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Response to City Comments
RE: Original City Staff Comments for the LDS Temple, PDP120029, Including Temple Design
Team Response to City Comments
The following is the LDS Temple Design Team/Applicant response to of City comments made by staff and
outside reviewing agencies related to the November 7, 2012 LDS Temple submittal.
Comment Summary:
Department: Current Planning
Contact: Courtney Levingston, 970-416-2283, clevingston@fcgov.com
Topic: Building Elevations
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/14/2012
11/14/2012: It would appear as though to the top of the "painted fiberglass statute" is about 112
feet. That seems quite high given the context of the surrounding neighborhoods as it relates to
compatibility with the surrounding land uses. Section 3.5.1(G)(4) speaks to compatibility and
neighborhood scale in this manner. It may be difficult for staff to find compliance with Section
3.5.1 as proposed as it appears out of scale with the neighborhood and community. At the next
round of review, Staff suggest providing exhibits comparing the height of the proposed
structure with other tall structures in the community (the Key Bank building, for example).
Response: The height of the temple’s steeple is a direct derivative of the buildings’ proportions
which are sympathetic to the Romanesque design of many prominent and historic buildings in the
area. It has a robust proportioning appropriate to that of Romanesque buildings. In comparison to
other religious facilities, including most other Latter-day Saint temples, the height to width ratio of
this steeple is minimal, which means that the height was kept to a relative minimum in comparison
to what was felt to be an appropriate width . This ratio very nearly approaches that of the golden
mean.
The proportions begin with the relationship to the building below. The base of the steeple is a tool
which visually transfers vertical loads from the tower into the supporting structure of the lower
building. The visual transfer of a structure’s gravity loads is essential in classical design. The base
makes a physical connection to the building below then tapers back to the pedestal of the steeple.
The main mass of the steeple pick up on vertical lines from the building below setting the mark for
its overall width. The steeple terminates in a steeply sloped eight sided gabled roof, also a
characteristic of Romanesque buildings, and is capped by a statue which is essential to the
buildings religious purposes.
Emphasis was placed in the design process to view the steeple from actual human perspective and
to think beyond that which can potentially be misleading in two-dimensional elevations. Sensitivity
was paid to ensure that elements viewed in elevation would actually be observed in human
perspective and not be obscured when experienced in built form. Elements were scaled to the
human perspective but not to exceed that which was necessary to perform its visual role. Particular
attention was paid to the height of the base of the steeple. With the tower’s deep setback from the
sides of the building, this element which is critical to the visual support of the steeple would all but
disappear behind the parapet walls if it did not extend to a critical height. Once the base extended
to a height appropriate for a visual connection it was capped. The steeple was viewed often in the
design process from street perspectives to determine the minimal acceptable mass that would be
appropriate to a building mass.
Beyond aesthetic appropriateness, the interior volume of the steeple plays a critical role in housing
the mechanical conditioning systems of the building. A vertical air handler fills the interior space of
this structure. Any reduction to the size of the tower could potentially require additional building
floor area to relocate this unit.
It should be noted that the mass of the steeple is significantly minimized above the ridge of the
sidewall gables at 87’. Beyond this point the roof tapers down to a single point and is capped by a
statue with minimal mass. All efforts have been made to present a design that is architecturally
tasteful, respectful to existing and future neighbors, and that is accommodating to its religious
purposes.
Please refer to Sheet A.8 for perspectives from critical viewing points surrounding the LDS Temple
site.
Comment Number: 2 Comment Originated: 11/14/2012
11/14/2012: I do not see the trash enclosures on the elevations. Please include and note
materials and the trash enclosure should be on a concrete pad. This can be done at time of
final plan submittal.
Response: Full elevations and construction details, including construction materials, will be
included in the final plan submittal. A full Architectural Materials Board will be prepared for all the
proposed structures on Lot 1 Block 1 and submitted to the City for review prior to the Planning and
Zoning Board Hearing.
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Comment Number: 3 Comment Originated: 11/20/2012
11/14/2012: Please provide bike rack detail on elevations. Bicycle parking should allow the
bicycle frame and both wheels to be securely locked to the parking structure. The structure
shall be of permanent construction such as heavy gauge tubular steel with angle bars
permanently attached to the pavement foundation. Fixed bicycle parking facilities shall be at
least 2 feet in width and 5 1/2 feet in length, with additional back-out or maneuvering space of at
least 5 feet. This can be submitted at time of Final Plan.
Response: The bike parking area on the site plan has been enlarged to provide 2’ of space, side to
side, for each bike, and this revision is included with the preliminary submittal. Bike rack
details/elevations will be provided with the final plan submittal.
Department: Current Planning
Contact: Courtney Levingston, 970-416-2283, clevingston@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/14/2012
11/14/2012: The build-to line modification request is not necessary due to exceptions to the
build-to line standards contained in Section 3.5.3(B)(3)(d). The formal garden/plaza area
between Timberline Road serves as an outdoor space in this respect and meets the exception
criteria.
Response: It is understood that a Modification of Standard is not required for the build-to- line.
Comment Number: 2 Comment Originated: 11/14/2012
11/14/2012: Lowering the 6 foot wrought iron fence could assist and reinforce meeting the
build-to line exception standard in Section 3.5.3(B)(3)(d). Woodward Governor has a similar 4
foot wrought iron security fence that meets security needs at the lower height. This lower height
would provide a better connection between the building and the street.
Response: A request to allow for the 6 foot high ornamental fence in the ”Front Yard” of the
Temple is included in this resubmittal based on a unique security need. The request is for the
“Front Yard” portion of the Temple security fence in order to allow the fence to be 6 foot high
between the east face of the Temple and the Majestic Drive ROW. This request to deviate from the
standard 4 foot allowed height is made based upon the unique security concerns of the LDS
Church and is based on the recommendations and analysis made by the Church’s Security Team.
The intent is to build a 6 foot high ornamental metal fence around the entire perimeter of the Temple
as shown on the site plan, SP.2 in order to insure a level of security needed by the Church. The 6
foot high metal fence has been redesigned so as to be more transparent as viewed from the public
ROW. A letter assessing the security issues for the Temple are outlined in an attachment from the
Church’s Security Assessment Team.
Response: The placement of the fence has been pulled back from the edge of sidewalk towards
the building and planted with shrubs on both the front and back side of the fence to minimize the
feel of a heavy metal fence. The elevation along both public streets drop down from the sidewalk
and then build up to a similar height as it approaches the building. This puts the fence starting at a
lower elevation than the sidewalk thus minimizing the feel that the fence is towering above the
pedestrians. The design of the fence has been revised from the original submittal and is a very
simple and transparent picket fence to fit in with the aesthetics of the building and does not create a
visual barrier.
Topic: Landscape Plans
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/20/2012
11/20/2012: On sheet LS1, (hydrozone) there is approximately a 50,000 square foot area along
Trilby that is included as very low water usage that is not part of the project boundary. Please
subtract this from the 92,803 square feet identified as very low water use on the water budget
chart and recalculate the totals/annual water usage. This can be updated at time of Final Plan.
Response: The area along Trilby Road has been removed from the calculations and the
Hydrozone Plan.
All calculations have been updated accordingly.
Comment Number: 2 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: There is a 160 foot street tree gap along Timberline Road and 145 foot street tree
gap along Majestic. The Land Use Code states in Section 3.2.1(D)(2)(a) that, "wherever the
sidewalk is separated from the street by a parkway, canopy shade trees shall be planted at 30
foot to 40 foot spacing in the center of all such parkway areas. Such street trees shall be
placed at least 8 feet away from the edges of driveways and alleys, and 40 feet away from any
streetlight and to the extent reasonably feasible, be positioned at evenly spaced intervals."
Canopy trees should be added in these areas to fill in the gaps. This will need to be updated
prior to going to Planning and Zoning Board.
Response: The referenced gaps in the street tree plantings have been filled in with canopy trees,
and all tree plantings coordinated with the appropriate spacing from city street lights, traffic signals,
intersections, and driveways.
