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Motion carried 5-0.
Member Strom -moved to recommend the Sherman -Lawler SeconCAnnexatlon an -Zoning with
the condition that it be placed in the neighborhood sign district.
Member Fontane seconded the motion.
Motion carried 5-0.
Member Strom moved to recommend the Sherman -Lawler Third Annexation and Zoning with
the condition that it be placed in the neighborhood sign district.
Member Fontane seconded the motion.
Motion carried 5-0.
Chair Clements mentioned that the following items for discussion will be postponed to March
7, 1994: Item 22 Waterglen PUD - Preliminary, Item 23 Waterglen - PUD Preliminary and Item
26 Proposed Amendments to the Appeals Provision of the City Code.
Horsetooth West PUD - Amended Overall Development Plan. #14-88I.
Mr. 5 that he would like the Board to consider
d Item 20 Silver Oaks PUD, Paired Ho. using"�r_ePflflinary, #14-88J
together with the Horsetooth West PUD, #14-88K, since they are related under the overall
development plan. The Board will accept each item, however, separately. Mr. Shepard then
read the staff report.
Ric Hattman - Gefroh-Hattman - The overall master plan was presented with a slide
presentation describing the properties and location in detail. A day care facility was relocated
closer to a different intersection to keep the morning and afternoon traffic dispersed and to
reduce the length of trip time to the area. The multiple family area will be directly adjacent
to the school site, with 3-units to the acre for the entire parcel. The Commercial area of Taft
Hill and Horsetooth with office buildings, day care center, convenience center and car wash.
With generous setbacks from arterials, screened parking by buildings, and canopy functions.
Features included outdoor areas near office buildings, all buildings are single -story in height,
wood siding on all structures. He showed slides of a near by gas/market station and did not
consider it a shopping center pointing out that it was not of their quality their project would
have. He stated that points should not be withheld for the project's location.
CITIZEN INPUT.
Glenn Church - Dalton Street in the Springfield Housing Subdivision - How are the units going
to be owned? How will these units be occupied, rentals?
Mr. Hattman said it is the intention of the developers to sell the duplexes in a condominium
fashion, each half to one person. It is looked at a owner -occupied situation; as in the City,
there may be rentals from time to time, but it is not intended to be a rental or a project
maintained by the developer to rent.
Member Cottier asked Mr. Shepard with respect to the commercial area, why wouldn't it be
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Mr. Shepard said the primary reason is that Bronson is not sufficiently separated from the
intersection of Horsetooth and Taft. That distance is needed for southbound left turn stacking.
To -introduce a curbcut in the -area would probably add some unnecessary corrgestion-to the
area. Bronson Street can serve that function, placing the curbcut there the flow is freed on the
arterial.
Member Klataske mentioned that this project did not receive points for being an office park
in a commercial area. Where does the definition for office park come from? Is there any basis
for the number of buildings that would constitute an office park?
Mr. Shepard said it is a definition out of the LDGS, definition section. He thought the units
were calculated to promote these centers for locating in as large of a concentration of offices
as possible so customers would be users on site without a lot of driving. The original
calculating formula was done in 1981 and he had no background knowledge of how those
numbers were arrived at in formulating them.
Member Klataske also asked about the convenience center canopy lighting issue been settled?
Is the developer aware of what will be permitted as far as downlighting?
Mr. Shepard said there is a note on the PUD as far as the under canopy lighting being flush
with the under canopy light not protruding. That the under canopy surface itself be painted
in an off-white or beige or tan. With those two considerations will be a lessening of the off -site
illumination that is seen in some centers.
Member Klataske asked why it is preferable to have a day care center located in a commercial
setting versus the location closer to the elementary school?
Mr. Shepard said the day care acts as a buffer for the retail office buildings, accessible not
only to residents within Silver Oaks but to anyone who is using Taft or Horsetooth, outside the
square mile section.
Chair Clements said the staff report states the condition concerning the operating hours of the
car wash. Is it only the car wash or would it include the convenience store?
Mr. Shepard said it pertains only to the car wash.
Mr. Eckman said there should be three separate motions and on Item 19, he called the Board's
attention to the variance to the requirement of 65% on point chart J, a variance. On page 5
there are staff findings to recommend that a one -day automatic car wash be considered
allowable and of similar character, a finding as part of a motion.
Member Cottier asked about finding No. 4?
Mr. Shepard said the justification of the variance satisfies the neighborhood land use policies
for a shopping center and that by making the finding on the variance, it satisfies the locational
provision.
Member Klataske moved for approval of Horsetooth Overall Development, Second Amendment.
Member Strom seconded the motion.
Chair Clements reminded the Board that it has a condition regarding the operation of the car
wash and a variance to Point Chart J and the findings would need to be stated that the car
-wash of -similar or- like use. - - -- - -- --
Member Klataske made a motion as stated by Chair Clements.
Member Fontane seconded the motion.
Member Cottier asked if we could clarify that the car was is not a self -serve one.
Mr. Shepard said this was an important issue and for clarification purposes should be made part
of the preliminary PUD, requiring the active participation of the store clerk and not a 24 hour
self -serve.
Mr. Eckman asked for clarification if the motion contained a finding that the one -day
automatic car wash was like or similar character, includes the variance and condition in the
staff report.
Member Klataske said that is correct.
Member Strom agreed.
Motion passed 5-0.
Member Cottier moved for approval of Silver Oaks Paired Housing Preliminary.
Member Fontane seconded the motion.
Motion passed 5-0.
Item 21 - Boston Chicken PUD - Preliminary. #79-93.
Ms. Whetstone read the staff report. She presented to the Board several letters that had arrived
today concerning the access issue, and revised conditions of the staff report.
Mr. Ed Zdenek - ZTI Group - Made comments regarding the positive aspects that it is an inf ill
development. He went to great length in describing the layout and design with corresponding
drawings, siting sidewalk and open green space, buffering parking with berming, and ingress
and egress accesses to the property.
There was lengthy discussion among Board members, staff, Rick Ensdorff of Transportation
and the developer concerning specifically the ingress and egress points accessing the
development. There are potential accesses to neighboring properties (medical office park and
a church site) and future planning for these accesses seemed appropriate. Also there was the
issue of a stop on the southern border, more planning for parking layout and additional
landscaping.
Traffic flows from one business to the next were examined as were placement of access traffic
and flow design circulation. There are 49 spaces, above City standards, for parking.
There will be areas for seating inside the restaurant as well as a drive -through.