HomeMy WebLinkAboutMARSEE PUD - PRELIMINARY & FINAL - 14-95 - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESPlanning and Zoning Board Minutes
May 22, 1995
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Member Clements stated that she understood where the Board members were coming
from and is supportive of overall planning and putting her weight behind the West
Central Neighborhood Plan. She would like to have this plan in place before spot zoning
occurs.
The motion passed 4-3 with Members Walker, Strom and Clements in the negative.
FIVE OAKS VILLAGE/CUNNINGHAM CORNER DETENTION POND. (TRACT C),
REFERRAL OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE - #4-83G
Planner Ted Shepard gave a summary of the referral with Staff recommending approval.
Member Strom asked for a summary of the response from the neighborhood meeting.
Mr. Shepard stated that the response from the neighbors that attended the meeting, as
well as the formal response from the Five Oaks Village Homeowners Association, was
positive. He added that they believed it was in the long term maintenance interest to go
to more drought -tolerant species and to finish the pond. He stated that this pond needs
to be established before the City will take over maintenance, which is two growing
seasons and is through irrigation.
Member Carnes asked if the path that connects to Gunnison Drive is going to be access
granted.
Mr. Shepard stated that there was no discussion regarding this. He stated the path is
part of a platted multi -family project. This request does not include any platted
easements and that it will wind its way through a private development.
Glen Schlueter, City Storm Water Department, stated that in order for the City to take
over the maintenance, Tract 2 will be deeded to the City so it will become public
property.
CITIZEN INPUT
Eric Fellers, who lives north of the detention pond, stated that he has lived next to this
unfinished pond for over 10 years and fully supports what the applicant is wanting to do
with the pond. He encouraged the City to be financially involved in this pond.
CITIZEN INPUT CLOSED
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Member Cottier asked for more information about the restrictive covenants that expired.
Ms. Marsee replied that the covenants stated that an additional two-story would have to
be granted. The covenants were established in the early 1960s and would expire 20
years after that unless the neighborhood upheld them, which they did not.
Deputy City Attorney Eckman stated that the Board needs to address the variance
request as a separate motion.
Member Walker moved to deny the variance request due to a lack of criteria for
granting such a variance request.
Member Strom seconded the motion.
Member Cottier stated that she would not support the motion because the reason for
granting a variance is that it would be detrimental to the public good and that the plan
submitted is "equal to or better than" because the plan submitted has no visual impact.
She believed that Ms. Marsee's points that moving the house either direction are
significant and that if they were willing to commit income guidelines for affordable
housing they would have the points made.
The motion to deny the request did not carry on a vote of 4-3 with Members
Cottier, Fontane, Carnes and Bell in the negative.
Member Cottier moved to grant the variance on the grounds that it would not be
detrimental to the public good and that the plans submitted are "equal to or better
than" such a plan incorporating provisions for which a variance is requested.
Member Bell seconded the motion.
The motion passed 4-3 with Members Walker, Strom and Clements in the negative.
Member Cottier moved to approve Marsee PUD Preliminary and Final.
Member Bell seconded the motion.
Member Cottier stated that she was persuaded because of the nature of the surrounding
area, which is primarily rental, and her interpretation of the point chart in not
substantiating the requirement for a variance.
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neighborhood. She believed this would be a more significant evaluation of the character
of the neighborhood.
Deputy City Attorney Eckman stated that, in reviewing the variance, there is a two part
test, one being to decide whether the granting of a variance would be detrimental to the
public good or would impair the intents and purposes of the LDGS and the other part
being finding whether one of the four circumstances to exist regarding the granting of the
variance, whether it be an unusual circumstance that creates a hardship or "equal to or
greater than". He added that there is nothing in the Staff Report nor presented in the
way of facts to support Item 3, that the project does not comply with Criteria A 1.2. He
suggested that whatever motion is made, that this not be one of the findings.
Member Strom responded to Member Cottier's statement by stating he believed there
was more to a neighborhood character than visual character. He did not believe that
one or two additional cars would be a problem but, on the same basis, he does not find
anything unusual about this property compared to other properties in the neighborhood.
