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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFIRST CHRISTIAN CHURCH PUD PHASE IV PRELIMINARY AND FINAL - 51 93 - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTES.Ik Planning and Zoning Board Meeting December 13, 1993 Minutes Page 12 participation is viable to the process and suggested awareness of the LDGS to guide the objections to PUDs-presented to the Board. The Board is very interested in citizen input. The motion carried 7-0. ARAPAHOE FARM TOWNHOMES PUD - PRELIMINARY, #55-87G Ted Shepard, project planner, gave the staff report recommending approval with Staff conditions. Eldon Ward - Cityscape Urban Design the consultant represented the applicant, James Company. The proposed project is supported by the Land Use Policies Plan with the criteria in the LDGS and is consistent with recent discussion and decisions by the Board has made a mix of housing types in residential areas. He discussed the density, mix, location, the 7-units per acre and presented slides. There have been two neighborhood meetings where the issue of neighborhood compatibility was discussed. The architecture has. many elements in common with the neighborhood. He gave several examples giving detail to the placement of the garages and other design elements. He illustrated compatibility of townhomes with single-family neighborhoods. Mr. Ward addressed roof materials of shake shingle or similar uses which is compatible with the neighborhood. There is an upgrade of asphalt that create shadow lines and appear natural. He stated that he has met with the Poudre Fire Authority and addressed their comments against wood shingles. He stated that cost is a factor, but the safety is an issue and cedar is a limited resource. Both roof materials are found in the immediate neighborhood. The Woodridge Development is using similar roofing to what is proposed. The insurance companies are becoming increasing restrictive to insure multi -family projects with wood shingles. Mr. Ward responded to neighborhood concerns of placement of garages and lowering the density of units. There are now 72 units proposed. Units closest to Regency Park were changed from 6 to 5 units to decrease the scale. He clarified the Woodridge traffic study concerning traffic flows in and out of the project site. The traffic studies will be completed in the current phase at Woodridge. The Taft Hill connection will be made this spring. He stated that Hillburn Drive is proposed to remove the existing street. He is not aware of another example where that has been required of an adjacent property developer. He would like to keep the street as currently constructed and accepted for maintenance for the City of Fort Collins. He requested direction from the Board to treat the applicant according to the same rules that other projects have been. Mr. Ward addressed staff conditions. The area between the townhomes and Regency Park have been the focus of most of the discussion and the applicant is in agreement to Staff conditions 2, 3 and 4. The first condition is to increase a setback. The minimum setback is over 46-1/2 feet at one building and 47 feet at the other. With the angle of the building, the average is 70 feet across the face to the adjacent property. He stated that extensive berming and landscaping has Planning and Zoning Board Meeting December 13, 1993 Minutes Page 11 time, consideration of planning for a 20 year phase project, not only for the benefit to the church and for the neighbors adjoining the property affected. The master plan includes a sanctuary for 3,000 people. This is what was envisioned for this site. He was unsure if the sanctuary would be for 3,000 people but would like to reserve the right that it could be. The tower could be 105 feet high, established in the drawings in 1979. With regard to some comments about the tower, the Church would be happy to meet with the neighbors when the time comes. He stated that the applicant understands the concerns of the neighborhood. He mentioned the considerable buffer between the tower and adjoining residences. The benefit of soccer and baseball fields that are there takes away the intrusion. Mr. Olt said there will be a public meeting for residents to discuss the phases and come back to the Board for approval. The overall master plan preliminary in 1979 has been approved, but the ability for vested right to construct any additional phases would have to come back to the Board. At that time the design of the structure associated with that phase would be evaluated. Chair Clements suggested that the individuals who addressed the Board get together with the applicant to address concerns. An