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HomeMy WebLinkAboutHARMONY VILLAGE PUD - PRELIMINARY ..... JANUARY 28 1998 NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING - 65 93C - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGNEIGHBORHOOD I4ORNIATION NIEETI1. s P1ON L�/�6 6 G N774' �—�8'9 Writ You 1Gcstion ,address. of this meeting? Name Address Zip yes No Yes No 7dr-'a G i 7 eG / I (oLt S Lcv-kA t Vk e6 L tfn Wl W N-) Po u t)QZ J h L Rt_71. S`( S Q ab3 AAA ee( o Dr. ,/. 41931 tlan,J.�. Z-- . Pam 5 a : a n o I o ck orf Cl kCeLOKk YeV& a-oou �oo�C 0rfi �r-t ft CollJAS Co 3oHtJ Eo�� 20i3 P-ocy-%vc- C-r VT COLuN5, 5 m P1S / 5.S OCl L�21r �1 Cvl( r��c PIER2C PE(CINET 29'95 S W604t -t�r -�C -' oDD G 6-1 S J812 Jet rn ixonF, Ci, FC , Cc 8G 5Z5 �ie�sz I b rY, b64K- I rnn ) OOM Isis m i!son C+. F C Co O S Z e ( x v -1 I I I 27. In general, I have a complaint about the generic, non-descript architecture of retail development on the south side of Fort Collins. I think I speak for many folks who feel our new shopping centers are prototypes of corporate architecture that can be found in any community. Why can't commercial development be more interesting with more local flavor? The Toddy's shopping center seems to create a neighborhood character that is superior to what has been built recently. A. Good comment. We will try to make our center interesting and be a credit to the neighborhood. 28. In that same vein, my wife and I do not like chain restaurants and will not patronize a corporate chain over a locally -owned restaurant. A. We are talking to the chain restaurants because that is the trend in today's economic climate. 29. Would it be possible to add sculpture or fountains or public features or something uplifiting rather than just buildings and parking lots? A. Good comment. We will look at this. 30. Pitched roofs are a good building form that helps promote neighborhood character. 31. Tasteful signs and cohesive graphics will help promote neighborhood character. A. These are good comments and will consider these suggestions in designing our center. G prices and late hours, these restaurants attract a young and loud crowd that is not compatible with our neighborhood. 19. Why 14 screens? Is there a market for this many? A. Yes, we think so. The multi -screen movie theatre is the trend in the industry. This reflects current thinking for marketing and economics. 20. Who are the potential retailers? A. We do not know yet. 21. Is there possibly a need for more restaurants in Fort Collins? Are we not saturated already? A. The marketing trends indicate that more people are dining out and will continue to do so. 22. Could the assisted living center ever become multi -family apartments? A. At this time, the plan indicates assisted living. If we change it to apartments, we will bring a revised plan back to the neighborhood for review and comment. We can commit, however, that this parcel will be residential and not commercial in order to provide a transition between the neighborhood and commercial center. 23. It would be my preference that the assisted living center be extended over to the west side of Wilmington Drive. I would rather have an assisted living center in my backyard than overflow parking for a movie theatre. 24. Will the existing trees on the corner of Harmony and Timberline be preserved? A. Yes, we will try to save as many as possible. 25. Its a shame that this property has to be devoted to commercial uses. The community would be better served by a branch library or other civic or non- commercial uses that enhance our quality of life. 26. Will the traffic associated with the future hospital development be factored into the traffic analysis? A. Yes. 5 12. Will movies start and end at staggered times? A. Yes. 13. Would it be possible to set up the street system so that our neighborhood streets allow for one-way traffic into the center but no traffic allowed to enter the neighborhood? A. We can look at this. 14. We live at the corner of Rockport and Delaney. You've put a parking lot across the street from our side yard., Is there any way to improve the buffering of this lot. We do not want to look at all those parked cars. A. Good comment. We can look at this to improve the buffering. 15. The same comment applies to the overflow parking in the southwest corner of the center, west of Wilimington Drive. I live on Jamison Court and there will be a parking lot in my backyard. There should be some significant buffering between my property and the parking lot. A. Again, we can look at this. 16. I'm concerned about lighting. The large parking lot will have lots of lighting which is not compatible with a residential neighborhood. A. At this point, we have not refined our design work to specify the type of lighting. The City will require that the lighting feature down -directional fixtures with a high cut-off lamp (like a shoebox) so that illumination covers a defined area and does not spill over onto the adjacent properties. As plans progress, we will have more information on lighting. 17. Why is the fast food/drive-through restaurant located so close to the neighborhood? Could this building be shifted further away? I am concerned about hours of operation, noise, loitering after the movies, littering, and rowdyism. A. This parcel was selected for the fast food/drive-through restaurant due to the ability to provide access. We understand your concerns and will look at better buffering. 18. The fast food/drive-through restaurant should be eliminated from the plan. This kind of restaurant would be better placed closer to 1-25 (Preston Shopping Center at Harmony Road and C.R. #9) to capture interstate traffic. With its low 6. 