Member Fontane stated that the majority of the housing is rental units and the character
of the neighborhood has already been set.
Member Walker stated that there was no finding of fact along those lines and if that were
the case, it is an illegal situation which the Board cannot base their case on.
Member Carnes concurred with Member Cottier that it would not alter the appearance of
the neighborhood. He added that if this were to set a precedence for doing this
elsewhere in the neighborhood, he believed that the only place to have this would be on
a corner lot. He believed that a basement apartment would be the most affordable in the
community. He was concerned about the future redevelopment of the neighborhood if
this should occur.
Member Strom responded to Member Carnes' comment regarding placing this on a
corner lot, that there is no requirement that an apartment has to have direct access to
the street or alley.
Ms. Marsee stated that the setbacks on the sides of the houses are not wide enough to
allow for a garage. She stated that if they moved their house west they would receive
more points on the chart and if they moved it towards Prospect, they would be in another
zoning area. She stated that they are capable of doing this application under the
standards required because of the size yard they have being a corner lot.
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Chairman Clements asked if there were any neighborhood comments or concerns
regarding the revised plan.
Mr. Ludwig stated that Staff did not receive any calls regarding the revised plan. He
stated that initially the applicant proposed a two story addition which Staff had concerns
with meeting the architectural compatibility of the neighborhood. He stated that in
discussions with the applicant, it was suggested that a basement apartment be
proposed. The majority of the letters received opposed a second dwelling unit being
added, not just a two story addition.
Member Walker observed that the point is set up to suggest, in this situation, what is
being asked to be done is somehow more than the system is comfortable allowing. He
believed that this proposal is overstepping the limits of what the system is interpreted by
the LDGS. The criteria isn't there to grant a
variance. He was uncomfortable with this project and believed it was not in character
with the residential area.
Member Bell commented that she could relate to the applicant wanting this project
however the spot zoning aspect should not occur.
Member Walker stated that in the meetings with the West Central Neighborhood
Committee, which he is the P&Z liaison, this type of area is one of the areas that is of
concern in the planning process because the older ranch style homes need
improvements. But how is the vitality kept in this neighborhood.
Member Cottier stated that this was a problematic situation. She stated that the Board
grants variances to the point chart quite often. She had concerns with the compatibility
with the neighborhood and has no opposition if there is no objections to the physical
appearance of the residence. She appreciated the idea of wanting to preserve the
character of the neighborhood however, if this is one of the few owner -occupied
structures in the neighborhood, this would be another inconsistent criticism.
Member Strom commented that if he were to vote for a change in the point chart for this
property, he would question what grounds he would have for not voting for all the
neighbors to do the same thing.
Member Cottier replied that she, personally, would review them on a case -by -case basis
based on the architectural impact in terms of changing the physical appearance of the
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Member Cottier made a motion to recommend to City Council to adopt the
Implementation Ordinance.
Member Bell seconded the motion.
The motion passed 7-0.
MARSEE RESIDENTIAL ADDITION PUD - PRELIMINARY AND FINAL - #14-95
Planner Mike Ludwig gave a summary of the proposed project with Staff recommending
denial due to the project failing to meet Criteria 1 of the Residential Uses Point Chart and
All Development Criteria A 1.2 of the LDGS..
Jeani Marsee, 1320 Southridge Drive and applicant, stated that this project did meet 90
of the 100 points required for approval. She stated that they would rent this apartment to
a single mother or father with a child, not to several single college students. She added
that the neighborhood was in favor of this project. She believed that they are complying
with regulations and that they would removing one car from the street with the addition of
a garage. She stated that the majority of the homes in the area are rental units.
CITIZEN INPUT
Emily Smith, President of the Prospect/Shields Neighborhood Association and member
of the West Central Neighborhoods Advisory Committee, stated that the association
opposes residential zoning changes such as this project. This area is currently the most
densely populated area of the city. She questioned how much of the City's population
and density loads should the neighborhoods next to CSU carry. How much longer will
city policies, which are transportation and air quality driven, attempt to dictate that this
area of the city is to bear the brunt of these policies at great sacrifice to the quality of our
neighborhoods. She stated that they request that the Board deny approval of this
project.