active involvement early in the process might help create positive outcomes. Chair Clements asked about the driveway being a safety issue. She pointed out that the Board is very educated regarding the site plans and the slide was not omitted purposely. She asked Staff to address any issues concerning this. Mr. Olt said there was not much detail but at the present time, all the parking exists at the south of the church off of Lemay, with the opposite entry point to Scotch Pines Shopping Center, and continues south of the church, turns 90 degrees and proceeds due north to east Drake Road. It was his understanding that the driveway would tie into Drake Road. Member Klataske moved for approval of the First Christian Church PUD Phase 1V Preliminary and Final. Member Winfree seconded the motion. Member Strom commented that the motion does not include the enlarged sanctuary or a tower or a driveway at this point. He encouraged those with concerns to contact the church early rather than. later to which Mr. Glaser was agreeable. There will be other hearings to discuss those issues. Member Winfree agreed with Member Strom and stated the concern of the neighborhood input stating it is ineffective for them to participate and that it is a "done deal." She further said the Board has a set of criteria to weigh decisions against those that are evaluated. Citizen Planning and Zoning Board Meeting December 13, 1993 Minutes Page 10 incorporating specific design criteria, with the connecting point to the future sanctuary. He showed the administration and classroom wing. He stated similar construction materials are being used and would be compatible. CITIZEN INPUT Dan Grider - 2707 Brookwood Dr. - represented a group of homeowners in the area and stated his concern were with the plans of the First Christian Church to build a tower in a future phase of construction.. This tower is not in keeping with the surrounding community. He requested to meet with the church administration to discuss it further. The homeowners plan to make concerns known again at the time the formal request is made by the church to construct such a tower. Andy Cornedi - 2812 Fairbrook Ct. - He has been a resident in the Eastborough area for the past 12 years. The plans that were submitted in 1979 did not show the future buildings close to the property line. He mentioned evening meals in the summertime in his backyard would significantly be interrupted by the structures proposed, especially a 103 foot tower. He requested to work with the church body concerning future plans to ensure neighborhood compatibility. There were no other houses on his cul-de-sac until 1983-1984. Fran Ward - 1024 Oxford Lane #45 - . She read a statement asking why these public hearings concerning the future building plans of the First Christian Church continue being held. The first time she heard of these plans was July 7, 1993 meeting. This was held in the church building. At that time, the neighborhood understood, regardless of the feelings of the residents, the deed was done, no amount of objection could sway the powers that.be. In 1979,. she was aware that Drake Road and Lemay were virtually non-existent. The landowners at that time didn't object to plans, the owners were farmers or realtors. She wondered if the omission of the overall plan slide was deliberate because the 103-foot tower, when presented, was a "done deal" with permission to exceed the normal height in 1979. She believed it was 70 feet from Lemay and found the idea objectionable. Vicki Kirchner - 2606 Dorado Ct. - She agreed with previous comments made concerning the tower by. She had a concern regarding the safety of the driveway. It is increasingly busy on a curve and an added driveway would pose more safety considerations. C=EN.INPUT CLOSED Chair Clements asked for clarification on the issue of the tower. Mr. Glaser stated, on behalf of the Church, that they would be glad to meet with the neighbors. He said they have established a good neighbor policy from the onset of this project and went beyond what was required in terms of the master planning. He detailed the amount of energy, Planning and Zoning Board Meeting December 13, 1993 Minutes Page 9 Member Walker said he could not support the motion because he believed that a statement should be included regarding the awnings. He thinks it is a corporate identity, an architectural consideration and that there should be a better blend between the two buildings on the site since they are trying to create a sense of unity in the center. Member Strom moved to amendment the motion to the effect that the awning on the chicken building pattern be toned down, not necessarily that the