Comment Number: 3 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: The intersection of Trilby and Timberline is signalized and the canopy trees need
to be spaced 40 feet from the streetlight per LUC Section 3.2.1(K). At the non-signalized
intersections of Majestic and Trilby, there should be 20 foot on center spacing. Please update
prior to Planning and Zoning Board hearing.
Response: Street tree locations have been adjusted in accordance with the guidelines above.
Trees at non-signalized intersections have been moved back from stop signs in addition to the 20’
o.c. from the intersection.
Comment Number: 4 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: The interior of the parking lot features landscape islands with ornamental trees as
opposed to canopy trees. The intent of the standard was to provide comfort and visual relief.
While a case could be made that the generous ornamental plantings are in essence equal to
compliance with the standard, a formal modification request should be made.
As a friendly suggestion, modification requests should be submitted in the following format:
1. Standard at Issue: state the code section (text citation) you are requesting the modification
for.
2. Describe your modification request.
3. State a justification for the modification request based on the criteria outlined in Section 2.8.2
of the LUC and then go into the reasoning behind that selected criteria.
We would need this prior to hearing.
Response: A request for a Modification of Standard has been submitted along with this resubmittal
for consideration by City staff related to this LUC requirement.
Department: Current Planning
Contact: Courtney Levingston, 970-416-2283, clevingston@fcgov.com
Topic: Landscape Plans
Comment Number: 5 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: Please note the visual clearance standard in 3.2.1(D)(5)(a) as it relates to driver
sight dstance at driveway intersections with Majestic.
Response: Plantings have been adjusted to provide a visual clear zone at driveways to Majestic
Drive per Section 3.2.1(E)(5)(a), and a general note has been added to the plans requiring the
contractor to maintain this clearance.
Comment Number: 6 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: There is a bit of confusion with the plant species list (numbers) and what is shown
on the landscape plans. Please correct this upon resubmittal.
Response: Only tree quantities have been included for the preliminary submittal, and these
quantities have been checked to confirm that they accurately reflect what is shown on the plan. The
final plans shall also include the total quantity of Shrubs to be provided throughout the entire site
area.
Comment Number: 7 Comment Originated: 11/30/2012
11/30/2012: Irrigation plans must be submitted at time of final plan/building permit submittal.
Please see LUC 3.2.2(J)(3) for details on how to ensure you comply with the irrigation plan
requirements.
Response: Outlots A & B will be fully irrigated with an automatic underground irrigation system. An
irrigation plan will be included with the final submittal.
Topic: Lighting Plan
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please provide a lighting detail sheet for the proposed illumination of Angel
Moroni in addition to your 3.2.4 alternative compliance submittal. The intent of this Section is to
prohibit uplighting and to prevent an adverse effect on adjacent properties or the surrounding
neighborhoods. While uplighting is prohibited, the City of Fort Collins Land Use Code allows for
alternative compliance. By providing additional lighting detail, the extent to which the proposed
lighting of the steeple/Angel Moroni and the affects of the lighting will be evaluated while
considering the light source, level of illumination, hours of illumination and need for illumination
in relation to the potential negative impacts of the lighting on adjacent property owners and/or
the neighborhood.
Staff has compared the proposed uplighting with that of a City of Fort Collins Street Light and
suggests that the proposed uplighting be reduced so that the illumination levels are generally
equivalent. As currently proposed, the watts (26 x 4) is 104 where as one City street light is only
70 Watts. The lumens proposed are 8000 (2000 x 4) where as a City street light is 6300. The
Kelvins of the proposed lamp are 3000 and a City Street light is closer to 2500. In terms of
reflectivity, asphalt is not reflective at all where as the gold painted Angel Moroni is highly
reflective.
In so much, suggests a lower watt, and possibly a high-pressure sodium lamp due to its warm
appearance when looking to meet alternative compliance.
On the lighting plan update, please call out which fixture and the quantity will be used to light
the Angel Moroni.
This issue should be addressed prior to scheduling the Planning and Zoning Board hearing.
Response: In order to address the concerns of the City as it relates to the lighting of the Temple
Steeple a steeple lighting analysis has been prepared. City staff has referenced the proposed
lighting compared to a City street light. There are a few differences that should be noted when
comparing a single point source street light with accent lighting. The experience differs in the
following ways:
1.GLARE - A Street light offers very limited glare protection.
a.Street lights are highly visible single point sources by nature. If a viewer is within view of
the light, glare produced by the light source will be visible.
b.In the case of the proposed lights, it is intended that a viewer will see the effects of the
light on the object, but the light sources themselves will be hidden from view, therefore
producing very little, to no glare.
2.WATTAGE and LUMEN VALUE - City staff has referenced the proposed lighting compared to
a 70 Watt High Pressure Sodium City street light with 6,300 lumens.
a.The proposed lighting design uses (4) 26 watts lamps for a total of 104 watts and has (4)
2,000 lumens for a total of 8,000 lumens. It should be noted that only two uplights lighting
Angel Moroni will be visible from any angle because of the 360 degree angle of light
lighting the angel; therefore, there will be less visible light on Angel Moroni from any
viewing angle than the street light produces as a translucent light source.
b.While the above values hold true, the wattage and lumen values of the proposed sources
is a mute point because of the issue of glare mentioned above. What really should be
analyzed is the luminance (brightness) of both the street light and the proposed sources
(see below).
3.LUMINANCE VALUES – City staff did not mention the luminance values, but these should be
looked at because luminance relates directly to brightness and in turn, glare.
a.Luminance value of a 70 Watt High Pressure Sodium City street light: 12,000 CD/m2
(Candelas per square meter).
b.Luminance value of the proposed lights: 39.04 CD/m2.
c.The street lights will be 738 times brighter than the lit Angel Moroni statue. This is
because of what was described above in the GLARE section; a city street light is not
being lit; it is an actual source of light, which produces a tremendous amount of glare.
The Angel Moroni statue is a lit object, which will never be as bright as an actual light
source. See the prepared study of the proposed lighting provided with this submittal for
more information.
4.COLOR TEMPERATURE - The proposed lamps have a color temperature of 3000 Kelvin.
Whereas City Street light is closer to 2500, or lower.
a.3000 Kelvin was chosen to match the other lighting in association with the temple
structure. To choose a different color temperature would cause an inconsistent look and
feel to the different areas being illuminated.
b.If the city is concerned with the temple lighting having an inconsistent color temperature
with the city lights one possible option would be for the city to use the LED version of the
chosen street light. This would also provide added value of environmental and economic
payoff.
5. COLOR RENDERING INDEX (CRI) – The CRI of High pressure sodium lamps are
significantly different to the proposed LED Lamps
a.The high pressure sodium lamps being suggested have a CRI of 22. This means that
they are very poor in rendering differences in color. High pressure sodium lamps have
the worst CRI of all light sources available on the market today.
b.Light sources with a CRI between 80-100 tend to be considered acceptable sources of
quality light. The lights being proposed fit within this category.
Comment Number: 2 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Staff has determined that resubmittal and another formal round of review is
necessary prior to going to Planning and Zoning Board.
Response: A Steeple Lighting Analysis has been prepared with this resubmittal to allow for
necessary reviews prior to going to Planning and Zoning Board. Our revisions include the above
stated changes described in Comment Number 1 above.
Department: Engineering Development Review
Department: Engineering Development Review
Contact: Marc Virata, 970-221-6567, mvirata@fcgov.com
Topic: Construction Drawings
Comment Number: 9 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: The street design plans did not provide an ultimate design of Timberline Road
abutting the property (between Trilby Road and Rock Castle Lane) to ascertain how interim and
ultimate improvements are intended and how these improvements align across intersections.
Response: The demarcation of where interim and ultimate improvements begin and end has
been more clearly added to each plan and profile sheet. Specifically, with respect to the portion
of Timberline Road that is adjacent to the west boundary of the Temple property, interim and
ultimate build-out is one and the same with one exception; the ultimate condition west tree lawn
and sidewalk will not be constructed with this project. The ultimate west side of the parkway,
from the back of curb to the right-of-way, will be constructed per LCUASS two lane arterial
standard, if the City decides that the need arises in the future.
