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29. You should provide more buffering south of the Assisted Living Center,
especially to screen the parked cars.
A. We can look at this as plans evolve.
30. I am concerned about the operational aspects of the Assisted Living Center. Will
there be ambulances, three shifts, deliveries, noise?
A. This will be a residential facility like Collinwood on Lemay. There will be no
emergency room. Yes ambulances will occasionally
be called to transport a resident to the hospital but seldom will this require a siren. Yes
there will be three shifts but this involves very few employees and shift change is not in
the middle of the night. Deliveries can be taken in from the front. Generally these
operations are residential in nature.
31. Can you provide a fence and landscaping along the south property line?
A. Yes, we can look at fencing and landscaping in that area.
32. About how many residents in the Assisted Living Center?
A. We are estimating about 80 at this time.
33. I would like to see more sidewalk connections.
A. We are providing sidewalks along all street connections. Along Harmony, we are
building a sidewalk west, past our property line, across the railroad tracks, to tie into the
existing walk along ABB. Internal walks will be provided to connect the pad sites to
each other and to the theater and retail shops.
34. What about the remote parking lot in the southwest corner?
A. We see this as an overflow lot for busy times. We will provide basketball hoops
so kids can use it when empty.
35. I would prefer that there be one less drive-thru restaurant.
36. I would prefer that the c-store be shifted further north.
37. If we had a choice, I vote for local restaurants rather than the prototypical national
chain.
A. These are all good comments.
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23. I agree with the previous comment. I think a 16-plex is too big. I am concerned
about the scale and the magnitude of the building.
A. We will design the architecture of the building so it is not big and unattractive.
The center is sized, according to the Harmony Corridor Plan, as a "community -scale"
shopping center so it is expected to feature more activity than a "neighborhood -scale"
center like the Safeway project.
24. Will the Harmony/Timberline intersection be like the Harmony/College
intersection?
A. No, the Harmony/College intersection is the corner of two state highways, both of
which are classified as major arterials. The Level of Service at Harmony/Timberline will
be better for longer periods that the Harmony/College intersection.
25. I am concerned about excessive neon on the theater and the restaurants. I do not
want to see neon lights from my house at night.
A. This is a good concern. Although it is too early to determine what the sign
covenants will be, we will keep this in mind.
26. What about parking lot lighting?
A. We will specify that parking lot lighting be on poles about 25 to 30 feet in height,
which is less than the City's streetlights on Timberline. We will also be directed by Staff
to specify light fixtures that are down -directional and do not cast illumination off the
property. These are called "sharp -cutoff luminaires."
27. Could the Harmony right-in/right-out be expanded to allow left -out turns to go
west on Harmony?
A. Not initially since the State (CDOT) will not allow such expansion. The
operation, however, can be monitored by the City and if expansion is warranted, then the
City can lobby CDOT for an expanded operation.
28. Is it true that no drive-thru restaurants are allowed in the Harmony Corridor?
A. From the developer's perspective, this is under discussion.
Response from City: Our interpretation is that this is correct, drive-thru restaurants (not
banks) are prohibited in the Harmony Corridor.
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16. Could the Cinemark rep tell us a little bit about the theater?
A. Yes. We are planning a 16-screen theater with a total of 3250 seats. All seats will
be "stadium seating." The building will be about 38 feet high. All screens will feature
digital sound. There will be six box offices to reduce time waiting in line. We have built
similar theaters in Colorado Springs and Pueblo.
17. Why can't you build two 8-plexes instead of one 16-plex and thereby reduce the
size and scale of the building?
A. We propose one structure for efficiency in the operation. Also, in one building, a
family can split up safely. We plan on multiple showings of popular movies at staggered
start times to help distribute the crowd over a variety of starting times.
18. What would be your latest show? Would you show "midnight" movies?
A. We are not sure about "midnight" movies at this time. We would like to pursue it
if successful.
19. I would be opposed to midnight movies. This would bring way too much traffic
at too late an hour. This would be unacceptable.
20. I would want the restaurants to close by 10:00 p.m. Otherwise, there will be loud
disturbances in our neighborhood late at night.
A. We do not know the closing times of the restaurants that we have talked to thus
far. We can get you more information on this later in the process.
21. Will the theater provide security and enforcement in the parking lot at night?
A. Yes, Cinemark will provide this service.
22. I am opposed to a 16 screen movie theater. This is too many for our part of town.
This theater is being set up as a city-wide draw or even a regional draw, not a
neighborhood draw. The amount of traffic being attracted to our neighborhood is
excessive and we should not have to put up with it. I've seen the mess on West
Horsetooth Road with the Carmike 10-plex and we do not want the same thing happening
here.
A. These are good comments. I think we have a better street system and internal
circulation system than the Carmike 10 on Horsetooth. Access to our center will be from
two main streets, one an arterial (Timberline) and one a state highway major arterial
(Harmony). The double left turn lanes at Timberline/Timberwood intersection will allow
more cars to exit the center. Keep in mind the restaurants, some movie-goers may decide
to grab a quick bite after the show and wait for traffic to subside.
