HomeMy WebLinkAboutHARMONY VILLAGE PUD ODP - 65 93 - SUBMITTAL DOCUMENTS - ROUND 8 - Minutes/NotesPlanning and Zoning Board
Meeting Minutes
November 15, 1993
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attention, then special precautions have been implemented into the plan to prevent the creation
of envirorunental influences adverse to- the preservation of these areas."
Planner Clark added the City's Natural Resources Division is one of the referral agencies and
staff works closely with them on proposals. When Natural Resources staff reviews a project
with concerns from a wildlife standpoint, the plans are referred on to the Colorado Division of
Wildlife and would give written concerns. At this point, staff relies on the fact that concerns
were not raised by the Natural Resources Department staff. Staff will revisit the proposal with
Natural Resources and Colorado Division of Wildlife prior to being submitted to the Board.
Member Walker commented the ODP meets many of requirements of the Comprehensive Plan
for development on Harmony. The elements are appropriate and useful and compatibility is
good. The housing mix is favorable for the area and affordable housing is good for Fort
Collins' need. It was his judgment with regard to wildlife winter feeding grounds and there will
always be some change in the wildlife habitat. The wildlife concerned tend to be opportunistic
in their feeding habits and he would guess the detention area would be a resting area for the
birds.
Member Walker moved to approve the Harmony Village PUD - Overall Development Plan,
including the condition of removing the single-family statement on the ODP.
Member Fontane seconded the motion.
Motion passed 5-0.
HARMONY CROSSING PUD - PRELIMINARY - #65-93A
Member Fontane moved for approval of the Harmony Crossing PUD - Preliminary with
- _ the condition stated in the staff report.
Member Walker seconded the motion.
Member Cottier echoed Member Walker's comments concerning the importance of adding this
type of housing to housing options as a whole not just to the south. It is also interesting to note
what can be done with just 4,500 feet relative to the east side and west side. Maybe some TDRs
could start.
Member Walker commented on the detention area treatment and it has been done very well. He
commended the developer for making creative use of it as a multi -use area. As a Board member
would like to encourage the Storm Drainage staff to view this as an asset during closer review.
It is an excellent model for other proposed detention areas.
Motion carried 5-0.
Meeting adjourned 11:47 p.m.
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Planner Olt stated he knew a traffic study had been done but was not aware of the results.
Because there will be improvements to both Timberline and Harmony at some future time, there
would be concerns regarding the volume of traffic generated.
Mr. Vaught said that Matt Delich conducted a traffic study for all of the proposed plans on
Timberline and Harmony viewing it in context of everything proposed as well as existing areas.
Chair Clements asked specifically regarding level of service for these traffic plans.
Mr. Vaught said it has been reviewed by the Transportation Department for compliance.
Chair Clements commented that traffic is becoming more and more an issue as Fort Collins
grows there are different levels of service and has to be D or better before it can get to the
Board.
Planner Olt read from the Executive Summary of the South Timberline Access Study and the
project's feasibility.
Chair Clements stated there were questions concerned about density and compatibility and asked
if this has been measured against the LDGS.
Planner Olt said that was correct.
Chair Clements asked how the density relates to the adjacent properties.
Planner Olt said there are 5.8 units per acre proposed and more detailed information could be
researched.
Member Winfree had a question regarding the railroad area width from this subdivision to Oak
Ridge.
Planner Olt stated that generally a railroad right-of-way is 100 feet.
Member Fontane commented on the wildlife and endangered species and asked if this area was
feeding ground or nesting ground.
Attorney Eckman said he didn't think there was any criteria about endangered species in the
LDGS. He stated it does address habitat specifically and says "if the site contains an area which
serves as a habitat, natural food source, nesting place, wintering place or source of watering
place identified by the Colorado Division of Wildlife as significant and particular need of
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Harmony and through this commercial area; (3) the increase in traffic on Timberline and with
other developments on either side of this arterial and safety issues.
Tom Goding - 1618 Redberry Ct. - He lives adjacent to the proposed development and has three
concerns: (1) the density, (2) amount and level of open spaces and (3) consideration of
compatibility of surrounding residential areas.
Jerry Dusbabek - owner of property to the south - He reported the problem of low-income
housing in Fort Collins and felt this project is excellent in the southern portion of our City.
They are of high quality and felt the Planning Board has an obligation to the City of Fort Collins
to get this type of housing to the south. He supported the approval of the plan.
CITIZEN INPUT CLOSED
Chair Clements asked about the concern of water fowl, -birds of prey and potential endangered
species in the area and has staff reviewed these concerns.