Comment Number: 10 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: The plan and profile sheets need to show indication that when tying into existing
roadways that the flowline/centerline grades shown on the drawings match to existing
centerline/flowline grades (such as on Sheet C17, extend existing profile grade to the west to
indicate that the existing grade is 3.81%.)\
Response: The centerline profiles of all proposed streets have been shown extended to
existing roadway centerlines and the proposed centerline grades have been labeled.
Comment Number: 11 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: Please ensure that signing and striping plan sheets do not split information across
intersections, the plan sheets need to have the complete intersection shown for verification of
alignment.
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Response: The street improvement plan and profile sheets have been updated to show
complete intersection design on one sheet, with matchlines at or beyond the outer point of
tangency of curb returns.
Comment Number: 12 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: Please label the plan and profile sheets in terms of stating that the profile lines are
centerline.
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Response: The centerline profiles have been labeled as such on the P & P sheets.
Comment Number: 13 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: 7.4.B.8 of the Larimer County Urban Area Street Standards requires offsite design
along Timberline Road to be continued 1,000 feet from the property.
Response: This comment has been addressed offline with Mr. Virata and in an email dated
December 6, 2012, Mr. Virata expressed that he was satisfied with the information presented in
order to go to hearing. More information will be shown during Final Design.
Comment Number: 15 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: The landscaped median within Majestic Drive will need to provide an underdrain
system underneath the median to mitigate subsurface water from the median irrigation. It
appears the proposed storm sewer crossing Majestic Drive can be utilized for this subdrain
system.
Response: A Majestic Drive median underdrain system has been added to the Overall Utility
sheet. This underdrain will connect to the southwest storm drain system and will adhere to
LCUASS standard detail 705a “Landscaping and Drain Details for Raised Medians”. Full design
details will be included in the FDP submittal.
Topic: General
Comment Number: 3 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: The use of enhanced crosswalks mid-block across Majestic Drive won't be
allowed and need to be removed. The use of enhanced crosswalks at the intersections of
Timberline Road and Trilby Road are acceptable (though not required), along with the
enhanced crosswalks that cross the private driveways. The enhanced crosswalks that cross the
private driveways should ideally be built in a manner that has the back of crosswalk correspond
to the right-of-way.
Response: The enhanced mid-block crosswalks have been removed from Majestic Drive. The
client would like to upgrade to the enhanced crosswalks at Majestic and Timberline and Majestic
and Trilby. These remain on the plans. The Temple driveway crosswalks have been moved to
align with the Right-of-Way.
Comment Number: 6 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: Majestic Drive's cross sectional width does not match the typical connector
standard in Larimer County Urban Area Street Standards (LCUASS) with wider sidewalk and
parkways than the standard requires. Please be aware that the additional sidewalk width (from
4.5' feet 5') will not be reimbursable by the City as would a typical 5' sidewalk on City
designated collector roadway.
Response: It is noted that the choice of the owner is to keep the wider improvements and
understood that the City’s standard reimbursements will apply as stated in the comment.
Department: Engineering Development Review
Contact: Marc Virata, 970-221-6567, mvirata@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 7 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: LCUASS 16.6.4 requires that a street crossing of greater than 56 feet requires the
construction of pedestrian refuge. This standard would require pedestrian refuge on Majestic
Drive at the Timberline Road intersection as well as Timberline Road at both the Trilby Road
and Majestic Drive intersections. In discussion with City transportation staff we've interpreted
that the median in Majestic Drive accomplishes the intent of the requirement even though the
median is not physically extended into the pedestrian crossing area. The lack of pedestrian
refuge island(s) on Timberline Road at both Trilby Road and Majestic Drive is left as an
unaddressed issue. City transportation staff can see the potential support for a variance for the
lack of a pedestrian refuge island on Timberline at Trilby due to the signalized intersection
allowing the timing of pedestrians to cross the intersection. For Timberline Road at Majestic
Drive the unsignalized nature of the intersection leaves potential support of a variance request
less clear. The present roadway design indicates that there is additional right-of-way behind the
proposed sidewalk such that the excess right-of-way could be utilized to provide pedestrian
refuge. The status on potential pedestrian refuge will need to be addressed prior to hearing.
Response: It is noted that the Majestic median at Timberline meets the intent and is
understood to remain as shown. We have submitted variance for both of the crossings
mentioned as outstanding. Please refer to the variance requests submitted by Delich &
Associates with this submittal.
Comment Number: 8 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: The southeast corner of Trilby Road and Timberline Road needs to be constructed
with split directional ramps for designating the westbound and northbound crossing
movements. A receiving ramp will also need to be added on the southwest corner of the
Trilby/Timberline intersection to receive the crossing movement (the proposed signal pole on
this corner may need to shift location as a result).
Response: Directional ramps have been added to all said corners on Timberline at the south
curb returns of Trilby. The light poles have also been moved to accommodate the ramps and
continue to satisfy the vehicular movements.
Comment Number: 16 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: Please coordinate the title of the plans to be consistent. The site plan and civil
construction plans share the same title, however the subdivision plat has a different title.
Response: Site plan, Utility plan and the Plat now have coordinated titles.
Topic: Plat
Comment Number: 2 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: The plat indicates that a 15' ditch easement and 10' irrigation easement are to be
vacated by the plat. Who are the owners of these easement interests that would be vacated?
They would need to be signatories on the plat approving the vacations.
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Response: The 15’ and 10’ irrigation easements are obsolete, as the stakeholders of those
easements have already received a valid recorded replacement easement along the north east
and east Lot 3 property lines that were recorded on the Leistikow M.R.D. Annexation Plat, which
currently contains the only legitimate irrigation delivery system physically capable of serving
those stakeholders. Thus, since the 15’ and 10’ obsolete easements were never dedicated to
any particular party, and being non-exclusive or non-prescriptive right-of-way, they now serve
no other stakeholder than the LDS Church and thus can be abandoned on the LDS Church Plat.
See pertinent note added on Plat.
Comment Number: 4 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: The dedicating of landscape easements to the City isn't required and should be
removed from the plat as their intent isn't understood.
Response: Noted and no reference for a City landscape easement remains on Plat.
Comment Number: 5 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: Please change the "emergency vehicle access" dedication to "emergency
access".
Response: The word “vehicle” has been removed from all “emergency access” easement
descriptions on Plat.
Comment Number: 14 Comment Originated: 11/19/2012
11/19/2012: Why is the right-of-way dedication along Timberline providing for a 1' area of
right-of-way behind the sidewalk instead of dedicating right-of-way to coincide with the back of
walk? To the extent possible, we would prefer to see right-of-way coincide with the back of
walk.
Response: The Right-of-Way on the east side of Timberline that is adjacent to the LDS Temple
site, is now located on the back of walk. The Right-of-Ways now shown on the Temple site all
coincide with the back of sidewalk.
Contact: Sheri Langenberger, 970-221-6573, slangenberger@fcgov.com
Department: Engineering Development Review
Contact: Sheri Langenberger, 970-221-6573, slangenberger@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/14/2012
11/14/2012: An additional $47.50 is due for the TDRF PDP fees for this project. This can be
paid at such time as Final fees are paid.
Response: The additional $ 47.50 will be paid at time of Final Plan submittal..
Department: Environmental Planning
Contact: Lindsay Ex, 970-224-6143, lex@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: A letter from the Army Corps of Engineers has been provided that indicates the
site's wetlands are not jurisdictional (dated October 30, 2012).
Comment Number: 2 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: As per the ECS, the site has 17,775 sq ft (or 0.41 acres) of wetlands within the
elevated lateral ditch. As these wetlands possess little ecological value, e.g., they are only 1-2'
wide in most places, and are only associated with the elevated ditch, the applicants have
proposed that the wetlands be mitigated on-site.
