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PLANNING & ZONING BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
November 1, 1993
Garry Horak, Council Liaison
Ton Paterson, Staff Support Liaison
The November 1, 1993, meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was
called to order at 6:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall
West, 300 Laporte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado. Board members
present included Vice Chair Jan Cottier, Jennifer Fontane, Bernie
Strom, Lloyd Walker, and Sharon Winfree. Chair Rene Clements and
Jim Klataske were absent.
Staff members present included Planning Director Tom Peterson,
Deputy City Attorney Paul Eckman, Sherry Albertson -Clark, Ted
Shepard, Mike Herzig, Kerrie Ashbeck, Carolyn Worden and Kayla
Ballard.
CONSENT AGENDA
ITEM 25 - NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY - #67-93.
Mr. Peterson said this was the most significant item to come before
the Board from the Land Development Guidance System audit in 1990.
He stated that the audit dealt with issues of how determination of
compatibility and PUDs in neighborhoods are evaluated. He said
over the past 18 months, a team of citizens, staff and consultants
have been working very hard to look at this issue. He concluded
that this is a significant milestone accomplished for the LDGS and
the results are good.
Chief Planner Sherry Albertson -Clark said this has been a joint
effort between staff, the consultants, and advisory committee. The
consultant team of Linda Ripley of Ripley Associates and Bob
Komives of Fort Collins and Marty Zeller of Design Workshop out of
Denver have been working with us since December of 1991 on this
project. She stated early on a volunteer advisory committee was
formed of approximately 14 members, some are present at this
meeting, as well as the consultants involved, and will be happy to
answer any questions the Board may have. She said compatibility
criteria were evaluated; and two specific areas of recommendation
evolved: (1) changes to the "All Development Criteria" and (2) a
set of recommendations that deal with "Process". She said this was
arrived at by having a significant amount of citizen involvement
[interviews with focus groups-- roundtable discussion (bringing
focus members together) --the advisory committee was then formed].
Planner Clark said there were two community workshops held early
on, to get a sense from the citizen standpoint, where this project
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ITEM 27. ROCK CREEK PUD - OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN
Planner Shepard gave the staff report.
Eldon Ward - Cityscape Urban Design - He submitted several
development proposals to be presented at the same time to give a
larger picture of overall development in the area. His slide
presentation to the Board included defining the character of the
neighborhood at the entrances, street-scape treatment, collector
street options, parking courts, school site, drainage, utilities,
open space with greenbelts, Wildwood single-family area, Union
Pacific railroad tracks, 3-units to the acre, solar requirements,
inclusion of multi -family units, etc. He presented a map
designating the ODP plan. He said that Stan Everitt, applicant,
was available for questions.
Vice Chair Cottier asked Mr. Ward to explain the different colors
on the map.
Mr. Ward explained they represented lot sizes and types of density
(light yellow--65-75 feet in width; cream 75-80 feet width; red --
multi -family; dark yellow --patio homes, future phases). There will
be a variety of different single family areas.
PUBLIC INPUT.
Gary Putnam - property owner of 3-acres south of the project site -
He was concerned about the integrity of the area, rural character,
irrigation water runoff, existing trees 10-15 years maturity,
wildlife on the property. He asked the Board to consider a buffer
area in the form of an alley, stone fence, buffer, ditch, etc. A
map was referred to locating his property. He stated no one has
talked to him about the development.
Bill Slimak- 2522 East County Road 36 - His property joins the ODP
area in the extreme southeast corner. His concerns were of
traffic, specifically Timberline and Harmony Road intersection (90%
of the traffic comes south on Timberline with no left turn, history
of accidents); storm retention areas and drainage needs detailed
plans; supported development of bicycle path systems, has over 600
trees with wildlife (offered a ditch be located on the south border
as a buffer).
Shawn Hoff - Lot One on the Blehm Subdivision - He has been
resident since 1975 and uses the irrigation ditch to water
properties. He proposed the realignment of the ditch along the
south border to act as a buffer. He mentioned his concern of legal
questions regarding water. He said no one has contacted him for
neighborhood planning.
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Joe Minkey - 2312 East County Road 36, Lot 3 - He was in favor of
the suggested realignment of the ditch on the south border of the
development or double fencing, vegetation to be non -toxic to
livestock and unable to propagate either by seed or root. His
concern is for the agricultural use directly meeting the urban uses
proposed.
Helen Bomm - 2424 East County Road 36 - Blenm Subdivision - She
agreed with what her neighbors have said. Her concern was the
preservation of the existing agriculture rights, separation from
the subdivision, and asked the Board to reconsider how this
subdivision is being developed.
Dean Olsen - a neighbor to Mr. Putnam in the Sheller Subdivision -
He stated he had never been contacted in regard to these issues and
had a desire to meet with the developers to discuss the plans in
more detail.
PUBLIC INPUT CLOSED.
Vice Chair Cottier asked Planner Shepard several questions
regarding: (1) proper notification, (2) drainage situation, (3)
appropriate buffers on the south location of the property, and (4)
planning policies concerning UGA rural developments.
Planner Shepard stated (1) two letters were sent regarding this
meeting to the residents, (2) he referred the Board to Mike Herzig
on traffic and drainage detention issues, and (3) and (4) he stated
that for development along the fringe of the city; staff has tried
to maintain 3-dwelling units per acre. Blehm Subdivision has 6.5-
acre lots and the proposed development plan needs more finalizing
since it is in the preliminary stage.