Planner Olt stated that Natural Resources has looked at the plan from the outset on the ODP
and PUD. The comments from this department concern hicycling connections and no concern
from the wildlife standpoint has been raised to date.
Chair Clements asked about the types of businesses that can locate in both shopping areas.
Planner Olt read directly from the point charts as guidelines for proposed uses and commented
the level of detail on a preliminary is not as specified as in the final. He first read from the
LDGS for Community Regional Shopping Centers and stated that industrial uses would not be
,considered.. The Neighborhood Convenience Shopping Center is a little more complicated, and
read from the LDGS the definition.
Chair Clements restated that anything that is proposed for this area will be presented to the
Board for final review and a time for public input.
Chair Clements asked about the safety concerns for the children from the junior high school.
Planner Clark stated the School District indicated the majority of the students will be bussed to
the school, boundaries for attendance extend north to Harmony Road, the walk-in students would
be limited to the mobile home park to the north side of Harmony Road.
Chair Clements asked about traffic concerns.
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Member Fontane asked concerning how the commercial will view the multi -family use.
Mr. Vaught referred to a slide to show the 80 foot buffer between uses. Secondary access and
other accesses were discussed, pedestrian connections and bicycle tie-ins with a collector street
are encouraged.
Chair Clements asked point of clarification that the inference that Phase 4 could develop into
single family could be removed from the ODP.
Mr. Vaught said no problem.
Chair Clements asked specific questions regarding Phase 4 of the railroad tracks and warehouses
and backyards of Phase 3.
Mr. Vaught said these are deeper lots. The railroad can be viewed as an amenity as open space,
citing 2 times a day the trains would be running, and did not consider it a nuisance. The tracks
are high and allow a bicycle crossing.
Chair Clements asked if there was consideration given to. Phase 4 for possibly paired housing
and duplexes and. Phase 1 a multi -family component to.add what she considered a mix of _
housing types.
Mr. Vaught said not in the standpoint of apartment multi -family, no. He felt that (1) Richland
Homes as applicant desired to build in a certain market place, (2) achieving twice what single-
family residential 3 units per acre with this plan at 6 units per acre. There is opportunity to
come in at 10-12 units in the multi -family plans and felt this was good mix of different housing
types.
CTTIZEN INPUT
Rick Soja - resident in Oak Ridge Village, adjacent to the development - His concerns were of
wildlife values of the ODP. He felt the comments of City Planning staff and the proposal did
not show these concerns were addressed: (1) water fowl interests, (2) birds of prey and (3)
endangered species. He said these values will be destroyed by development. He also cited the
value change with resident species. He felt more attention could be paid to increasing a buffer
_ with railroad areas. Encouraged the Board to take a larger view of wildlife habitat loss and
stated it is a prime value being lost and an issue to be addressed.
Irvine Christy - 1627 River Oak Drive - He had questions concerning (1) the types of businesses
being proposed in the park and its impact on traffic or chemicals, he saw no restrictions; (2)
he was concerned with the new junior high school, the safety of the children walking along
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of the commercial area and preliminary plans. He commented on the quality of the low-cost
housing offered and some of the design features and landscaping offered. The development will
be in 4 phases. He stated this proposal would not only be compatible but offer a nice transition
using 6-units to the acre. He was in agreement with staff recommendations and recommended
approval.
Member Cottier asked if the detention area would be completed with the first phase.
Mr. Vaught said the detention area is intended to be for the commercial use.
Member Cottier asked if there are ultimate plans to fence along Timberline.
Mr. Vaught said yes, and it would be a consistent fence design and had submitted some plans
to staff.
Member Cottier asked if fences are planned for detention areas.
Mr. Vaught said no and would like it to appear as a nice open space.
Mr. Walker asked what are the lot space sizes.
Mr. Vaught said a typical lot is 45 by 100 feet. Corner lots are larger and pie shaped. lots are
even larger.
Member Winfree asked regarding Area D, on the ODP drawing stated multi -family and small
writing says "or single family."
Mr. Vaught said he thought this was a change that had occurred since the color plan was done.
The intent would be, after adoption of the ODP, to submit a final development plan on the entire
parcel and at that time show more detail with the multi -family layout. They are not intending
to show it as multi -family and come back and say we changed our minds, we are in favor of the
land use as a transition to the commercial site. A paired housing concept is the intended
development.
Member Walker asked about the detention pond amenities and is this in harmony with the Storm
Drainage Utility Department.