The applicants have proposed wetland mitigation within two bioswale/water quality areas at the
northeast and southwest corners of the site. Is there groundwater data to support the selection
of these sites and so the planting can be better tailored to the different groundwater levels
expected? Staff suggests installing piezometers to measure the groundwater in this area prior
to finalizing the mitigation sites.
In our discussion at staff review, it was indicated that the wetlands will largely be supported by
stormwater runoff from the site and not by groundwater. Success criteria will need to be
developed in the monitoring plan, see below, to address this.
Response: Please see Addendum to ECS for information regarding this comment.
When finalized, the areas proposed for mitigation should be labeled as "Natural Habitat Buffer
Zones' in compliance with Section 3.4.1 of the Land Use Code (in some places, I've seen them
labeled as Natural Area Mitigation Boundary, this should be changed to Natural Habitat Buffer
Zone). These labels should be applied to the site, landscape and utility plans. Note that no
lighting can spill over into these buffer zones.
Response: Labels have been coordinated and updated to match this language.
A mitigation and monitoring plan will be due at the time of final plans, if the PDP plans are
approved. The monitoring plan shall include a plan for three years of post-construction
monitoring, e.g., groundwater and plant success monitoring to achieve the success criteria that
will be established at the time of the Development Agreement.
Response: A mitigation & monitoring plan will be developed and submitted at time of Final Plan
submittal.
Department: Environmental Planning
Contact: Lindsay Ex, 970-224-6143, lex@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 3 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: The landscaping proposed in the wetland mitigation areas do not reflect the
recommendations from the Ecological Characterization Study. Please amend the species
selected or provide a justification for why the species proposed are more suitable. Or is this
just a mix-up in the symbols used on the detailed landscape pages?
In addition, more trees and shrubs should be added to these areas for increased vertical
diversity.
Response: The hatches have been adjusted so that the wetland mitigation and detention basin
plantings use different hatches from plants in the ornamental planting legend. Also, proposed tree
and shrub plantings have been added to the wetland areas selected from the species in Table 6 of
the Ecological Characterization Study.
Comment Number: 4 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: As per the ECS, the recommendations found on page 7 regarding the raptor nest
to the west of Timberline shall be a condition of this project's approval. In addition, the Siberian
elms on site shall be surveyed prior to construction for any raptor nests.
Response: Please see Addendum to ECS for information regarding this comment.
If a raptors nest is found during the pre-construction surveys, then a temporary Limits of
Development shall be applied in accordance with Section 3.4.1(N)(5) of the Land Use Code.
Response: It is understood that if a raptors nest is identified at the time of our pre-construction
survey that temporary limits of construction shall be applied in accordance to the City’s LUC.
Comment Number: 5 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: As a heads-up, staff is proposing an amendment to the Land Use Code that would
require mitigation of non-native trees, e.g., Siberian elms, if they are found to have habitat
value. Though the ECS suggests these species do not have value, I have observed raptors
perched on the trees and the trees certainly provide the only cover in this portion of the site.
Thus, staff would strongly encourage mitigation of these trees in the project's overall tree
mitigation plan. Adding the vertical diversity (trees and shrubs) into the wetland mitigation areas
will achieve this.
Response: The project team has agreed to add mitigation trees to the project planting plan in
anticipation of the Land Use Code amendment mentioned.
Comment Number: 6 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: The grading on the southwest mitigation area should undulate more to reflect a
more naturalistic mitigation area. The northeast mitigation area should do the same.
Response: The grading of this area has been revised to be more naturalistic in addition the
landscaping of this area has also been modified to reflect the changes in grading.
Comment Number: 7 Comment Originated: 11/30/2012
11/30/2012: In the updated ECS, please also reflect on how the lighting on the temple's tower
could or could not affect the area's bird populations.
Response: Please see Addendum to ECS for information regarding this comment.
Department: Forestry
Contact: Tim Buchanan, 970-221-6361, tbuchanan@fcgov.com
Topic: Landscape Plans
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please add a list on LP9 listing numbers by species of upsized mitigation trees.
On Sheet LP7 put an asterisk or foot note on species that are included for mitigation with an
explanation at the bottom of the page that says in effect- see sheet LP9 for upsized mitigation
tree numbers. Also on sheet LP9 identify what the abbreviations for Transplanted Trees is
BS=Blue Spruce and SP= Scotch pine.
Response: These notes and tables have been added to the referenced sheets.
Department: Forestry
Contact: Tim Buchanan, 970-221-6361, tbuchanan@fcgov.com
Topic: Landscape Plans
Comment Number: 2 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please add additional General notes:
Place trees and include in a note the tree utility separations found in 3.2.1 K 1-5 plus that trees
shall be placed at least 8 feet away from driveways and alleys. Forty feet between shade trees
and City streetlights. Fifteen feet between ornamental trees and streetlights. Twenty feet
between shad and /or ornamental trees and traffic control signs and devices. Ten feet between
trees and water or sewer mains. Six feet between trees and water or sewer service lines. Four
feet between trees and gas lines.
All plant material shall be to the most current AAN standard for Nursery stock number one
grade.
The soil in all landscape areas, including parkways and medians, shall be thoroughly loosened
to a depth of not less than 8 inches and soil amendment shall be thoroughly incorporated into
the soil of all landscape areas to a depth of at least six (6) inches by tilling, discing or other
suitable method, at a rate of at least three (3) cubic yards of soil amendment per one thousand
(1,000) square feet of landscape area.
A permit must be obtained from the City forester before any trees or shrubs as noted on this
plan are planted, pruned or removed on the public right-of-way. This includes zones between
the sidewalk and curb, medians and other city property. This permit shall approve the location
and species to be planted. Failure to obtain this permit may result in replacing or relocating
trees and a hold on certificate of occupancy.
The developer shall contact the City Forester to inspect all street tree plantings at the
completion of each phase of the development. All trees need to have been installed as shown
on the landscape plan. Approval of street tree planting is required before final approval of
each phase. Failure to obtain approval by the City Forester for street trees in a phase shall
result in a hold on certificate of occupancy for future phases of the development.
All trees shrubs and perennials and lawn areas will be irrigated with a permanent automatic
irrigation system.
Tree pruning or removal shall be performed by a City of Fort Collins Licensed arborist as
required by code.
Response: These general notes have been added to the enlarged planting plans.
Comment Number: 3 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Echoing Current Plannings comment, please provide a continuous row of street
trees along Trilby and Majestic.
Response: As noted earlier, the street tree plantings have been filled in along Timberline and
Majestic.
Department: Forestry
Contact: Tim Buchanan, 970-221-6361, tbuchanan@fcgov.com
Topic: Landscape Plans
Comment Number: 4 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Some cold hardiness issues have been observed in Sterling Silver Linden in Fort
collins by the Fort Collins Forestry Division. As a suggestion, Redmond Linden could be
considered as a substitution that has done well in Fort Collins.
Response: Sterling Silver Linden has been changed to Redmond Linden.
Comment Number: 5 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: What form of irrigation will be provided to trees planted in out lots A&B?
Response: This will be addressed in the final submittal.
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Comment Number: 6 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please include the existing tree analysis and matrix information as a landscape
sheet or other method. This is currently referenced on the landscape sheets and the Statement
of Planning Objectives to include location; species; size; condition; intent to remove; keep in
place or transplant. Each tree is assigned a number.
Response: The existing tree analysis and matrix has been re-sequenced to be included in the LS
landscape series sheets.
Comment Number: 7 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please review tree placement and selection for site distance and stop sign
clearance at entries and intersections. Staff will be providing the applicant some additional
comments on this.
Response: Tree locations have been adjusted at intersections to provide visual clearance. Trees at
the entries into the site have been adjusted to provide clear sight lines to stop signs.
Comment Number: 8 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please provide a detail of transplanted trees to include such things as, guying,
mulching and staking. Include notes about tree transplanting that addresses methods time of
year, tree spade size, post planting irrigation. The City Forestry Division can provide some
information on these items.
Response: This will be addressed in the final submittal.
