
ARCHITECT: Mr. Frank Vaught, Vaught-Frye Architects
PROJECT PLANNER: Ted Shepard
DATE: May 31, 1990
QUESTIONS, CONCERNS COMMENTS
1. Will Oak Ridge Drive be constructed all the way through to Lemay
Avenue? It would be desirable to make this connection to allow another
entrance to the project. It would also help relieve traffic off Boardwalk
Drive.
RESPONSE: This issue is not fully resolved at this time. The Traffic Impact
Analysis indicates that a southerly access off Oak Ridge Drive is not needed
to serve the anticipated traffic for Builders Square. The proposed
right-in/right-out at Harmony Road and the existing access off Boardwalk are
sufficient. When the grocery tenant comes in, then Oak Ridge will be required
to be connected to Lemay Avenue.
2. What happens to the fence around the Pace loading and service area?
RESPONSE: The fence will be removed and landscaping installed.
3. What happens to the existing farm house along Harmony Road?
RESPONSE: The farm house and sheds and all other improvements will be
removed to accommodate the new access off Harmony Road. The large mature
trees will be preserved to best extent possible.
4. What are the hours of operation?
RESPONSE: 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. weekdays and Saturdays, 9:00 a.m. to 6:00
p.m. Sundays. The peak hours during the week will be 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m.
to serve the wholesale accounts and contractors. The peak hours on weekends
will be in the afternoon.
5. Why not extend the wainscoating or brick around the east and south
elevations? Pace has this treatment on all four sides.
RESPONSE: Pace has this treatment on all four sides due to the proximity to
Oak Ridge Drive. Since Builders Square will be setback further from Oak
Ridge, and since the garden shop is on the east, it is believed that this
treatment will not be necessary.
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6. What fence materials will be used for the garden shop enclosure?
RESPONSE: This will be a vinyl-clad chain link fence.
7. What is the roof material over the garden shop area?
RESPONSE: This will be a combination of open trellis and flat roof.
8. There needs to be a strong pedestrian connection to the Harmony Market
shopping Center from Oak Ridge Drive on the south. It is likely that
there will be employment uses located south of Oak Ridge Drive and it
will be important to bring pedestrians into the center, especially to the
pad sites if they develop as restaurants.
RESPONSE: It may work best to connect Oak Ridge with a sidewalk to retail
pads C and D (just east of Builders Square) so there will not be a conflict
with the southerly access drive for Builders Square. Certainly a pedestrian
connection is warranted but it may depend on the next retail phase.
9. The sidewalk on Oak Ridge Drive is a concern. It would be a more
pleasant and safe walking experience if the sidewalk were detached from
the curb.
RESPONSE: Oak Ridge Drive is a collector street. The City is currently
evaluating the street standard for collector streets to accommodate sidewalks,
landscaping, and underground utilities. Please keep in mind that a detached
sidewalk creates a "parkway strip" that requires irrigation and maintenance.
The developer is sensitive to the need for safe sidewalks and is willing to look
at solutions that will work for all the affected parties.
10. The design treatment of the east and south elevations remains a strong
concern. The lack of brick or wainscoating treatment, the chain link
fence, all seem to indicate that the area will look like Wal-Mart, which is
extremely unattractive. Surely there are design treatments that can be
done to upgrade these areas. The Harmony Market is supposed to be a
classy center, not just another Wal-Mart development. How about a solid
wood fence, wrought iron, or at least a fence with brick columns? Chain
link looks temporary, not permanent. How about paint or brick around
the entire south wall? Even though it will be setback from Oak Ridge
Drive, it will still be visible and need sensitive treatment.
RESPONSE: These are good comments. The vinyl clad chain link is the
corporate standard because it is necessary to see through the fence. The
developer and architect will consider these suggestions.
11. Oak Ridge Drive should be extended to Lemay to relieve traffic on
Whalers Way.
12. Will the parking lot lighting and exterior building lighting be similar to
Pace? Speaking for myself, the parking lot lighting at Pace is less
objectionable than the street lighting on Boardwalk Drive and the
building security lighting on Pace's south and west walls. This building
security lighting is mounted very high on the wall and appears to much
too bright for security purposes. Is it necessary to have security lighting
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mounted so high? Builders Square should be aware of these concerns and
lower their security lighting.