Mr. Vaught further explained there are proposed grass courts for volleyball and no structures
are planned with the exception of picnic shelters. The pond is 2.8 acres with proposed steeper
grades.
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Member Fontane mentioned that was a work session discussion regarding this preliminary to
have the drainage run to the street.
Mr. Bartran said there will be rear -lot swales in the configuration as is seen now; if they were
turned and run parallel to the contours, there is no gradient to work from, it is too flat.
Therefore, grade requirements of the City of Fort Collins cannot be met. The issue of cost is
a big consideration in planning these designs.
Member Fontane moved to approve the English Ranch Subdivision, 4th Filing -
Preliminary, with the solar variance.
Member Walker seconded the motion.
Motion carried 5-0.
HARMONY VILLAGE PUD - OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN - #65-93
Steve Olt read the staff reportand noted he would present slides later. .
Member Walker asked about the Neighborhood Convenience Center next to the Community
Regional Shopping Center and asked for the rationale behind the plan.
Planner Olt indicated that they are separate uses and asked the applicant to answer specifics.
They are detached uses.
Member Walker asked about the detention areas shown and asked when they -would be built.
Planner Olt said the 2.8 acre detention area at the southeast corner of the ODP will be built with
the single-family residential, the next project. He referred this question to the applicant.
Planner Olt gave a slide presentation of the Harmony Village ODP and the Preliminary for
Harmony Crossing PUD.
Member. Cottier asked if the McClellend Channel is along the southern edge further south.
Planner Olt said yes.
Mr. Frank Vaught - Vaught -Frye Architects - He said he was representing two parties, one for
Mr. Les Kaplan with Kaplan Companies for Harmony Village and one for Harmony Crossing,
Richland Homes. Mr. Vaught gave a site slide presentation on traffic issues, and other specifics
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
November 15, 1993
Gerry Horak, Council Liaison
Tom Peterson, Staff Support Liaison
The November 15, 1993, meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at 6:35
p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall West, 300 Laporte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado.
Board members present included Chair Rene` Clements, Jan Cottier, Jennifer Fontane, Lloyd
Walker, and Sharon Winfree. Members Jim Manske and Bernie Strom were absent.
Staff members present included Chief Planner Sherry Albertson -Clark in Planning Director Tom
Peterson's absence, Deputy City Attorney Paul Eckman, Steve Olt, Ted Shepard, Kirsten
Whetstone, Kerrie Ashbeck, Mike Herzig, Kate Malers,. Ken Waido and Carolyn Worden.
AGENDA REVIEW
Planner Clark reviewed the Consent Agenda which consisted .of: Item 1 - Minutes of
September 27, October 25 and November 1, 1993; Item 2 - Windtrail on Spring Creek PUD
- Overall Development Plan, #66-93A; Item 3 - Windtrail Townhomes PUD - Preliminary,
#66-93; Item 4 - Miramont PUD, Tennis & Fitness Center - Preliminary, #5487K; Item 5 -
Save-Mor Self Storage PUD, 2nd Filing - Preliminary and Final; Item 6 - Raintree
Townhomes PUD - Final, #42-93A; Item 8 - 601-603 Mathews Street PUD., Preliminary and
Final, #68-93; Item 9 - A Big A Storage PUD, Final, #57-93A; Item 10 - Resolution PZ93-14
Access Easement Vacation; Item 11 - Resolution PZ93-15 Utility Easement Vacation; Item
12 - Resolution PZ93-16 Utility Easement Vacation; Item 13 - Modification of Conditions
of Approval.
Planner Clark reviewed the Discussion Agenda which included: Item 15 - Summerbill PUD -
Final, #41-93A; Item 17 - Brookside Village at Rock Creek PUD - Preliminary, #16-89E;
Item 19 - Spring Creek Farms Third (English Ranch ODP) - Amended Overall
Development Plan, #75-86K; Item 20 - English Ranch Subdivision, 4th Filing - Preliminary,
#75-86L; Item 21 - Harmony Village PUD - Overall Development Plan, #65-93; Item 22 -
Harmony Crossing PUD - Preliminary, #65-93A; Recommendation to Council Item 23 -
Amendment to the N-C-M Zone, #37-90.
Planner Clark stated there were requests for the N-C-M Zone to be moved up earlier in the
Discussion Agenda by several residents.
Chair Clements asked Attorney Eckman if it would be appropriate for the Board to change the
agenda.
Attorney Eckman replied if it was the pleasure of the Board, however, it would take a vote of
the Board.