Comment Number: 9 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Consider increasing the diversity of street trees used. These are some
suggestions to consider:
Along Trilby use three Chinkapin Oak in the middle of the row of Hackberry between the two
sidewalk entries to the project.
Response: Instead of adding three oak as suggested, we have added two--one on either side of
the crossing ramp on Trilby to differentiate that connection. By way of information, the trees along
Trilby have been changed to Accer x freemaniis ‘Jefersred’ for greater fall color at the request of the
client.
Along Majestic west of the west entrance to the parking lot consider using Chinkapin Oak in
place of Honeylocust. This is the area between Timberline and the west entrance to the lot.
Response: Chinkapin Oak has been added to the planting plan in the area indicated.
Along Timberline just to the south of Majestic consider the use of Kentucky Coffee Tree.
Response: Kentucky Coffee Tree is too messy with seed pods to plant along a walkway. Have
chosen to keep the proposed oaks in place.
Comment Number: 10 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Consider using Fat Albert Blue Spruce at the corner beds in place of Black Hills
Spruce. It has excellent color and form and has much better availability. Its uniform shape
provides a nice formal effect.
Response: Agree with the comments about form and availability. However, based on all the
sources I have access to, Fat Albert Spruce tends to be a smaller tree than Black Hills, and will not
meet the design intent in some areas where it is proposed. That said, Fat Albert has been
introduced where it will not detract from the design intent in order to limit problems with availability.
Comment Number: 11 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please put a note by Bur Oak in the schedule on LP7 that says "Bullet Gall
Resistant Trees"
Response: This note has been added to the planting legend.
Department: Internal Services
Contact: Russ Hovland, ,
Topic: General
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/14/2012
11/14/2012: This A-3 Occupancy is too large for V-B wood non-rated construction.
Fire Sprinklers are required. Please see attached letter for additional information.
Response: Noted.
Department: Light And Power
Contact: Doug Martine, 970-224-6152, dmartine@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/15/2012
11/15/2012: A landscape plan showing existing and planned streetlights was sent to Landmark
Engineering on 11-14-12. These lights need to be shown on the landscape plan, and tree
locations adjusted to provide a minimum 40 feet of clearance between shade type trees and
lights (15 feet if the tree is an ornamental type).
Response: The lighting plan has been incorporated into the plan set and the street tree locations
adjusted to provide the required clearances.
Comment Number: 2 Comment Originated: 11/15/2012
11/15/2012: It is assumed that a fire booster pump will not be installed. If one will be installed,
please contact Light & Power Engineering at (970)221-6700 to coordinate service and metering
requirements.
Response: A fire Booster pump is not required based on available water flows and pressures.
Comment Number: 3 Comment Originated: 11/15/2012
11/15/2012: By City Code, the residential house on the site will need to be metered and
served separately.
Response: Noted.
Comment Number: 4 Comment Originated: 11/15/2012
11/15/2012: Light & Power Engineering will need a Commercial Service Information (C-1) form
completed relative to the service to the temple building, and the name/address of who to
invoice for the Light & Power electric development charges. There will be two invoices issued,
each for 50% of the Light & Power charges. The 1st 50% will be payable before we can
schedule installation of the Light & Power facilities. The 2nd 50% will be payable before the
electric system can be energized. Once the plan is final, an AutoCad (version 2008) drawing of
the utility/site plan will need to be sent to Terry Cox at TCOX@FCGOV.COM.
Response: Noted.
Comment Number: 5 Comment Originated: 11/15/2012
11/15/2012: The electric transformer will need to be located within 10 feet of an all-weather
surface that is accessible to a utility line truck, and it will need a minimum of 8 feet unobstructed
clearance in front, and 3 feet on the other 3 sides. If the transformer will be screened (ex.
fenced in), please contact Doug Martine in Light & Power Engineering at (970)224-6152 to
coordinate specifics. Also, contact Doug with any questions.
Response: The electrical transformer will be located within the mechanical enclosure shown on the
site plan and is within 10’ of the parking lot in order to provide for access as may be needed. All
required setback from the public ROW have been met.
Comment Number: 6 Comment Originated: 11/15/2012
11/15/2012: The utility plan shows electric utility facilities to be installed east of the sidewalk
along Timberline Rd. The electric facilities will be placed between the curb and the sidewalk.
The established utility installation sequence specifies that utilities will be installed from deepest
to shallowest, with electric to be installed after curbs (excluding the radii), but before the
sidewalks.
Response: All of the proposed electrical lines are shown schematically between the back of curb
and the sidewalk. Deeper utilities will be installed first.
Department: PFA
Contact: Jim Lynxwiler, 970-416-2869, jlynxwiler@poudre-fire.org
Topic: General
Comment Number: 02 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: FIRE LANE SPECIFICATIONS
A fire lane plan shall be submitted for approval prior to installation. In addition to the design
criteria already contained in relevant standards and policies, any new fire lane must meet the
following general requirements:
> Shall be designated on the plat as an Emergency Access Easement.
> Maintain the required 20 foot minimum unobstructed width* & 14 foot minimum overhead
clearance.
> Be designed as a flat, hard, all-weather driving surface capable of supporting 40 tons.
> Be visible by painting and signage, and maintained unobstructed at all times.
> Have appropriate maintenance agreements that are legally binding and enforceable.
*NOTE: For structures three stories or more in height; required fire lanes shall be 30 foot wide
minimum on at least one long side of the building.
2006 International Fire Code 503.2.3, 503.3, 503.4 and Appendix D
Response: Main Fire Lane on south side of the Temple includes a 30’ Access Aisles and the
Dropoff/Staging Area. This entire easement has been labeled as “Emergency Access
Easement”. The requirement of 20’ minimum unobstruction and 14’ minimum overhead
clearances have been met on both Emergency Access points. Each Fire lane proposed are flat,
rigid asphalt driving surfaces, capable of bearing 40 tons distributed amongst all axles of the
vehicle. These lanes are marked with signage and intended to remain clear of obstructions at
all times. PFA / LDS Church maintenance agreements shall be included in the Development
Agreement during FDP approval.
Note: The 30’ cleared, unobstructed fire lane on this project is provided on the south side of the
Temple and both the north side and south side fire lanes have been extensively coordinated
with Jim Lynxwiler with PFA. The northern access provides for ladder trucks with a boom
arrangement.
Comment Number: 03 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: TURNING RADII
The required turning radii of a fire apparatus access road shall be a minimum of 25 feet inside
and 50 feet outside.
International Fire Code 503.2.4 and Local Amendments
Verify this has been achieved at turn around at passenger drop off on south side of temple and
show this in the drawings.
Response: The turning radii on all parts of the fire apparatus aisles meet these requirements.
The turn-around area for the Temple staging area in the south has an inside radius of 16’ and
an outer radius that is 50’. These dimensions are labeled on the overall utility plan. All drive
entrance accesses comply. There will be rollover curb instituted where the north emergency
access area takes ingress from Trilby Road.
Comment Number: 04 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: FIRE LANE PROXIMITY
Buildings or portions of buildings exceeding 30 foot in height above the lowest level of fire
department vehicle access shall be provided with approved fire apparatus access roads
capable of accommodating fire department aerial apparatus. Overhead utility and power lines
shall not be located within the aerial fire apparatus access roadway. Fire lanes shall have a
minimum unobstructed with of 30 feet and shall be positioned parallel to one entire side of the
building. Fire lanes shall be located within a minimum of 15 feet and a maximum of 30 feet from
the building. 2006 International Fire Code Appendix D
Response: There is a fire apparatus access road provided on the north side of the Temple.
The location, width and length of this concrete access has been coordinated extensively and
approved by Jim Lynxwiler at PFA. The concrete mat shall be 20’ wide, has been extended to
meet the pedestrian walkway near the Temple and has been moved easterly to be more near
the higher mass of the structure. The Ladder Truck will be able to successfully stage close
enough to the highest part of the Temple, the tower and the steeple portions.
Comment Number: 05 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: FDC
Fire Department Connections shall be installed in accordance with NFPA standards. The
location of the FDC shall be discussed and approved by the fire department.