1 am concerned about the appearance along Timberline. Harmony Road gets the 80 foot buffer with the meadering sidewalk but Timberline Road represents the entrance to our neighborhood. We should get heavy landscaping and the meandering sidewalk on Timberline just like along Harmony Road. A. We can look into this. 7. Have the traffic consultants looked at the feasibility of a frontage road along Harmony Road? I'm thinking of the Toddy's shopping center and the access from Drake Road. A. We have not considered a frontage road due to the problems with congestion caused by cars stacking back onto the site as cars wait to get onto the arterial street. We think there will be too much traffic volume too close to Harmony causing too much conflict. For these reasons, we have not indicated a frontage road along Harmony Road. 8. I'm concerned that northbound cars on Timberline wanting to turn left to go west on Harmony Road will stack back so far that it will take several green arrow cycles to get through the intersection. A. Because of this potential, we are recommending double left turn lanes for this turning movement to handle the anticipated volume. 9. The Carmike 10-plex is suffering from poor access. Cars heading west before shows must wait to turn left to go south on Manhattan. Since the green arrow only lets a few cars through for each phase, cars stack back on Horsetooth Road almost back to College Avenue. Will the same problem happen here? A. We don't think so since most of the traffic will come from the north and west and be able turn right into the center. Only the cars coming from the south must turn left to get into the center. Our analysis indicates that the cars coming from the south does not represent very much volume. 10. How big is a 14-plex theatre? How many seats? A. We estimate that there will be 3,000 seats. The Carmike, by comparison, has about 1,300 seats. 11. How is the number of parking stalls determined? A. We allow for one parking space for every three seats 3 Street into the shopping center. Is this still the plan? The site plan shows Rockport staying open. A. The status of the Timberline/Rockport intersection has been the subject of much discussion among City Staff, the consulting team, and the developer. Although the original intention was to close Rockport at Timberline, there is now some debate in proposing to keep it open. The Poudre Fire Authority prefers the open option because of increased access to the neighborhood. The Planning Department has commented that the open status promotes connectivity to the city-wide street system. The traffic impact analysis will look at this issue. 3. It appears that when the theatre lets out all at once, there will be a bottleneck of traffic trying to exit the site to get onto Timberline. Cars exiting the site, wanting to go north, will have to get into a left turn stack lane to go north on Timberline. If only several cars can turn left with each green arrow, then cars will be backed onto the site for long period causing lots of frustration. These drivers will then learn to use our neighborhood streets to gain access to Timberline. A. We are aware of this potential. The traffic consultants will likely recommend to the City that the left turning vehicles exiting the site to go north on Timberline be given two lanes, not one. Double left turn lanes get more cars through on the green arrow and help keep traffic from backing up. As we mentioned, keeping this main access/Timberline Road intersection as uncongested as possible is a key ingredient in keeping traffic off local neighborhood streets. 4. Could you provide two exit points on Timberline Road? A. At this point, we have been told that only one access point onto Timberline will be allowed. If another one is allowed, it will definately not be signalized and will likely be limited to right-in/right-out turns only. 5. Is there any access in this area over to Lemay? A. The only access that is indicated on the City's Master Street Plan is the Battlecreek/Keenland connection over the U.P.R.R. tracks in Willow Springs. This connection is an unfunded capital project at this time. Ultimately, permission from the Colorado Public Utilities Commission must be obtained before an at - grade railroad crossing is approved. The connection would be funded by the City and is not the responsibility of,any one particular developer. NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING MINUTES PROJECT: Harmony Village Commercial Center DATE: January 25, 1998 APPLICANT: Dial Properties c/o J.F. Carter and Ty Fangman CONSULANTS: Linda Ripley, V-F Ripley Ruth Rollins, PLANNER: Ted Shepard The meeting began with a description of the proposed project. The center is 33 acres in size located at the southwest corner of Harmony Road and Timberline Road. The center is divided between 27 acres of commercial and retail uses and six acres of multi -family residential in the form of an assisted living center. The commercial portion would be anchored by a 14-plex movie theatre along with retail, standard and drive -through restaurants, bank and convenience store (with gas pumps). Unless otherwise noted, all responses are from the applicant and consultants. QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS 1. All efforts should be made to deter shopping center traffic from using neighborhood streets, especially Delaney Street which directly connects the neighborhood to the center. It appears that if shopping center customers cannot exit the site at the main points along Harmony and Timberline, then neighborhood streets will be used. A. We are aware of this potential for Delaney to be used for non - neighborhood traffic. The best solution is to keep the Timberline Road and the center's main access drive intersection as uncongested as possible. This would make using Delaney unnecessary by not giving drivers a reason to use local neighborhood streets. 2. At the time the Overall Development Plan was approved, Rockport was shown to be a temporary access only. Rockport was intended to be closed when secondary access to the neighborhood could be provided by extending Delaney