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30. I just want to go on record that some of the neighborhood
folks here tonight may not realize who hired these
consultants. The developer hired the consultants_ and they
work for him. They do not work for the City and do not
represent the public interest. The City Planning Department
should do a better job of properly introducing all the
players at the beginning of the meeting so it is clear who
represents what interest. The lack of proper introductions
causes confusion.
31. Would it be possible for Ed Mullaney to pay for a third
crosswalk guard due to all the children that would be
crossing new driveway on Shields Street.
A. RESPONSE FROM DEVELOPER: This will be considered.
32. What will happen to the wetland area?
A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: The city owns the easement for
the wetlands as part of a larger east/west drainage system
and the wetlands will be preserved.
33. I want to express my appreciation for the traffic
consultants efforts here to night. They have done a great
job with lots of good information.
34. The developer should know that the wetlands should not be
used as a storm sewer. Runoff from the parking lot should
not be.discharged directly into the wetlands.
A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: We will design the storm drainage
system in accordance with the requirements of the Stormwater
Utility.
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A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: We can have the buses pull into a
deceleration lane and travel further south to get away from
the intersection before arriving at a dead stop at their bus
stop. We need to coordinate with Transfort on this idea.
25. A signal at Prospect and Stone Creek Drive (west edge of the
property and shared with apartments) is not warranted.
26. Who will pay.for the oversizing improvements?
A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: Mr. Mullaney will be donating 18
feet of his property along Shields Street for an easement,
and that is property he can not use. Also, the City has a
street oversizing fund that will cover that portion of the
public improvements not required of the developer. It is
our understanding that the public improvements along
Prospect are now complete.
27. Even after all your recent improvements to the intersection
at Shields and Prospect, it still went from a level "D" to a
level "E" during the afternoon rush hour?
A. RESPONSE FROM CITY: Yes, it did. Keep in mind that there
is a substantial amount of new growth in Ft. Collins to the
southwest which uses Shields to get to C.S.U. and other
employers in downtown.
28. I feel Transfort should travel further south to Stuart
Street before stopping instead of stopping so close to the
intersection of Prospect and Shields.
A. RESPONSE FROM CITY: A bus stop can be moved, easily, and
independent of a P.U.D. The issue will be how the transit
route is affected in terms of lining up with the northbound
stop. Usually, both the northbound and southbound stops are
across the street from each other. Moving the southbound
stop may have to be matched by moving the northbound stop.
Also, we must look at how this affects transfers to the
Prospect route if there is a crossing of routes.
29. I highly oppose a left turn lane from Shields Street into
the site.
A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: This is a fair comment. The
purpose of proposing this drive cut would be to reduce the
potential number of trips from having to use the
intersection to make a left turn to gain sole access from
Prospect Road. A left -in off Shields would siphon off some
of these turn movements and help relieve the congestion at
the intersection. The city will install a median at Shields
Street to control the turns.
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18. The purpose of the analysis is to find ways to reduce
congestion at the intersection, especially during the P.M.
peak. One way to do this is to provide a left turn into the
site from Shields, between Prospect and Hobbit. In
addition, making the northbound Shields to westbound
Prospect a double left instead of just a single left would
increase the efficiency during the left turn green phase.
These two measures could improve the intersection so it
climbs back up to level of service "D".
19. Ms. Clear's presentation was very good and enlightening. We
appreciate that. My question is how does the proposal
impact turn movements at Hobbit?
A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: I calculate that there is a nine
car gap between the proposed left turn and existing Hobbit.
This should be sufficient so you don't have "interlocking
lefts" competing for space in the same left turn lane.
20. As mentioned at the last meeting, the proposal to introduce
a left turn off Shields must consider the number of children
using the sidewalk to get to,Bennett Elementary.
A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: We are aware that the sidewalk is
heavily used during the school year.
21. What does the City think about this left turn off Shields?
A. RESPONSE FROM CITY: We think it raises a lot of issues and
that it needs more study. We are not in a position to
approve it at this time. For example, a northbound double
left on Shields may require shifting the southbound lanes to
the west to make room. This is where Council decided not to
build a right -turn lane.
22. As a property owner on the west side of Shields Street, it
is my belief that the land purchased for right-of-way was
for a right -turn lane only, not for anything else. I would
have to look at the language of the acquisition/easement but
I do not recall the land being able to be used just to move
the southbound lanes further west.
23. I live on the north side of Prospect Road. I fully support
a left -in turn off Shields to serve the project. This will
place fewer vehicles in front of my house.
24. What can be done to get vehicles out of the line of traffic
when buses are stopped on Shields Street by this project?
The double left turn seems to push left turning vehicles
directly into the parked bus. This is dangerous.
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12. Please note the height of the drugstore will be 20 feet and
the building will be lower than Shields Street.
13. I would like to see an elevation map taken from Shields
Street.
