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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MINUTES
July 25, 1988
The regular meeting of the
Planning and Zoning Board
was called to order at
6:32 p.m. in Council Chambers of New City Hall, 300
LaPorte Avenue,
Fort
Collins, Colorado.
Chairman O'Dell introduced
the new board members that
were present,
Lloyd
Walker and Jan Shepard.
Board members present at
the meeting included Dave
Edwards, Sandy
Kern,
Laurie O'Dell, Jim Klataske,
Lloyd Walker and Alternate
Jan Shepard.
Staff members present included Sherry Albertson -Clark, Paul Eckman,
Tom
Peterson, Ted Shepard, Mike
Herzig and Linda Ripley.
Planning Director Tom Peterson reviewed the Consent and Discussion Agenda.
The Consent Agenda Included: Item 1, June 27, 1988 and July 11, 1988, min-
utes; Item 2, 33-82B ASAMERA OIL COMPANY P.U.D. -AMENDED - Prelimi-
nary and Final; Item 3, 203-79E CASA GRANDE P.U.D. (WAGONWHEEL
THIRD), PHASE 1 & 2, Extension of Final Approval; Item 4, PINEVIEW PUD
- One Year Extension Request; Item 5, 60-88 WESTRIDGE ESTATES P.U.D.
-County Referral. The Discussion Agenda included: Item 6, 90-85C WILD
WOOD FARM P.U.D. - Master Plan; Item 7, 90-85D WILD WOOD FARM
P.U.D., 1ST FILING, CARTER HOSPITAL -Preliminary;
GREENS PUD - Master Plan - County Referral.
The Board removed Items 1 and 4.
Member Kern moved to approve Items 2, 3, and 5 of the Consent Agenda.
Member Klataske seconded. The motion carried 6-0.
Member Strom indicated that through a letter sent to the Board, he was
referred to as "Alternate Bernie Strom" in the June 27, 1988 and July 11, 1988
minutes, which he is not, and would like those two references stricken from
the minutes. He would also like to note that in the discussion of the junior
high school in the June 27, 1988 minutes, on page 6, paragraph 2, there needed
to be more emphasis on City Council and the School Board moving off the
dime and a decision made as to who would be responsible for street and side-
walk improvements needed for safe access. He would like that kind of mes-
sage passed on to the School Board with our minutes. Mr. Eckman also
changed the June 27, 1988 minutes in reference to members abstaining in their
vote. The members did not abstain from voting because they were needed to
make up a quorum, rather there was a withdrawl of participation. Chairman
O'Dell recommended that those not present at the previous meetings abstain
from voting on those particular minutes. Motion carried on approval of June
27, 1988 minutes 6-0. Motion carried on approval of July 11, 1988 minutes 6-0.
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Linda Ripley stated that staff requested that Pineview PUD - One Year Exten-
sion Request be pulled because staff was not adequately prepared at the work
session to address the background information. Staff would present the infor-
mation at the meeting.
Craig Platt, the applicant for Pineview PUD, indicated that the reason the
approvals on tracts A, B, D, and E had not been extended was because the
bank took those tracts back from the owners. He had tried to keep the Tract
C approval extended.
Linda Ripley stated that staff recommended approval with the following two
conditions: 1) that the project meet all current city standards at final review;
and 2) that an updated traffic study be submitted at final review.
Member Edwards asked if the Neighborhood Service Center was still appropri-
ate considering the future location of single family dwellings, school, etc.
Ms. Ripley indicated that the location of the Neighborhood Service Center was
still appropriate given the policies of the Land Use Policy Plan.
Member Edwards questioned how staff felt about the abrupt change from a
Neighborhood Service Center to a single family.
Ms. Ripley noted that staff had not heard of this proposal until this meeting.
The applicant would have to come back in to amend the Master Plan. At that
time the issue would be addressed by staff.
Mr. Peterson also noted that since the Pleasant Valley and Lake Ditch still run
behind Tract C, this would aide the urban design parameters needed to achieve
neighborhood compatibility.