colors be the same as the Blockbuster, that the pattern and contrast be toned down on the awning. Member Cottier said that was acceptable. Member Fontane said that was acceptable as a second. Motion carried 7-0. FIRST CHRISTIAN CHURCH PUD, PHASE IV - PRELEWNARY AND FINAL. #51-93. Steve Olt, project planner, gave the staff report recommending approval. Member Strom asked for clarification for a driveway on the east boundary. Mr. Olt said the applicant will address the issue. The site plan does not show a driveway at this time but they were in previous plans. It has been eliminated. There is now an open area for recreational uses and a detention area in the southeast corner of the property. The recorded plan does not show a driveway along these property lines (referring to a map). Mr. Carl Glaser - Glaser Associates Architects, representing First Christian Church - He stated there is a proposed driveway included in the master plan that was submitted and approved in 1979. The implementation of that driveway would coincide with the further expansion of the church sanctuary. That is not for discussion at this time. The next phase that would follow Phase IV would be a sanctuary to seat 3,000 people. That was the design, whether it would fulfill that size, would have to be determined at the time of the development. With the construction of the sanctuary, the applicant would have to expand the seating and the parking capacity of the site. With the expansion of the parking lot, there would have to be additional egress and that would be the point the property on the east line would be implemented. When this project was originally discussed and approved in 1979. There was a considerable amount of discussion about that driveway and design submittals showed how it would be buffered from adjoining residences and was approved. Mr. Glaser commented on the staff report presentation by stating that (1) the administration wing will be to the north in location. Recently Phase III has been completed and he described in detail the design of the building; (2) He presented slides of the two parts of Phase IV, PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MEETING MINUTES December 13, 1993 Gerry Horak, Council Liaison Sherry. Albertson -Clark, Staff Support Liaison The December 13, 1993, meeting of the Planning and Zornng Board was called to order at 6:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall West, 300 Laporte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado. Board members present included Chairperson Rene' Clements, Jan Cottier, Jennifer Fontane, James Klataske, Bernie Strom, Lloyd Walker, and Sharon Winfree. Staff members present included Chief Planner Sherry Albertson -Clark, Steve Olt, Ted Shepard, Mike Herzig, and Carolyn Worden. AGENDA REVIEW Ms. Sherry Albertson -Clark reviewed the consent agenda for the meeting which consisted of: Item 1 - Minutes of the October 25, November 1, and November 15, 1993, Planning and Zoning meetings; Item 2 - South Glen PUD, 4th Filing - Preliminary, #110-79J; Item 3 - Evangelical Covenant Church PUD, Phase 2 - Preliminary & Final, #9-85C; Item 4 - Rose Tree Village @ Cunningham Corners PUD - Final, #4-83P; Item 5 - The Market at Horsetooth Commons, Lot 1, Amended Preliminary and Final PUD, #58-91D; Item 6 - Four Seasons PUD, 9th Filing - Preliminary, #112-79P; Item 7 - CAT PUD, 16th Filing, Cinema Savers - Final, #53-5AG; Item 8 - Matterhorn PUD, Final, #49-93A; Item 10 - Modification of Conditions of Final Approval; Item 11 - First Christian Church PUD, Phase IV - Preliminary and Final, #51-93; Item 12 - Housekeeping Changes to Sections 29-304 and 29- 342 of the City Code, #77-93. Ms. Clark reviewed the Discussion Agenda which included: Item 13 -Arapahoe Farm Townhomes PUD - Preliminary, #55-87G; Item 16 - Huntington Hills PUD, 3rd Filing - Preliminary - #11-81I; Item 18 - Spring Creek Village PUD - Amended Preliminary, #2- 87M. Chair Clements requested that Item 8 be pulled from the Consent Agenda to the Discussion Agenda, there was a request of the audience to pull Item 5, and Item 11. Member Strom moved to approve Consent Agenda Items except Items 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10 and 12. Member Cottier seconded the motion. Motion passed 7-0. THE MARKET AT HORSETOOTH COMMONS, LOT 1. AMENDED PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PUD. #58-91D. Ted Shepard, Project Planner, gave the staff report stating that the required minimum of Criteria points was achieved and Staff was recommending approval. Chair Clements questioned the car wash component to the Circle K convenience store. The company has a vested right to build the Circle K as it stands.