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Chairman Clements asked what is the current mechanism for a citizen complaint should
there be illegal renters in the neighborhood.
Mr. Ludwig replied that the process would be through the Building Inspections and
Zoning Department as a zoning violation.
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The following items will be heard at the June 5, 1995 Planning and Zoning Board
hearing:
20. Recommendation to City Council Regarding the Adoption of the
Fort Collins/Loveland Corridor Management Plan
21. #60-91M Pinecone PUD, The Tower Shoppes - Final
22. #42-89C Timberline Farms PUD - Diamond Shamrock Cornerstore -
Preliminary
Deputy City Attorney Eckman stated that an updated resolution of Item 13 was
distributed to the Board which includes the existing irrigation lateral, not just the one that
was shown on the new plat, and the exhibits. He stated that this item will not need to be
pulled from the Consent Agenda.
Director Blanchard pulled Item 11 from the Consent Agenda and requested that it be
placed on the June 5 discussion agenda.
Member Cottier moved that Item 18, Huntington Hills Pud, Fifth Filing Final be
moved to the Consent Agenda.
Member Fontane seconded the motion.
Member Bell abstained from voting on moving Item 18 to the Consent Agenda due to a
conflict of interest.
The motion passed 5-0.
Member Strom arrived at this time.
Member Fontane moved to approve Consent Items 2, 3, 4, 5, 12, 13, 14 and 15.
Member Cottier seconded the motion.
The motion passed 7-0.
Member Fontane moved to approve Consent Item 18.
Member Carnes seconded the motion.
The motion passed 6-0.
PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MINUTES
Regular Meeting - May 22,1995
6:30 p.m.
Council Liaison: Gina Janett I Staff Liaison: Bob Blanchard
Chairman: Rene Clements Phone: 221-0406 (W
Vice Chairman: Jan Cottier Phone: 221-3953 (H)
The meeting was called to order at 6:36 p.m. by Chairman Rene Clements.
Roll Call: Walker, Strom, Cottier, Clements, Fontane, Carnes, Bell.
Staff Present: Blanchard, Shepard, Olt, Eckman, Ludwig, Ashbeck, Deines.
Agenda Review: Director of Current Planning Bob Blanchard reviewed the Consent and
Discussion agendas. The Consent Agenda items are as follows:
1.
(Continued) Minutes of the November 14, December 19, 1994 and January
23, 1995 Planning and Zoning Board hearings.
2.
#15-95
Prospect Greens PUD - Preliminary
3.
#16-95
Choice Child Care, Enlarged Daycare PUD - Preliminary and
Final
4.
#17-96
Rafferty's PUD - Preliminary
5.
#75-86R
English Ranch PUD, 6th Filing - Final
6.
#11-94B
Westbury PUD, 2nd Filing - Final (Continued)
7.
#81-93C
Indian Hills Village PUD - Amended Final
8.
Resolution PZ95-12 - Abandonment of a Portion of Indian Hills
West PUD and a Portion of the Indian Hills Village PUD
9.
#81-93B
Indian Hills Village PUD, Phase 2 - Preliminary and Final
10.
#53-85AK
Centre for Advanced Technology, 17th Filing, Phase 2 - Final
11.
# 5-96
Rocky Mountain Auto PUD - Preliminary and Final (Continued)
12.
Modifications of Conditions of Final Approval
13.
Resolution PZ95-14 Easement Vacation
14.
#63-7913
Resolution PZ95-13 - Abandonment of Lake Street Townhomes
PUD
15.
#23-95
Recommendation to City Council Regarding Boxelder
Sanitation District, Expanded Lagoon System - Referral
Discussion
Agenda:
16.
#19-95
Recommendation to City Council Regarding the
Eastside/Westside Design Guidelines
17.
18.
#14-95
#11-81M
Marsee Residential Addition PUD - Preliminary and Final
Huntington Hills PUD, Fifth Filing - Final (Moved to Consent
Agenda)
19.
#4-83
Cunningham Comer/Five Oaks Village - Referral of an
Administrative Change.