2006 International Fire Code 912.2
Response: Following discussions with Jim Lynxwiler on this project, we relocated the Fire
Department Connection to sit on the northeast side of the round-about, between the outer gate
and the staging area mat itself.
Department: PFA
Contact: Jim Lynxwiler, 970-416-2869, jlynxwiler@poudre-fire.org
Topic: General
Comment Number: 06 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: SECURITY GATES
The installation of security gates across fire apparatus access roads, trails, or other
accessways, shall be approved by the fire chief. When security gates are installed, they shall
have an approved means of emergency operation. The security gates and the emergency
operation shall be maintained operational at all times. Further discussion with the fire
department on this issue is required.
2006 International Fire Code 503.6
Response: The gates on the north side fire access lane shall be tied to the fire alarm system and
automatically unlock and open when an alarm is triggered. Knox box style key boxes shall be
installed at the pedestrian gates on the south of the building.
Comment Number: 07 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: KEY BOXES REQUIRED
Poudre Fire Authority requires at least one key box ("Knox Box") to be mounted in approved
location(s) on every new building equipped with a required fire sprinkler or fire alarm system.
The top shall not be higher than 6 feet above finished floor.
2006 International Fire Code 506.1 and Poudre Fire Authority Bureau Policy 88-20
Response: Noted. A “knox Box” shall be located at an agreed location on an entrance to the building.
Comment Number: 08 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: PREMISE IDENTIFICATION
New and existing buildings shall be plainly identified. Address numbers shall be visible from
the street fronting the property, plainly visible, and posted with a minimum of six-inch numerals
on a contrasting background.
2006 International Fire Code 505.1
Response: Noted.
Comment Number: 10 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: Emergency access easement on south side of temple to include the turn around
@ passenger drop off. The emergency access on the north side of the temple is under review.
Response: The Emergency Access location in the south has been shown to have meet all of
the requirements preferred by the PFA at this time. Additionally, we believe that all of the
northerly issues that were outstanding have now been addressed. Following coordination with
Mr. Lynxwiler, we believe that this submittal satisfies the requirements of the the PFA at this
time. If there is anything that needs to be discussed prior to the Public Hearing, please let us
know.
Department: Stormwater Engineering
Contact: Wes Lamarque, 970-416-2418, wlamarque@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: The drainage design meets the necessary requirements for a PDP submittal
except for the following items which need to be addressed before a public hearing.
Response: The comments below have been addressed by closely coordinating with Wes
Lamarque and the comments are addressed through corrections or additions to the drainage
report and drainage and erosion control plans. A drainage acceptance agreement will be
supplied by the owner of the private property located at the southeast area of the project outfall
on Timberline. For further details, refer to the responses below.
Comment Number: 2 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: If any off-site drainage easements are needed, letter of intents are required before
a public hearing.
Response: A letter of intent for the drainage changes that occur on the southeast edge of
Timberline Road has been reviewed by the affected land owner. Unfortunately, the owner has
been ill and we have not been able to meet to have them sign the letter of acknowledgement.
The drainage acceptance agreement will be submitted as soon as the owner recovers; that
having been said, the executed agreement shall be submitted prior to the P & Z hearing and
PDP approval.
Comment Number: 3 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: The release rate for the detention pond located at the southwest corner of the
project is high compared to similar scenarios. The calculations were also hard to follow and
not based on historic basins. This will need to be reviewed.
Response: Wes Lamarque has been contacted and the outstanding issues on the release rate
and clarity of the calculations have been addressed and agreed to as shown in the drainage
report that is included with this submittal.
Department: Stormwater Engineering
Contact: Wes Lamarque, 970-416-2418, wlamarque@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 4 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: The increase of flow from the widening of the east side of Timberline Road needs
to be analyzed downstream. The increase is minor, but capacity downstream needs to be
shown. The conveyance for these flows also needs to be shown stable and not result in
additional erosion.
Response: We have now analyzed the affects of the addition of roadway and private
improvements, as they pertain to an increase of storm flow rates, capacities and erosion control
needs. The additional roadway pavement added on the west side of Timberline only increases
the storm runoff very slightly, and the analysis now included in the drainage report shows the
ability of the western borrow ditch to carry the 100-year flows and the recommended erosion
control measures to take. The west Timberline outlet receiving channel and foreground are
currently sized and protected properly. The eastern outlet works have also been analyzed. The
increase in storm water caused by the public and private improvements proposed by the LDS
Temple project on the eastern edge of Timberline Road, has been studied, and the provided
drainage report, drainage plans and erosion control plans provide the appropriate measures to
take. The point release from the storm sewer on the east side of Timberline Road and south of
Rock Castle Lane switches to overland flow due to the flattening of the drainage way as it
transitions from the public Right-of-Way onto the first private property. This flattened flow
regime removes velocity and erosion threats as the ground naturally transitions to a field-like
overland flow. Thus, we have detained the flows (Outlot A Detention Pond), per the City of Fort
Collins Storm Drainage Manual, provided drainage & erosion control implementations and
received a storm water acceptance agreement from the private downstream owner.
Department: Technical Services
Contact: Jeff County, 970-221-6588, jcounty@fcgov.com
Topic: Building Elevations
Comment Number: 11 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: The sheet titles on sheets A.1 - A.4 do not match the sheet index on sheet SP.1.
Response: The sheet index on sheet SP.1 has been revised to match the titles on the Architectural
sheets.
Topic: Construction Drawings
Comment Number: 16 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: The description on benchmark 9-02 does not match the City's Vertical Control
Network. There is a typo in the description of benchmark 10-96, and the elevation has changed
to 4915.12.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Benchmarks and control items have been
resolved.
Comment Number: 17 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Is the Larimer County Engineering signature block needed, since this is annexed
into the City of Fort Collins?
Response: The Larimer County signature block is placed on the Title Sheet of the Utility Plans,
only during the PDP stage of approval. It is needed for the portion of the Timberline design that
is in the County. The signature block will be located on all of the sheets that need review by the
County at FDP stage. During the PDP approval process, it is our understanding that only the
cover sheets need to have outlying jurisdictional sign off. During the Final Development
Process, it is our understanding that we shall then place signature blocks for each entity on
those sheets affecting their interest.
Comment Number: 18 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: There are line over text issues on sheets C.2, C.3, C.9 & C.17.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Lines over text issues have been resolved.
Comment Number: 19 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please darken or mask the lighter text on sheets C.12 - C.14.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Lighter text has been made more
prominent on the sheets.
Topic: Landscape Plans
Comment Number: 7 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: There are line over text issues on sheets LS.1, LS.2, LP.1 - LP.7.
Response: These issues have been addressed as far as the technical constraints of AutoCAD
layering and x-referencing it has also been addressed by using wipeouts where applicable.
Comment Number: 8 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: There is text that is too small on sheets LS.2 & LP.1 - LP6. Please increase the
size.
Response: The text size has been increased to a point that balances legibility of the text with
legibility of the tree symbol in all locations on the plan and maintains consistency in text size in
symbols. Landscape Architect symbols are computer blocks that have limitations. The smaller
tree symbols we use would become graphically indiscernible with larger text.
Comment Number: 9 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: The sheet numbering in the key map and the matchlines does not match the actual
sheet numbers on sheets LP.1 - LP.6.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Sheet numbering in key map now matches.
Comment Number: 10 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please remove the boundary information(bearings & distances) and any other
information not important to these sheets.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Bearings & distances have been removed.
Topic: Lighting Plan
Department: Technical Services
Contact: Jeff County, 970-221-6588, jcounty@fcgov.com
Topic: Lighting Plan
Comment Number: 12 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: There are line over text issues on sheets E.1 & E.2.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Lines over text issues resolved.
Comment Number: 13 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please add a scale & scale bar to sheets E.1 & E.2.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Scale and Bar are now present on sheets.
Comment Number: 14 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: The text on sheet E.1 is too small, please increase the size.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Text is now enlarged.
Comment Number: 15 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: The sheet titles on sheets E.4 & E.5 do not match the sheet index on sheet SP.1.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Sheet titles and sheet index now match.