Member Edwards moved for approval of the Pineview PUD Extension until
July 25, 1989. Member Kern seconded the motion.
Member Kern commented on the fact that this particular proposal was appro-
priate but there was going to have to be more care in planning the remainder
of the site.
Member Walker stated that his concern was the length of the extension.
Member Edwards noted that he neglected to say in his motion the two condi-
tions outlined by staff be included in his motion. Motion carried 6-0.
WILD WOOD FARM P.U.D. - Master Plan - #90-85C
Linda Ripley gave the staff report. She
stated that the
applicant was
Wild
Wood Farm, Inc., represented by Cityscape
Urban Design,
Inc. She noted
the
Master Plan was consistent with the City's
_Goals and Obiectives
and Land
Use
Policies Plan, which supported industrial and/or business
service uses at
this
location. Staff supported the location of
approved by the State Highway Department.
Corbet Drive
but it was not
yet
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Member Kern asked if in the first condition, did staff intend to delete the
words and energy calculation.
Ms. Ripley stated that it was left out because the Building Department said
they needed calculations.
Member Kern stated he would like to see some confirmatory type of calcula-
tions included. He also asked that since this project is continuous to Hewlett-
Packard, are we cutting corners for not giving points for that and if they
were to receive points for that, would they receive the number of necessary
points.
Chairman O'Dell stated that she supported this motion because it conformed to
the City's Goals and Objectives and Land Use Policies.
The motion to approve carried 6-0.
MIDLAND GREENS PUD - Master Plan - County Referral - #7-88A
Linda Ripley
gave a description. She noted that
staff drafted a preliminary
proposal, which was sent to the applicant in
mid June,
which listed five
conditions for
approval. These conditions are: 1)
that the
developer agree to
deed the open
space along Highway 287 to Larimer County
as permanent open
space; 2) that
the developer provide a landscape
plan for
the 250 foot wide
strip along Highway 287. The plan should be a naturalistic design concept that
builds upon the landscape already established along the canal. The developer
should agree to construct the approved plan and maintain the plant material
for a two year period after which time maintenance would be the responsibil-
ity of the County; 3) that the developer provide a set of design guidelines
would address fencing and landscaping of private development adjacent to the
open space; 4) that the developer dedicate at least four acres of land in
exchange for park land fees, and; 5) that the developer grant the local
governments a three year option to purchase an additional 31 acres of land.
The local government have the exclusive right to purchase the land either in
whole or in part for three years from the date of Master Plan approval. The
fair market value would be determined at time of purchase. If the local
government did not purchase the land within three years, the developer would
retain the right to develop the property as proposed on the Master Plan.
Dave Shoup, who represented the applicant, indicated how the developer
responded to the proposal. In regards to the first condition of deeding the 250
foot strip as permanent open space, it had been agreed to with two minor
exceptions: 1) that while the area would be predominantly open space, it would
have some uses which could be used for other than open space, such as a
community recreation facility, possibly a day care center, or a church. They
extended it another 50 feet so that the 700 foot stretch depth of the open
space would be 200 feet rather that 250 feet but that space would be added to
another open space. The depth of area that would be about 650 feet as pro-
posed to the 250 feet; 2) the other exception was a 250 feet parcel. The
purpose of that parcel would be to add area to the existing Alpine Autoban
Facility. The developers have agreed to provide a landscape plan for the area.
They would be amenable to include the guidelines for fencing in the final
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approval. In regards to the four acres, there was a problem with the suggestion
that they be purchased by a waiver of park fees since this was not a joint
venture but a jointly submitted planned unit development for two separate
owners. What they suggested was that land from one owner be purchased by
granting benefits to the other owner. As to the fifth point, to the extent that
if the City and or County were to exercise its option to purchase the remain-
ing lots in the Consolidated Industries portion and some nine lots in the back
corner of the Midland Greens portion, then there would not be the 100 lots to
grant the open space credit on. Some additional funding would be needed to be
found. The fifth point also presented some difficulty. The owners were reluc-
tant to grant a three year option for a simple reason that it would take the
property out of any type of market for a period of time. A right of refusal
had been suggested by the County staff as an alternative in the event that a
sale for the land would be desired by the City staff. The City and/or County
would have the right to buy at that price prior to any one else purchasing it.
