HomeMy WebLinkAboutPOUDRE VALLEY PLAZA PUD - PRELIMINARY - 30-95A - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESPlanning and Zoning Board Minutes
August 21, 199Z
Page,kr
Member Mickelsen seconded the motion.
The motion passed 7-0.
Member Strom moved to approve Poudre Valley Plaza PUD Preliminary with the
following conditions: 1) That at the time of final, the Board would like to see, if at
all possible in working with utilities, additional landscaping worked into the west
and north frontages; 2) That at the time of final, the Board would like to see a
thorough examination of pedestrian access to the site, and; 3) That the
architectural concept in intended for all of the pad sites of the property.
Member Mickelsen seconded the motion.
Member Walker commented that he would support the motion because in the final
analysis, the extension of Arbor Avenue will be a benefit to the neighborhood. There
are methods to preventing cut through traffic with stop signs and other traffic calming
measures.
Member Strom commented that he concurred with Member Walker in terms of the
extension of Arbor Avenue. He commented that this site has, architecturally, the
potential of being a landmark in south Fort Collins. However, he had concerns about
corporate architecture coming in on some pad sites particularly restaurants. He
believed it would be a serious mistake to let go of the concept that has been presented
on sites for the sake of a fast food restaurant. In terms of pedestrian access, it is the
Board's business to make sure that the applicant is handling it well. He did not believe
that the site is very friendly from the four corners entrance and would like to see this
improved upon at final.
The motion to approve carried 7-0.
RAFFERTY'S PUD - FINAL - #17-95A
Steve Olt, Project Planner, gave the Staff Report recommending approval with the
condition that the development agreement, final utility plans, and final PUD plans for the
planned unit development be negotiated between the developer and City Staff and
executed by the developer prior to the second monthly meeting (October 23, 1995) of
the Planning and Zoning Board.
Member Strom asked how much of this parking is necessary for the restaurant.
Planning and Zoning Board Minutes
August 21, 199�
Page 7
Mr. Kehler stated that he didn't believe there would be people walking along the Shields
side as busy as that street is. He pointed out that it would be just as easy, from a
pedestrian standpoint, to enter these buildings on the interior side because there is
access at three different locations.
Member Walker asked if the area between the sidewalk and the curb could be
increased to 15 feet and then trees planted.
Mr. Herzig replied that there are existing utilities but believed that this was a suggestion
that the applicant and utilities could work out.
Fred Croche, Wheeler Commercial Property Services, stated that they are trying to
work it out to increase the landscaping along Shields and along Horsetooth. The utility
drawings that the Board has are not the only easement that is causing a problem.
Additional utilities want to share the easement along Shields and Horsetooth which the
existing utilities do not want to share. There has been several discussions with utilities
and Staff to give the perimeter sidewalks more character. These issues will be worked
out between preliminary and final. The sidewalks will be put where the utilities will
allow.
Member Davidson asked if the easement scenario doesn't work out, can parking areas
be rearranged or eliminated to where pads C, B and A could be set back further to
accomplish the same.
Mr. Croche replied that the site is one that is economically tight and the parking is
needed to make the buildings work, and need the buildings and square footage to make
the site work.
Chairperson Carnes asked if these buildings were to be two or three story buildings and
what kind of exterior materials would be on the sides of buildings that face Shields
Street.
Mr. Lockwood replied that there will nothing more than two story built on this entire
project. The rear of the buildings face Century Drive and it is their intent to make these
buildings neighborhood friendly. All service entrances will be in the front of the
buildings. This will be the same for the entire project with covenants.
Member Strom moved to approve the First Amendment to Four Seasons Overall
Development Plan, Parcel H-1.
Planning and Zoning Board Minutes
August 21, 199Z
Page 6
pressure at that intersection. Even with that improvement, there may be some traffic
that cuts through on Arbor Avenue. Century Drive will be the most direct and most
immediate opportunity for the traffic to get back to where its ultimately going. Providing
a connection out to Shields will help traffic from the Four Seasons development get
northbound on Shields. He added that the majority of the cut through traffic of the
Arbor Avenue extension would not go all the way to Tradition Avenue.
Member Strom questioned if a stop sign control would be placed at the intersection of
Arbor and Century avenues.
Mr. Vosburg replied that there would be a good likelihood that a stop sign would be
warranted.
Member Bell asked if the sidewalks will be "user-friendly".
Mr. Herzig stated that the sidewalk along Horsetooth Road detached from the curb and
setback 10 feet, as with Shields Street.
