HomeMy WebLinkAboutFOSSIL CREEK DESIGN CENTER PUD - 94-88A - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESPLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING
FEBRUARY 27, 1989
MINUTES
The meeting began in Council Chambers at 6:32 p.m. Members present included,
Laurie O'Dell, Frank Groznik, Sandy Kern, Dave Edwards, Jim Klataske, Lloyd
Walker and Rex Burns. Staff was represented by Tom Peterson, Joe Frank,
Sherry Albertson Clark, Ken Waido, Glenn Schleuter, Mike Herzig, Paul
Eckman, and Kayla Ballard.
Ms. Clark reviewed the Consent Agenda which consisted of: (1) Minutes of the
January 23 and January 30, 1989 meetings, (2) #95-81H, Seven Lakes PUD,
Phase II - Preliminary and Final, (3) #13-82AO, Oakridge Business Park, 12th
Filing - Preliminary; (4) #53-84G Warren Farms, 3rd Filing - Preliminary
Subdivision; (5) #53-85W Centre for Advanced Technology 13th Filing -Final;
(6) #107-88 Revisions to the Subdivision Regulations - Minor Subdivisions; (7)
#5-89, A New Notc Partnership First Annexation and Zoning; (8) #6-89, A New
Note Partnership Second Annexation and Zoning; (9) 07-89, A Koldeway
Annexation and Zoning; (10) #9-89, A Nelson Annexation and Zoning; (11)
#3-89, A Fort Collins Industrial and Technical Park Venture First Annexation
and Zoning; (12) #4-89, A Fort Collins Industrial and Technical Park Venture
Second Annexation and Zoning; (13) #10-89, A Skyvicw Ltd. Annexation and
Zoning.
Mr. Peterson reviewed the Discussion Agenda which consisted of: (14) #1-888
Gateway at Harmony Road PUD - Preliminary; (15) #52-80I Valley Forge PUD
- Amended Final; (16) #94-88A Fossil Creek Design Center PUD - Final; and
(17) #1-89, A Ridge Annexation and Zoning. He noted that Item #5 would be
continued to the March 27 meeting. He asked that Items #11 and #12 be
moved to the Discussion Agenda.
Member Edwards perceived a conflict on Items #2 and #3.
Member Kern asked that the minutes be corrected. as he did not state he
thought the project should be a neighborhood convenience center.
Member Groznik moved to approve Items #1, #4, #6, #10 and #13. Member
Kern seconded the motion. The motion to approve passed 7-0.
Member Klataske moved to approve Items #2 and #3. Member Walker
seconded the motion. The motion to approve passed 6-0, Member Edwards did
not participate.
Member O'Dell stated that the Board would discuss Items #7, #8, and #9 at
the March 6 meeting.
Mr. Herzig stated medians were standards in arterials and were paid for by
street oversizing fees. He said that since there were no medians now, the
developer would be reimbursed.
Motion to approve with conditions passed 7-0.
VALLEY FORGE PUD
Ted Shepard, project planner, gave a brief description of project.
Mark Kirsting, Young Electric Sign Co., stated the reasons for the signage
request. He said the additional lighting would add safety and creation of a
more friendly atmosphere for the children. He noted the lights in the awning
would not be on after the end of the business day, approximately 6:30 p.m. or
7:30 p.m.
Ray Gray, also with Young Electric Sign Co., representing Children's World,
stated the lighting would be diffused and focused on the walkway. He said
the sign would be illuminated from 6 a.m. to 7 a.m. and then from dusk to 7
p.m., being off during the day. He said the sign sets out from the building
24", and would not interfere with the architectural design of the building.
Mr. Shepard presented the staff report in which staff was recommending denial
as it was an intrusion into the Brown Farm residential area.
Member Walker asked if the issue was illumination.
Mr. Shepard replied that the old sign was unlit and that the issue was
illumination.
Mike Moog, resident, believed signage was similar to something found on
College Avenue. He did not think it was compatible, as several yards face the
center and would be affected by the light.
Marie Munn, resident, agreed the sign should be denied and noted that there
was a high intensity light there now.
Pat Marsh, resident, asked that the project be denied.
Member Walker moved to deny the project due to the illumination. Member
Groznik seconded the motion. Motion passed 7-0.
FOSSIL CREEK DESIGN CENTER
Sherry Albertson Clark, project planner, gave a brief description of the project.