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10. What is the timing of the Keenland connection over the railroad tracks?
A. Although this connection has long been shown on the City's Master Street Plan,
there is no funding source for the project. Keep in mind that permission must still be
obtained from the Colorado Public Utilities Commission for an at -grade railroad crossing
and this can be a lengthy process. A similar example would be Troutman Parkway which
is master -planned to cross the Burlington Northern tracks over by Target.
11. I am concerned about exiting theater traffic during the early evening, especially on
weekends. This is the time when kids are out playing and riding their bikes. The
increase in traffic will make our neighborhood dangerous.
A. Keep in mind that as the theatre lets out in the evening, there will be less traffic on
the Harmony and Timberline. We will support any effort to work with theCity to install
traffic calming on Wilmington and/or Delaney.
12. I am concerned about the right -in on Harmony. This will lead directly to Delaney
and encourage traffic through our neighborhood.
A. Eastbound traffic on Harmony wanting to go south on Timberline will take
advantage of the right turn lane and the ability to turn right on red at the intersection.
This is referred to as a "free -right. If this traffic goes through the shopping center, there
will narrower lanes, a curved street and a stop sign. This route will prove to be slower
and thus discourage a Harmony - Delaney connection.
13. Can the right -in on Harmony be signalized?
A. No, it is too close to Timberline and neither the State nor the City will allow it to
be signalized.
14. What will be the first phase?
A. We expect to obtain Final approval in early 1999 and the theater will take about
10 to 12 months to construct. The retail will be constructed after the theater based on
leasing activity.
15. What about buffering on the south side of the Assisted Living Center?
A. These plans are not finalized yet but we expect to provide a range of 20 to 50 feet
building setback along the south property line. We expect this to be a two-story building,
not a three-story so this should help with buffering and privacy.
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4. I agree that there will be lower trip generation in the morning peak due to the
nature of retail uses, but what about when the Poudre Valley Hospital site opens up across
the street? Won't there be a morning impact for the medical offices and outpatient
clinics?
A. We are also the traffic consultants for the P.V.H. parcel. This project is estimated
to generate about 6,100 average daily trips with the initial phase. (The initial phase
consists of 129,000 square feet of medical office building and 86,000 square feet of
hospital.) The a.m. peak is estimated at 396 trips and the p.m. peak at 551 trips. These
trips have been factored into the analysis of the roadway.
5. I am concerned about the weekend evenings when the multi -screen theater lets out
all at the same time. This traffic will overload the proposed intersection on Timberline
Road and traffic will seek an outlet through our neighborhood.
A. This is why this intersection will feature double -left turn lanes. Also, there is a
right -out exit along Harmony Road.
6. What will be the level of service for the new Timberline intersection?
A. The level of service will be "D" during the weekday, p.m. peak and "C" during
the Saturday peak.
7. I feel the exiting traffic will take Delaney as a "cut -through" to avoid the new
signal being proposed on Timberline. How can we prevent "cut -through" traffic? Also,
why was Delaney analyze to carry only 1% of the center's traffic?
A. Traffic heading south will have the advantage of a "free right" (right turn on red)
at the new Timberline intersection. This should be enough incentive to discourage
drivers from cutting through Harmony Village. The City's Transportation Department
has a traffic calming program that can assist your neighborhood on installing traffic
calming devices to slow down the cars.
8. Delaney and Wilmington should be closed. Why do these streets have to connect?
Response From City: It is desirable that the City develop in such a way that streets
connect to each other. Connecting streets will allow easy access for the residents of
Harmony Crossing into the center without having to make a left turn from the subdivision
to go north on Timberline Road. These left turns are called "unprotected lefts" in that
there is no benefit of a traffic signal to stop oncoming traffic. Neighborhood access to a
shopping center is a key factor in land use planning.
9. We live between Delaney and Timberline. With the increase in traffic on both
streets, there will be more traffic noise.
SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING MINUTES
PROJECT: Harmony Village Preliminary P.U.D.
DATE: July 15, 1998
APPLICANT: J.F. Carter, Dial Properties
Ty Fangman, Dial Properties
Randy Hester, Cinemark Theaters
CONSULTANTS: Linda Ripley, V-F Ripley and Associates
Matt Delich and Ruth Clear, Delich and Associates
PLANNER: Ted Shepard, Senior Planner
The meeting began with a description of the changes made since the project was
submitted. Instead of a United Artist theater, the applicant is now Cinemark. Unless
otherwise noted, all responses are from the applicant or the consulting team.
QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS
1. Lets start with traffic. Did your trip generation numbers for Wilmington include
the existing traffic from the movie theatre?
A. Yes, plus the background traffic on the surrounding streets.
2. What is the total average daily trip generation for the center at build -out?
A. Approximately 12,000 trips.
3. How will the proposed signal on Timberline Road handle the peak traffic?
A. The most critical time frame is the afternoon peak. Traffic at this time is expected
to be about 1,600 trips. This means we expect about 800 trips into the center and 800
trips out between 4:30 and 6:30 p.m. during the weekday.
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