Mr. Kehler stated that the sidewalk would be 10 feet back from Shields Street and that
landscaping would be added depending upon the restrictions of the utilities.
Member Bell asked for_clarification of the 75% parking in a structure.
Mr. Olt replied that 14 garage units in Building G, which will be residential, are
proposed.
Mr. Lockwood stated that with the size of the footprint, garages can be built at the
ground level facing Arbor Avenue. These units will be 2 and 3 bedroom units, between
1200 and 1600 square feet.
Member Mickelsen questioned if the building would be buffered from the sidewalk.
Mr. Kehler responded that along Shields, there are three sidewalks that penetrate the
site. He demonstrated these locations by using the slides of the project. The project is
being designed to provide access to the retail areas without restrictions.
Member Mickelsen encouraged the applicant to consider providing an entrance to the
Shields side.
Planning and Zoning Board Minutes
August 21, 19W
Page 5 S
Member Strom asked for clarification of the direct pedestrian access to the external part
of the site.
Mr. Kehler replied that there is a perimeter walkway and on all sides of the site there is
sidewalk access which penetrates into the interior of the site. There will not only be
cross circulation, but also across each one of the storefronts.
Member Colton asked for comments on the landscaping along Shields by pads B and C
and to the west of pad A.
Mr. Kehler replied that there is a 15 foot easement along Shields and along Horsetooth.
As a result of those easements, plant material could not be successfully located on the
Shields and Horsetooth sides as on the other sides. Through discussions on this, they
would like to come back and add more trees along the street in some manner. There
will be berming between the buildings and the sidewalks all the way around the project.
Mr. Olt added that Staff met with the Utilities impacted by this development. There are
exclusive utilities along Shields and Horsetooth at this time which could preclude the
ability to do a standard street tree concept. They are still in the process of identifying
what can and cannot occur there.
CITIZEN INPUT
Ken Arbuillo, 925 Arbor Avenue, had concerns with the extension of Arbor Avenue. He
stated that the beauty of Four Seasons is that vehicles cannot cut through this
development. If Arbor Avenue is made to come straight through which vehicles would
use as a shortcut. He had safety concerns with this. He suggested that if this road
must be extended, it be a one way street, out only.
Bill Swibby, 913 Arbor Avenue, also had concerns with the extension of Arbor Avenue.
He stated that one good thing is that it would allow a right turn to vehicles going north.
He concurred with Mr. Arbuillo that this would be a cut through street. He asked if one
of the proposed buildings was to be a three story.
Roland Berry, 3731 Coronado Avenue, had no problems with this project.
CITIZEN INPUT CLOSED
Tom Vosburg, representative of City Transportation Department, stated that there will
be an additional right turn lane at Shields and Horsetooth which will reduce some of the
Planning and Zoning Board Minutes
August 21, 19"
Page 4
Deputy City Attorney Eckman added that, with regards to building elevations, one of the
requirements of the Land Development Guidance System is that preliminary
architectural elevations for all buildings sufficient to convey the basic architectural intent
of the proposed improvements has to be submitted. He stated that if the Board feels
uncomfortable with that, they should discuss this with the applicant.
Member Davidson asked that the applicant verify the intent that all the pads have
consistent architecture.
Tom Kehler, of Jim Sell Designs, briefly discussed site's circulation system and the
parking. He added that the landscaping design will soften the site. The theme of this
project is a pioneer theme and the type of architecture one would find in the New
Orleans area. On Buildings E and F, the first story is recessed about 4 feet below
grade with stairs leading up and down to the levels of the building.
Dana Lockwood, architect for this project, described the thought phases of the concept
of this project. He stated that to get the square footage required for this project would
necessitate more than one story but no more than two but not to let the architecture
stand out of scale of the neighborhood, therefore retail areas would be in a courtyard
form with the upper story used for office space. It is the intent of the developer and the
design team to have three of the buildings designed in preliminary form prior to final
submittal. At that time, in addition to pads E and F, the bank building on the corner as
well as the multi -use building on the south of the property, would be designed.
Member Walker asked for details of the materials and colors of the roof and walls.
Mr. Lockwood replied that colors have not been finalized yet. The materials are
intended to be a standing seam metal product for the roof. It is also the intent of the
developer to have architectural control or guidelines to regulate materials and colors of
the buildings.
Member Walker commented that this was very important.
Deputy City Attorney Eckman remarked that the City Code requires that there be final
architectural elevations presented as part of the final submittal packet. He added that
he didn't want any expectations of the colors proposed tonight if this was not the intent.
Mr. Lockwood responded that the actual materials have not been finalized on the
masonry. The material would affect the color.