Mike Herzig, engineer, stated there have been planning meetings
regarding the Timberline Road improvements, consultants have been
working on preliminary plans, and the Poudre Valley Hospital has
been involved. Development agreements for Timberline will be made
after the final plans are created. He mentioned that the drainage
issue needs more information, also requirements of appropriate
agencies and will be addressed in the final stages of the project.
Mr. Peterson stated that the drainage relocation as a buffer along
the south border of the development is an excellent suggestion and
staff will look into this possibility.
Mr. Ward commented on detention areas. He reported that
preliminary plans have been submitted to the City and his firm has
been working with the Storm Drainage Utility and Natural Resources
since last April. He reported the plan is for the drainage to
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remain in the existing alignment and undisturbed as little as
possible, but realignment may be possible. Standards will control
drainage run-off.
Mr. Ward also commented on Timberline Road improvements, those
improvements would be required with the first phases of
development.
Mr. Ward discussed issues concerning density of 3 units to the
acre. He referred to the amount of open space planned to be kept
in its natural state.
Member Strom asked about the width of the ditch.
Mr. Ward said the minimum standard width to conform to storm
drainage was 54-56 feet in the Master Plan. The developers are
keeping the allowance 70-100 feet so the grading can be varied.
Moving the ditch has not been looked into in any detail.
Member Winfree asked about lot depth bordering large lot
developments and buffering between existing subdivisions.
Mr. Ward replied that 105- to 110- foot lots were proposed for the
lots adjacent to the southern border. He commented there is no
common area, given space constraints, that fencing it would be less
of an impact than a walkway or greenbelt of common maintenance.
Member Winfree asked Planner Shepard what date the neighborhood
meeting was held.
Planner Shepard stated there was no neighborhood meeting held for
this project, and the decision was made on the fact that it is
residential next to residential, the lowest density that is allowed
in the City of Fort Collins and still meets policy, that out on the
fringe of the City mixed density use is desirable. Staff believes
residential next to residential is compatible at the preliminary
stage.
Member Winfree asked for clarification of the two letters sent to
the neighbors.
Planner Shepard stated that this project was originally scheduled
for the September P & Z Board meeting and was continued to the
October meeting.
Member Walker asked for more information on the southern border,
specifically the 20-foot sewer variance and options for buffering.
Planner Shepard said an option for buffering could be a street.
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Member Walker asked staff regarding specific drainage of the
existing system through the site.
Mr. Peterson said that the drainage is part of a major regional
system, McClelland's drainage area and it does move water from the
west to the east, plans are for it to handle more water.
Vice Chair Cottier asked for comment.
Member Walker commented on the ODP. He thought some of the design
in the upper portion is well done and said the southern border is
a critical issue. He felt that it is not quite accurate to say
there is residential meeting residential, when one is being
utilized as agricultural. Neighborhood compatibility offers
transition, here there remains a stark difference. He felt the
drainage needed to be explored in the buffering capacity. He
stated he would like the neighbors to be brought into the process.
Member Winfree stated that neighbors should be brought into the
process as early as possible and ideas discussed with the
developer. She felt there were many fine things about the ODP, but
the neighborhood input cannot be overlooked as part of the process.
Member Strom suggested that the ODP does not dictate the solutions
at the south edge. He felt the ODP was acceptable and more
detailed exploration can be made at a later date.
Member Fontane stated agreement that the ODP, without the
mitigation to the south, is well presented and that solutions can
be made specifically for details within the plan without delay of
the acceptance of the ODP.
Member Walker had a concern that the ODP would not necessarily
address the finer issues and asked for staff comment.
Mr. Peterson believed the entire ODP did not have to be redone to
meet specific concerns. He recognized work needs to be
accomplished and re -thinking of drainage and density. He advised
caution to be careful about decisions on density requirements.
There is no significant change in the ODP.
Vice Chair Cottier agreed and asked Mr. Ward to comment.
Mr. Ward summarized he would recommend that the Board would approve
the ODP and require specific buffering interface and design detail
along the south border of the development. He was regretful that
the two projects were submitted together because it may delay the
progress of the northern development of Hillside by the Everitt
Companies.
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Vice Chair Cottier had some questions concerning the ditch.
Mr. Peterson admitted the ditch looked inadequate for function,
requested the opportunity to look at Tract D.
Vice Chair Cottier appreciated the attempt of the developers to try
to offer a density mix, and felt the project acceptable.
Member Walker felt the density on the southern interface is
adequate but wanted buffering explored and favored the general
density of the ODP.
Attorney Eckman stated if the motion is to deny the ODP, it would
be his recommendation that the person who makes the motion would
also include the provisions of the Comprehensive Plan, not the
LDGS.
Member Fontane moved to recommend approval of the Overall
Development Plan of the Rock Creek PUD.
Member Strom seconded the motion.
Motion passed 5-0.
ITEM 28 - HILLSIDE AT ROCK CREEK PUD - PRELIMINARY #16-89C
Member Strom moved to accept the Hillside at Rock Creek Preliminary
PUD.
Member Fontane seconded the motion.
Motion passed 5-0.
ITEM 29 - BROOKSIDE VILLAGE AT ROCK CREEK PUD - PRELIMINARY #16-89E
Member Fontane requested that the staff, developer and neighbors
get together before any further plans are developed. She said the
storm water and ditch plans need to be explored.
Member Walker asked what is the best approach to solving this
situation.
Vice Chair Cottier felt it was appropriate for the Board to
recommend a neighborhood meeting.
Mr. Peterson commented that a motion could be made to request this
item back onto the agenda on a specific date, November 15 or
December 13.