Also, the lower parking lot lighting standard (15 feet) is preferable to the
taller pole.
RESPONSE: Again, thank you for these comments. The developer is pleased
to hear that the westerly parking lot lights are not objectionable since these
were intentionally reduced in height to 15 feet to accommodate the residents.
The comments about Pace's building lights will be passed onto the Pace store
manager. Builders Square will look closely at the building security lighting to
see if can not be lowered.
13. The northerly row of parking lot lights for Pace are 33 feet high and are
annoying for people living north of Harmony Road. Also, these lights are
located on ground that is of a higher elevation than the rest of the
center.
RESPONSE: The developer will look at the parking lot lighting for Builders
Square and evaluate the security needs. Please be reminded that the lower
pole requires more fixtures to cover the area with illumination. Also, the
Builders Square site is of lower elevation than Pace so that should help.
14. The landscaping for Pace came out real well and looks great. Will there
be comparable landscaping for Builders Square?
RESPONSE: Yes, there will be the same dollars per square foot invested in
Builders Square as with Pace. Also, the landscape architect and contractor will
be the same as on the Pace job.
15. Boardwalk Drive is impacted by Harmony Market. There are inadequate
left turn lanes at Boardwalk and Breakwater and the entrance to High
Point. Also, the improvements to Harmony and College intersection have
not been constructed. Saturday traffic is already heavy on Boardwalk due
to activity at Landings Park.
RESPONSE: The improvements to the Harmony and College intersection will
not occur this year due to a decision by City Council. The section on College
Avenue between Horsetooth Road and Troutman Parkway will be improved
with a median some time this year. The concerns about Boardwalk Drive and
the need for left turn bays onto the local streets will be passed onto the
Transportation Department.
16. Builders Square does not appear to demonstrate any residential design
components. With Pace being a big, blocky building, and Builders Square
being a big, blocky building, the Harmony Market will resemble a
warehouse district. This is not what was represented to the neighborhood
last year during the approval process. Where are the sloped roofs, where
is the residential character, and what is being done to mitigate these large
blocky buildings?
RESPONSE: It is difficult to construct a pitched roof on a large building
such as Builders Square. The promises made last year about pitched roofs
particularly referred to the pad sites. It is anticipated that the grocery anchor
building will be less blocky since it will consist of less square footage. The
smaller retail tenant spaces will provide an opportunity to create more
residential looking architecture. Please be aware that there will not be any
wood shake shingle roofs.
17. Why do there have to be all those signs advertising the individual
departments along the front of the store? These look unattractive. The
center would look classier without these extra signs.
RESPONSE: The developer feels that these signs would be more uniform than
if there were a variety of multiple tenants with the same amount of retail
floor area and all their individual signs. These signs will not be illuminated.
The parent corporation, K-Mart, specifies these signs as part of the national
standard.
18. Please pass along to the K-Mart corporation that the residents in the
surrounding neighborhoods do not care about K-Mart's national corporate
standards and that the signs ought to be deleted to promote neighborhood
sensitivity.
19. There is a concern that the center will never attract the smaller retail
tenant that will truly serve the neighborhood. Pace is not a neighborhood
store. Builders Square will not serve the neighborhood. We need personal
service shops, small retail, that will be neighborhood in scope, not large
warehouse retail that serves the entire region. If there is no small,
neighborhood serving retail, then the design character of the center will
suffer.
RESPONSE: The developer will not build small retail space on a speculative
basis. This has happened all over Fort Collins and the result is empty retail
centers. Again, it is anticipated that the third major anchor will be grocery
store which should help lend a neighborhood feel to the center. A grocery
anchor should attract the smaller personal service and retail shops.
20. Who will own and develop the site?
RESPONSE: Feist-Meager will own and develop the site. The Neenan
Company will build the building. As you know, Pace built their own building.
The Pace site has been sold to an insurance company in Washington D.C.
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