She stated that staff recommended continuation to the March 27 Board meeting
and the applicants requested continuance to the March 6 meeting.
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Ken Goff, representing the owner, asked if it was appropriate to do the whole
presentation at this time.
Chairperson O'Dell believed it was appropriate to discuss the potential for
continuance and dates. She noted that the continued items would be heard on
March 6 and the next regular meeting would be on March 27.
Mr. Goff stated he would like to be heard on the 6th. He stated that the
Board had reviewed the preliminary plan. It was approved contingent upon
drainage issues being addressed. They met with the neighborhood. He noted
the Board had additional concerns regarding building height. He said that
there was an additional neighborhood meeting. Several residents had concerns
regarding the height of the building and entrance detail and the phasing of
the project. He noted that they have made several modifications, primarily to
Iower the building. They have also reduced the height in the entrance detail
and screened the loading area in Phase 1. He said that the screen would be
temporary, as Phase Two would screen the area permanently.
He said a problem arose in regard to an eastern access point on an approved
plat for property south of this site. In their preliminary plan, they showed the
road being brought diagonally across their property. It adjoined Snead Drive
at that point. Staff had concerns about the connection of Snead Drive and
Fossil Creek Drive and safety factors in regard to this connection. He said
another concern was the catch basin which would contain their drainage water
in a culvert that was designed as a linear catch basin. In reviewing this, it
was decided that it needed to be redesigned to function better. He noted that
the Development Agreement needed to be signed as does an agreement with the
neighbor to the south to create easements required to do construction of the
drainage area and connection to Snead Drive. He believed the items could be
resolved in a matter of days, hence the request to be heard on March 6.
Chairperson O'Dell asked if the catch basin originally needed to be redesigned.
Mr. Goff replied yes. He said they designed an inlet to contain water from
their property and Snead Drive. He said it then would be contained in a
concrete culvert and carried under Fossil Creek Parkway when it was built.
He said the concrete catch basin at the south property line, as originally
designed, would not be adequate, necessitating redesign. He said the Board was
given plans with Snead Drive as proposed, but because they had no chance to
develop this. The neighborhood was not aware of this, they did not wish to
include it as part of their proposal. It was taken off and added to another set
of documents with the request that they be approved without the road were
submitted. He said they would then go back to the neighborhood and come to
an agreement as to where the road would be.
Chairperson O'Dell asked if that portion would be an amendment to the final.
Mr. Peterson stated yes, it would be an amendment.
Mr. Goff stated it was a landscaped 12' area that was about 2' in the middle.
He noted on the site plan where it would be located.
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Member Walker asked how the drainage from the roofs and pavement would be
handled.
Mr. Goff stated the drainage would be to the back of the building and
contained in curb and gutter in Snead Drive to the outlet and to catch basin.
He said an additional catch basin would be designed to catch overflow. The
drainage from the parking lot would go to the detention area, contained in the
concrete structure, then to the swale and continue north to Fossil Creek
Parkway.
Member Groznik asked if one week was enough time to get the information
required to the staff for review and on to the Board.
Mr. Peterson believed the concerns were with storm drainage and thought the
plans could be submitted and reviewed in time for the Board. He said the
Board would have the staff recommendation by Friday.
Michael Griffith, the attorney for Fossil Creek H.O.A., stated that they had
lined up speakers for tonight's meeting and that they would have conflicts on
the following Monday.
Lynn Block, resident, stated the Planning Department told her at 3 p.m., that
this item was still on the agenda.
Chairperson O'Dell stated the Board had received a letter dated the 27th, but
there was no indication of the time it was received.
Member Groznik did not wish to come to the meeting and find the applicant
was not prepared or the plans had not been reviewed, nor would he want the
neighborhood group to bring up issues which were not brought up at the
neighborhood meeting. He would favor a continuance to the next regular
meeting.
Chairperson O'Dell was concerned about the way Snead Drive was depicted and
wanted the question of Snead Drive resolved. She would also like to see this
project at the next regular meeting.
Member Burns asked if there are casements and right-of-way agreements that
needed to be drawn up.
Mr. Goff replied yes.
Member Burns believed that there were a large number of things to work out.
At the December meeting the applicant had not resolved these things and now,
two months later, they were still unresolved. He believed that the project
should be continued until March 27.
Member Groznik moved to continue this project to the March 27 meeting.
Member Walker seconded the motion. Motion passed 7-0.
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