Planning and Zoning Board Minutes
August 21, 19917
Page 3
Avenue extension. They would continue on into the center along all the islands with
specific pedestrian connections that have been defined by paving materials. He
demonstrated the pattern on slides of the project. There will be ramps and pedestrian
crosswalks and attached sidewalks by the patio homes to the east that are under
construction.
Mr. Olt gave staff presentation for the Amendment to Four Seasons ODP
recommending approval.
Member Walker asked if the density would be increased from 13 Du/acre to 17 Du/acre
and if this was a concern of the Staff.
Mr. Olt replied that this was not a concern of the Staff and that the overall density of the
entire Four Seasons development would change from 6.1 to 6.5 DU/acre which is still
within the range that was originally approved on the ODP.
Member Mickelsen asked if the street on the south border of this project is intended to
be built out.
Mr. Olt replied that the extension of Arbor Avenue will be built out immediately.
Member Colton asked about the bike lane circulation along Shields and Horsetooth.
Mr. Olt stated that they would defer the answer to this question after the presentation of
Poudre Valley Plaza PUD.
Mr. Olt gave a presentation for Poudre Valley Plaza PUD Preliminary recommending
approval.
Mr. Herzig stated that there are existing shoulders on the unimproved portions of
Shields Street. Improvements will be completed, i.e., curb, gutter and sidewalks and
widening out the pavement for the full arterial standard. The bike lane striping would be
similar to what has been striped at Elizabeth and Shields on the new Shields right turn
lane. The bike lanes would remain as they are on Horsetooth Road.
Member Colton asked if having the bike lane down the middle of two lanes is safe.
Mr. Herzig responded that this is the standard practice.
Planning and Zoning Board Minutes
August 21, 1999
Page 2 `'
Member Colton moved to approve Consent Agenda Items 1, 40 5 and 6. .
Member Bell seconded the motion.
The motion to approve passed 7-0.
FIRST AMENDMENT TO FOUR SEASONS OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
PARCEL H-1-430.95
POUDRE VALLEY PLAZA PUD - PRELIMINARY - #30-95A
Member Strom requested a sense of the change in intensity of use for the Four
Seasons ODP and clarification of pedestrian access and orientation of Poudre Valley
Plaza PUD.
Steve Olt, Project Planner, replied that, in the Four Seasons ODP, this is a 30 acre
parcel of the approved ODP that had previously been approved for multi -family,
residential at a density of 10-20 DU/acre. This amendment is for a portion of the 30
acre site, 7.6 acres, at the southeast corner of Shields and Horsetooth to allow a
commercial proposal in lieu of the multi -family. Included in this commercial project is
retail, financial with drive-thru, office space, restaurants with no drive-thru and a small
component of residential uses.
Member Strom asked if the remainder of the site stays in multi -family development.
Mr. Olt replied that this is correct.
Member Strom asked, with regard to Poudre Valley Plaza PUD, for clarification of the
architectural concept.
Mr. Olt stated that this would establish an architectural intent for the center. The
concept is only one building of the plaza and presented slides of the concept. The
materials would not be defined until final approval. This concept is intended for all the
pad sites.
Member Strom asked for clarification of the non -auto circulation pattern within, between
and surrounding the site.
Mr. Olt replied that there will be detached sidewalks along Shields Street and
Horsetooth Road. Attached sidewalks would be along Century Drive and the Arbor
The meeting was called to order at 6:37 P.M.
Roll Call: Bell, Walker, Davidson, Colton, Strom, Mickelsen, Carnes.
Staff Present: Blanchard, Olt, Eckman, Herzig, Vosburg, Schlueter, Deines.
Agenda Review: Current Planning Director Blanchard reviewed the consent and
discussion agendas. The consent agenda items are as follows:
1.
#29-95
Freight Depot PUD - Preliminary
2.
#30-96
First Amendment to Four Seasons Overall Development Plan,
ParcelH-1
3.
#30-95A
Poudre Valley Plaza PUD - Preliminary
4.
#15-95A
Harmony Market PUD, 11th Filing - Final
5.
Resolution PZ95-19 Easement Vacation
6.
Modifications of Conditions of Final Approval
Discussion Agenda:
7. #17-95A Rafferty's PUD - Final
S. 933-95 Recommendation to City Council Regarding Amendments to
the Land Development Guidance System and Section 29-526
of the City Code
9. #2-95A Recommendation to City Council Regarding the North College
Rezonings (Continued)
Member Strom pulled Items 2 and 3 from the Consent Agenda for discussion.