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Home My WebLink AboutTOWNHOMES AT TIMBER CREEK PUD - PRELIMINARY - 16-89N - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING• NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING MINUTES PROJECT: Townhomes at Timbercreek P.U.D. DATE: January 20, 1999 APPLICANT: Dave Brown, Kern Homes and Bueno Development Stan Everitt, Everitt Companies CONSULTANTS: Brad Massey, Aller-Lingle Architects Tricia Kroetch, Northstar Engineering PLANNER: Ted Shepard The meeting began with a description of the proposed project. The project consists of 68 townhomes on 5.12 acres located at the northeast corner of Timberline Road and Timber Creek Drive. The townhomes would be divided among 26 three -bedroom units and 42 two -bedroom units. All units would have a one -car garage. Some garages would be attached to the units while others would be free-standing. The townhomes would be on individually platted lots with a master association to maintain common open space, parking lot and drives. Until these lots are platted, the current legal description is Tract B, Timber Creek P.U.D., First Filing. Unless otherwise noted, all responses are from the applicants or consultants. QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS 1. I live in the single family homes directly to the south. How high will these townhomes be? Will there be windows looking out directly over my backyard? Will these units be similar in height to the rest of the neighborhood? A: The units will be two -stories in height similar to the single family homes in the neighborhood. The height will be about 26 feet above grade. There will be two roof pitches for variety. The main roof will feature a 5:12 pitch while the dormers will feature 8:12 pitch. The number of windows facing south onto the backyards of existing homes has been minimized by design to preserve as much privacy for the existing homes as possible. 2. Will you put in mature landscaping? A: Yes, the City will require that deciduous shade trees be a minimum of two inches in caliper and ornamental trees be no less than 1.5 inches in caliper. Evergreen trees are required to be a minimum of six to eight feet in height and all shrubs must be no less than J five gallons in size. When these plants first go in, they look pretty small and it takes a few growing seasons to get established. Any plant material that dies must be replaced or we will be in violation of the P.U.D. 3. What about the trees along the perimeter? A: This will be an important component the P.U.D. in order to establish an attractive transition between the existing homes and the proposed townhomes. A mix of deciduous and evergreen trees are planned along the perimeter. We need to be careful not plant trees in the drainage swales. 4. What about drainage? Your project looks fairly dense with a lot of roofs and hard surface. Where will all the water go? Will our homes be impacted? A: The drainage plan for Tract B of Timber Creek First Filing was accounted for in the earlier plans for the single family homes. The stormwater from this project will drain into a network of swales to the stormwater detention pond located downstream to the southeast. We are not allowed to drain north into the existing ditch. We are not allowed by the City to impact any adjacent homes. About two-thirds of the project will drain south onto Timbercreek Drive and then into the existing storm drainage inlets. The other one-third will drain east into the Pole Pine Court cul-de-sac, then east to an existing storm drainage inlet. According to our original drainage study for the subdivision, the existing streets, inlets and stormwater detention pond have the capacity to accept this new drainage. Will the conveyance channel into Pole Pine Court be an open swale or enclosed pipe? A: At this time, we are planning for an open swale. 6. I have a concern about your drainage plan. I live on Lot Three on Timber Creek Drive. After a rainstorm, water backs up into my driveway. There appears to be too much water for the street and inlet system. This water stands and does not drain and blocks the sidewalk. After awhile, we get left with a mud/silt combination which we have to shovel. A: This does sound like a problem. We will look into whether the inlets and storm sewers are clogged. These systems may need to be "jetted -out." 7. What about erosion control during construction? I do not like to have mud tracked off construction sites and onto our neighborhood streets. A: This is a legitimate concern. As a rule Bueno Development works with our sub- contractors to keep this from happening but, as you can guess with a construction site, it is not always possible. We usually put down some gravel or roadbase at the construction C J 0 site entrance so mud is not tracked directly onto the pavement. Erosion control is required by the City's Stormwater Department and public streets required to be kept clean by the City's Engineering Department. Please call us if there is a problem. 8. Will there be any brick on the units? A: We do not know yet. 9. What about the roof? What kind of roofing material will be used? A: We expect to use a high -profile, "shadowline" asphalt/fiberglass shingle. 10. Will there be a separate homeowner's association for this project? A: Yes, there will be a separate sub -association for just the townhomes but it will be under the overall master association for the Timber Creek neighborhood. This sub - association will have proportional representation in the master association and will participate in the obligation to maintain common areas and greenbelts. 11. Why not stub a street connection to the north and tie into the Poudre Valley Hospital future loop road? It looks like you are dumping too much traffic onto Timber Creek Drive. A: It is our understanding that this loop road is to be a private drive. We will discuss this with the City's traffic engineer. Please be cautioned, however, that if this connection is made, travel is two-way and it may bring in more traffic as well from the hospital campus. This is similar to the situation at Parkwood East Apartments where neighborhood traffic was cutting through a private parking lot to get to public streets like Riverside Drive and Prospect Road. Our internal streets are private and we are not sure how mixing public and private traffic will work. 12. It looks like you need more green space. The project looks dense. You need more elbow room. 13. I find it difficult to believe that the Level of Service at the Timberline Road/Timber Creek intersection will be "C" as stated in the traffic impact study. My experience is that turning left to go south on Timberline is delayed will only get worse. A: This is the intersection of an arterial and collector. As such, it will be eligible for a signal when warranted. 14. The project appears to be dense. Is this level of density allowed or do you need some kind of variance? A: Our density is about 13 dwelling units per acre, as calculated on a gross acreage basis. This density is allowed under the Land Development Guidance System if you score more than 100 points of the Residential Uses Point Chart which we think we do. You are allowed 10 dwelling units per acre and up if you score over 100 points so we are within the guidelines for density. 15. I am concerned about the building closest to my house at the entry. Could you delete this building? It appears very close to my side yard property line. It looks like I'll be "boxed -in." A. We have maintained a 30 foot setback from your side yard. Why don't we stake this building in the field so you can get a feel for where it will sit? 16. What is your timeframe for construction and occupancy? A: We expect a plan review process of two to three months after we submit. Then, we expect to break ground for overlot grading in July or August. Then, we hope to build out the project as soon as possible depending on the market. We may phase the project in terms of street construction so we may build the west half first and east half second. 17. What is the price range for the townhomes? A; We are targeting the units to start at $115,000. 18. Will there be second floor decks looking over our backyards? A: No. 19. Are you thinking about a perimeter fence? A: No, we would rather not fence the perimeter. We would rather landscape the perimeter and try to blend in with the neighborhood. We recognize that some of the adjacent homes have fences while some do not. That, of course, will always be an option for our neighbors but, at this time, we are not thinking about a privacy or security perimeter fence. 20. Will you be installing an entry sign at your street entrance? If you did, you could balance the existing entry sign. A: This is a good idea. That way, the private drive intersection with Timber Creek Drive is balanced with attractive signage. 21. Would you match the existing brick and stone? A: Yes, it would be our intention to match the existing quality of the sign. y NEIGHBORHOOD OR-MATION MEET-*G Did Youaeceive Written NotlGc�tion of this meeting? orrcct ,address. Name - Address Zip - _ Yes No Yes So 17 � ��rr � �� II � � �7L-e �as►d / � �I . ZAJ q101 Smellweged I i