Topic: Plat
Comment Number: 20 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please add "Replat of Lot 2 of the Amended Plat of Lots 1 -4 of the Leistikow
M.R.D. S-21-92, and being a" to the sub-title.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Text has been arranged as such.
Comment Number: 21 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please correct the legal description, and increase the text size.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans.
Comment Number: 22 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please add a blank & title to the Owners signature block.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Blank and title has been added.
Comment Number: 23 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Are there any lienholders? If so, please add the Lienholders signature block.
Response: The LDS Church owns the property and there are no Lienholders..
Comment Number: 24 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please add the Sight Distance Easement language.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Sight distance easement language added.
Comment Number: 25 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please add "as shown on the Amended Plat of Lots 1 -4 of the Leistikow M.R.D.
S-21-92," to the Basis Of Bearings statement.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Wording added to Basis of Bearing.
Comment Number: 26 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please show all right of way widths, and how the rights of way were dedicated.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Right-of-Way widths and dedication defined.
Comment Number: 27 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please move around the bearings & distances along Timberline Road.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Labels have been moved.
Comment Number: 28 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please add the distances along Timberline Road as indicated.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Distance added.
Comment Number: 29 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Are Outlots A & B intended to be easements?
Response: Outlots A & B are variously dedicated easements, including: Drainage, Natural
Habitat Buffer Zone, Irrigation, Landscape & Utilities. They are labeled on the plans
Comment Number: 30 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: The easements shown on sheet 2 for vacation can only be vacated with an
acknowledgement from the easement holder/ditch owners(shown here and signed by the ditch
owners).
Response: The 15’ and 10’ irrigation easements are obsolete, as the stakeholders of those
easements have already received a valid replacement easement along the north east and east
Lot 3 property lines that were recorded on the Leistikow M.R.D. Annexation Plat, which currently
contain the only legitimate irrigation delivery system that serves those stakeholders. Thus,
since the 15’ and 10’ obsolete easements were never dedicated to any particular party, and
being non-exclusive or non-prescriptive right-of-way, they now serve no other stakeholder than
the LDS Church and thus can be abandoned on the LDS Church Plat. See pertinent note
added on Plat.
Department: Technical Services
Contact: Jeff County, 970-221-6588, jcounty@fcgov.com
Topic: Plat
Comment Number: 31 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please show a detail for the area at the southeast corner of Trilby Road & Majestic
Drive.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Detail enlarged on sheet.
Comment Number: 32 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please change the seconds on curve C3 to 28". Both the Amended Plat of Lots 1
-4 of the Leistikow M.R.D. S-21-92 and the Leistikow Annexation show this as 28".
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. C3 is now 28”.
Comment Number: 33 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: The boundary and legal description close.
Response: Noted, thank you.
Topic: Site Plan
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please remove the "Being a Project Development Plan fo approximately 15.7 Ac
of the Leistikow Annexation". This is a development plan for the property being platted as Fort
Collins LDS Temple.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. The “Being a Project Dev..” verbiage is
removed.
Comment Number: 2 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please add a legal description for the property to sheet SP.1.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans. Legal description added.
Comment Number: 3 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: There are line over text issues on sheets SP.2, SP.3 & SP.5.
Response: Line over text issues have been addressed on all SP sheets.
Comment Number: 4 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: Please correct the sheet numbering on sheet SP.4.
` Response: Sheet numbering and index has been revised to account for revisions to plan set.
Comment Number: 5 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: There are text over text issues on sheet SP.5.
Response: Line over text issues have been addressed on all SP sheets.
Comment Number: 6 Comment Originated: 11/28/2012
11/28/2012: There is text that is doubled over itself on sheet SP.5.
Response: This has been addressed.
Department: Traffic Operation
Contact: Ward Stanford, 970-221-6820, wstanford@fcgov.com
Topic: Construction Drawings
Comment Number: 6 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: S&S plans C10: please remove the dotted/dashed lines at the opening of the turn
bays (lefts/rights, TWLTL), except where a right turn lane moves right of a bike lane.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans.
Comment Number: 7 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: S&S Plans C10: Please remove the ONLY in the short South bound left turn (SbL)
lane on Timberline at Trilby.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans.
Comment Number: 8 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: S&S Plans C10: Please add an R4-4 sign at STA 103+16.05 (start of the SbR turn
lane taper at Timberline and Majestic), and at STA 105+64.04 (start of NbR turn lane at
Timberline and Trilby), and at STA 92+40.75 (start of SbR turn lane at Timberline and Trilby).
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans.
Department: Traffic Operation
Contact: Ward Stanford, 970-221-6820, wstanford@fcgov.com
Topic: Construction Drawings
Comment Number: 9 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: S&S Plans C11: Please remove the back-to-back arrows in the TWLTL on
Timberline at the south side of the Majectic intersection (near CL STA 109+00) and the north
side of the Rock Castle intersection (near CL STA 113+00). Maintain the ones shown at CL STA
111+00.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans.
Comment Number: 10 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: S&S Plans C10: Please label the new R1-1 with street name sign at the outbound
lane on E. Majestic at Timberline.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans.
Comment Number: 11 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: S&S Plans C10: Please add/label new R1-1 signs at the exits from parking areas
on to Majestic.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans.
Comment Number: 12 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: S&S Plans: Please include a signing/striping plan for the intersection of Trilby and
Majestic providing R1-1 with street name signage and a stop bar.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans.
Comment Number: 13 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: S&S Plans: Please remove the stop bar on the approaches at Timberline and
Trilby where crosswalks exist or will be added. Typically we don't include stop bars at
signalized intersections
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans.
Comment Number: 14 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: S&S Plans: Reflect the above S&S comments on the Ultimate S&S plans also.
Response: Comment has been addressed on plans.
Topic: General
Comment Number: 5 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: Project will need to plan a minimum of 12 weeks in advance for ordering the new
traffic signal pole at the NW corner of Timberline and Trilby. Sixteen weeks has been required
on recent orders. Contact Traffic Operations for the signal changes and the specifications of the
products being changed/new.
Response: Noted.
Topic: Landscape Plans
Comment Number: 3 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: Trees and other plantings in sight distance easements must maintain a minimum
30" clear visual window, measured from the street flowline. Also the trees along the north side
of E. Majestic should be verified to not be creating a picket fence effectively blocking sight of
west bound commuters and south bound commuters entering Majestic from the parking lot
access points. See LCUASS section 7.4.1.C. 5 thru 7.
Response: Shrub plantings have been adjusted to provide 30” clear site zone. Street trees have
been located and adjusted to conform to Section 3.2.1(D)(2)(a) of the LUC. City staff has been
notified of the apparent conflict between that section of the code and LCUASS in this comment.
Awaiting clarification from city staff.
Comment Number: 4 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: Please verify sight distance north and south at the E. Majestic and Timberline
intersection. With the quantity and spacing of tree planting shown on the plans Traffic has
concerns with sight distance at Timberline and Majestic between high speed vehicles on
Timberline and vehicles exiting from E. Majestic.
Response: Street trees have been located and adjusted to conform to Section 3.2.1(D)(2)(a) of the
LUC. City staff has been notified of the apparent conflict between that section of the code and this
comment. Awaiting clarification from city staff.
Topic: Traffic Impact Study
Department: Traffic Operation
Contact: Ward Stanford, 970-221-6820, wstanford@fcgov.com
Topic: Traffic Impact Study
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: An east bound right (EbR) turn lane and a SbR turn lane was utlized in the short
and long term analysis, but the EbR does not exist and as far as I know none is planned to be
built with this project. The SbR is planned to be built with this project. The inclusion of the EbR
altered the results but the only significantly affected movement is the Eb left turn in the Friday
PM drops to LOS E, both in the ST background and the ST Total. Please revise the Friday PM
analysis without the EbR turn lane to verify the movement will still meet LOS standards without
causing other movements to fail.