One other point was in regard to the fifth point was that if the land were
purchased as open space, there would be no physical need to build the addi-
tional roadway. He also pointed out that with the right of first refusal rather
than a firm option it may be possible to maintain this potential. The phasing
plan would have to be adjusted.
Member Edwards
questioned what Mr. Shoup's
time needs would be
if there
were final details
which needed to be accomplished.
Mr. Shoup stated
that they were several months
away from starting.
Member Edwards
asked if there would be an
objection to a tabling
at this
point of this item pending further negotiations
and agreement on the
June 9
letter and its five
conditions.
Mr. Shoup noted that he has not been instructed
by his clients to offer
that as
an option.
Tom Peterson suggested that staff would hesitate to suggest passing an approval
recommendation at least until the five details from the June 9 letter were
worked out. He urged the Board to consider a resolution that would: a) keep
the recommendation for denial which was set forth in staff recommendation
until the five points are worked out; b) suggest to the County to table this
matter for 30 days until their meeting in late August, and; c) if Master Plan
were approved then attach the five conditions.
Paul Eckman expressed a possible concern with the right of refusal. The
amount of time the right of refusal given would be a problem with the three
governments.
Member Kern asked Mr. Eckman where the right of first refusal is to be
incorporated in the recommendations since that has the nature of a binding
agreement for the City.
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Mr. Eckman stated that it would not be making an agreement with the appli-
cant but a recommendation was being made to the County as to whether the
right of refusal was acceptable as opposed to the option that was earlier
proposed.
Member Kern questioned the waiver of park fees as to whether it pertained to
the County park fees, the city's, or both.
Mr. Peterson stated that it pertained to the county's.
Mr. Shoup asked that if the Board felt the right of first refusal was acceptable
then what would be the appropriate time period. _
Mr. Peterson stated that he suggested to the Board a delay of 30 days so that
there would be time to wrap up details.
Mr. Shoup stated that what he meant was time period for the right of refusal.
Mr. Peterson stated that a six month or year time frame was more realistic.
Member Shepard questioned the implication of tabling. If the Board recom-
mended to table it, would the County still hear it and make a decision?
Mr. Peterson stated that it would be up to the County Planning Commission
based on a recommendation.
Member Edwards questioned whether the Board had the option of referring this
issue to staff rather than tabling.
Member Walker stated that he felt that the five conditions were reasonable. He
felt the right of refusal would be very difficult to work with and what staff
has proposed would be more workable given the nature of the governmental
entities.
Chairman O'Dell questioned what the proposed zone was of the community use
area.
Mr. Shoup stated that the County would look at a zone and would permit
whatever density was decided on jointly. He said that would probably be an
El -Estate zone.
Chairman O'Dell questioned whether this would fill up the entire space or
leave part as open space.
Mr. Shoup indicated that it was something that could be negotiated.
Chairman O'Dell stated that she felt it was inappropriate to have any of this
land zoned as commercial zoning since it was not in conformance with the
intergovernmental agreement and she would not support that under any circum-
stances.
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Member Walker moved to approve the plan with the five conditions as stated
by the staff. Member Kern seconded the motion only if it was changed to say
grant approval only with the meeting of those five conditions.
Member Walker changed the motion to read "to be in substantial compliance
with these five conditions." Member Kern seconded.
Chairman O'Dell questioned condition One on whether the open space included
the entire length of the property, including the area the developer has noted to
be business.
Ms. Ripley stated that when the condition was written —it did not include that
item. _
Motion for approval carried 6-0.
With no Other Business, the meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
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