14. How much fill will be placed on this site?
A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: Possibly 6 to 7 feet of fill will
be necessary to obtain positive drainage. Most of this fill
will be in the northeast corner of the site, close to the
intersection. The site will slope to the south for drainage
and the site levels out with Prospect Road to the west.
15. I live across the street from where the proposed drugstore
will be built and I'm concerned about the lighting that will
occur all night long.
A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: We are sensitive to lighting
concerns. Lighting specifications on a P.U.D. are usually
addressed at Final.
RESPONSE FROM CITY: By way of example, look at the lighting
out at Sam's Club along the perimeter. This is low level
parking lot lighting designed to help buffer Fairway
Estates. At the same time, notice the level of street
lighting on Boardwalk, which is a collector street.
Arterials and collector streets require substantially higher
levels of illumination than do commercial parking lots due
to traffic levels. Sam's Club has parking lot lighting that
is reduced in height and directed downward. In other words,
you may find that the existing public street lighting on
Prospect and Shields is brighter and higher than the private
commercial parking lot lighting.
16. Yes, but it's not just the parking lot lighting I'm
concerned about, it's also the lights from cars that will
glare in one's windows.
A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: This is a good comment. The cars
parked facing Prospect will be lower than the street level
on the eastern part of the site. On the western part of the
site, the landscaping may have to be enhanced to screen
headlights. The landscape plan will be designed to minimize
headlight glare.
17. A traffic count was done at Prospect and Shields during the
peak hours, 7:30 to 8:30 AM and 4:30 to 5:30 PM. During the
morning the level of service is at "D" and during the
evening the level of service is at "E". All the surrounding
areas and pending developments were taken into consideration
as background for this study.
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A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: This project will have to meet
ADA codes before any building permits will be issued. There
may be some sidewalk connections that do not meet ADA but
alternative routes will exist. There is no intention to not
fully comply with ADA.
6. Handicap people might arrive by bus. Is there a way for
them to enter the project once off the bus?
A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: We haven't quite decided where
the buses will have their bus stops yet, but this will be
addressed. We are discussing relocation of the southbound
bus stop with the City but nothing has been decided at this
Preliminary stage.
7. Do you think the architectural design of this project will
be too inviting to crime and juveniles hanging out there at
night? Are there too many hidden spots?
A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: There are ways to help deter them
from gathering here at night and one way is appropriate
lighting.
8. What will be the hours of operation for the services here?
Residents living on the north side of Prospect Road would
not appreciate a 24-hour service of operation.
A. RESPONSE FROM DEVELOPER: As developers, we are not
anticipating any tenants needing a 24-hour operation. We
respect the concern over not wanting a 24-hour business and
would be willing to limit our tenants to specific hours.
9. Can there be in the P.U.D. something written to where no
liquor licenses will be sold and no 24-hour operations will
be considered on this site?
A. RESPONSE FROM DEVELOPER: We might want to have a deli on
the site that can sell wine and beer possibly in a sit-down
atmosphere. As landlords, we do not desire to rent to a
liquor store or a bar.
10. Would you agree to place covenants on the property?
A. RESPONSE FROM DEVELOPER: Yes.
11. Will my view of the foothills be obstructed as I drive by on
Shields Street?
A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: Yes it will to some extent,
however, you should be able to see the foothills when you
are past one of the proposed buildings, before you get to
another one.
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SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING MINUTES
PROJECT: Prospect Park
DATE: May 25, 1995
APPLICANT: Mullaney Property, Edward Mullaney
CONSULTANTS: Linda Ripley, Ripley and Associates
Becky Spears, Aller-Lingle Architects
Ruth Clear, Traffic Consultant
PLANNER: Ted Shepard
OTHER STAFF: Tom Vosburg, Transportation Planner
Teresa Lucero, City Planner
The applicants, The Mullaney Family, are proposing a Planned Unit
Development (P.U.D.) for a mix of retail and office uses on 6.7
acres. As proposed, the anchor tenant would be Payless Drugstore
in a 15,000 sq. ft. building. Other proposed uses are a two-
story medical office, a two-story bank, and multi -tenant retail
building. The developer's presentation included a discussion of
the site plan, transportation, and architecture.
QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS
1. Land uses are the same as last meeting we attended with the
addition of one other triangular building added in the
southwest corner. This building would be an office.
2. The sidewalks along Shields Street will be widened to 8
feet.
3. There will be pedestrian bike paths all along the project
and pedestrian walkways within the project to reach all the
buildings. Please note the sidewalk on the south along the
edge of the drainage easement.
4. Will there be stop signs placed inside the project?
A. RESPONSE FROM CONSULTANT: Not initially. They will be
installed by the stores if necessary later. All signs are
regulated by the Sign Code and must be reviewed before a
sign permit is issued.
5. Will there be handicap access to the sidewalks?.
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