Response: Please see attached detailed response letter to Comment Number 1 prepared by Delich
Associates.
Comment Number: 2 Comment Originated: 11/29/2012
11/29/2012: The TIS states a discussion was held regarding similar locations only produced
approximately 60% of the traffic the use could generate at 100% capacity. I'm unable to recall or
find notes about the discussion, nor is it noted on Attachment A. I would like to discuss this
item with the Consulting TE.
Response: Please see attached detailed response letter to Comment Number 2 prepared by Delich
Associates.
Department: Transportation Planning
Contact: Aaron Iverson, 970-416-2643, aiverson@fcgov.com
Topic: Variance Request
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 12/03/2012
12/03/2012: As proposed, the project does not meet LCUASS 16.6.4 pedestrian refuge for
South Timberline Road at Trilby Road and Timberline Road at Majestic. Two LCUASS variance
request will need to be submitted with the next round of review and will be evaluated at that
time.
Response: Please see attached Variance Request letter prepared by Delich Associates
Department: Water-Wastewater Engineering
Contact: Terry Farrill, ,
Topic: General
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: Terry Farrill, District Engineer, with The Fort Collins-Loveland Water District and the
South Fort Collins Sanitation District reviewed the LDS Temple project and have the following
comments. Please contact Terry at 226-3104 ext. 104 with questions.
Response: Noted. Responses are as follow.
Comment Number: 2 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: The District will require easements on the Districts standard easement form, for all
facilities that are not located within the public R.O.W. The District requires minimum 30 foot and
20 foot wide easements for the sanitary sewer lines and water lines, respectively.
Response: The plat has had the District’s easement language added to it for those District
easements that will be dedicated on the plat; Namely the 30’ waterline easement that travels
through the main drive of the Temple parking lot and others. The off-site easements on the
Leistikow M.R.D in Larimer County will be performed by separate instrument according to the
District’s own forms. All District lines private property easements are sized appropriately and
their characteristics have been discussed with Mr. Farrill.
Comment Number: 3 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: The District requires a Reduced Principle Back-Flow -Prevention Device with on
the riser of the fire lines needs to be added.
Response: Noted. We have shown a Back-Flow Prevention device on the fire riser line.
Department: Water-Wastewater Engineering
Contact: Terry Farrill, ,
Topic: General
Comment Number: 4 Comment Originated: 11/27/2012
11/27/2012: An 8 inch water line was stubbed to the existing fire hydrant along the north
property line for a future extension. The fire hydrant will need to be re-installed to the end of the
8 inch water line.
Response: The fire hydrant assembly in question will be relocated to the PFA preferred
location west of the 20’ Emergency Access Easement directly west of its current location. The
existing 8” water pipe that extends into the property will be reduced to 6” in-line with the current
pipe and it will be utilized as the connection of the 6” Fire Suppression Pipe to the building. This
will eliminate the need to disturb Trilby Road at these locations.
Department: Zoning
Contact: Noah Beals, 970-416-2313, nbeals@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 1 Comment Originated: 11/26/2012
11/21/2012: Signs and their locations are not approved in the PDP/FP. Signs and their
locations are permitted through a separate sign permit once the project has been recorded. If
the applicant wants to keep the sign locations on the plans for reference a note should be
included that it will be permitted through separate sign permit. (Proposed Development Plan)
Response: A note has been added to plans. Project Identification Sign locations and details are
shown for information only and the applicant recognizes that the signs are not entitled/permitted with
this PDP and/or FDP approval. The applicant shall submit to the City a separate signage permit
request related to the two signs proposed for review and approval by the City prior to the their
construction.
Comment Number: 2 Comment Originated: 11/26/2012
11/21/2012: Please label the dimensions of the trash and recycling enclosure on the plans and
the distance it is from the public sidewalk. (Final Plan)
Response: Noted. A detail of the Trash Enclosure has been added to the Site Plan, sheet SP.2.
Comment Number: 3 Comment Originated: 11/26/2012
11/21/2012: The Single Family dwelling does not meet the garage standards in which the
garage doors are to be recessed behind the house at least 4ft facing the public street. (
(Proposed Development Plan)
Also the house would associate better with future neighborhood if the front entrance was
oriented to the street. The driveway can still take access off the private drive.
Response: The plan of the Presidents House has been modified to include a 4’ bump out on the
south side elevation in order to conform with the Garage Door requirement. The orientation of the
house has remained internally focused towards the Temple in order to provide for the management
and caretaker functions required by the Temple President.
Comment Number: 4 Comment Originated: 11/26/2012
11/21/2012: The accessibility parking spaces require to be signed. (Final Plan)
Response: The site plan now shows the accessibility parking signage. Sign locations and details
will be provided with the final submittal.
Comment Number: 6 Comment Originated: 11/26/2012
11/26/2012: The proposed lighting plan indicated less than the required minimum of 1
foot-candle in some of the parking areas. Please review plan and adjust plans accordingly.
(Final Plan)
Response: The one (1) Foot-Candle minimum for parking lot lighting is not intended to be a
minimum of 1 Foot-Candle is required for each point on the parking lot. The intent of the Code is to
insure that an average of 1 Foot-Candle is achieved across the entire parking lot which has been
properly accomplished per the LUC.
Also the uplighting on the Statue is not allowed. To deviate from this standard there are two
ways to make the request 1.) is through the alternative compliance found in section 3.2.4(E) or
2.) through a modification to the standard. (Proposed Development Plan)
Response: A Steeple Lighting Analysis has been preformed in order to demonstrate the minimal
impact to the Dark Sky objectives fostered by the City’s LUC. It is the intent of this Photometric
Analysis preformed on the sky above the Steeple to provide the information needed for the City to
consideration a Modification of Standard related to the Steeple Lighting.
Comment Number: 7 Comment Originated: 11/26/2012
11/26/2012: In the UE zone the minimum lot size is 1/2 an acre. Lot 1 of Block 2 is less then
the 1/2 acre minimum. This lot will need to meet the 1/2 standard or request a modification at
this time for the reduce lot size. (Proposed Development Plan)
Response: The size of Lot 1 Block 2 of the proposed plat has been increased to meet the ½ acre
minimum lot size requirement in the UE Zoning district.
Also this lot should include a building envelope on the site plan. (Final Plan)
Response: A Building Envelope has been added to the Site Plan, sheer SP.2
Department: Zoning
Contact: Noah Beals, 970-416-2313, nbeals@fcgov.com
Topic: General
Comment Number: 8 Comment Originated: 11/26/2012
11/26/2012: The Landscape plan indicates some work to be done outside the recently
annexed area. The city can not permit this work at this time please contact the county for any
work that will need permits.
Response: Landscape plans have been sent to Matt Lafferty at Larimer County Planning for his
review, no response has been received as of the time of this resubmittal to the City.
Comment Number: 9 Comment Originated: 11/26/2012
11/26/2012: Fencing height is limited to 4ft between the front property line and front of building.
Assuming that the front property line is Along Majestic the fencing between the front of the
building and the property line is required to be 4ft in height.
LUC 3.8.11(C)(2) This section allows to deviate from the 4ft height limit if the there is a
demonstrated unique security purpose.
The other option is to request a modification to LUC 3.8.11(C)(1)
(Proposed Development Plan)
Response: A request to allow for the 6 foot high ornamental fence in the ”Front Yard” of the
Temple is included in this resubmittal based on a unique security need. The request is for the
“Front Yard” portion of the Temple security fence in order to allow the fence to be 6 foot high
between the east face of the Temple and the Majestic Drive ROW. This request to deviate from the
standard 4 foot allowed height is made based upon the unique security concerns of the LDS
Church and is based on the recommendations and analysis made by the Church’s Security Team.
The intent is to build a 6 foot high ornamental metal fence around the entire perimeter of the Temple
as shown on the site plan, SP.2 in order to insure a level of security needed by the Church. The 6
foot high metal fence has been redesigned so as to be more transparent as viewed from the public
ROW. A letter assessing the security issues for the Temple are outlined in an attachment from the
Church’s Security Assessment Team.