HomeMy WebLinkAboutHEARTHFIRE PUD, 2ND FILING - FINAL - 31-95E - CORRESPONDENCE - CITIZEN COMMUNICATION (5)within the Urban Growth Area, we are aware that consideration has been given to removing our area
from the UGA. Apparently, much of the area would require a pump station to be served by public
sewer, relegating most residences here to the use of septic systems; and therefore excluding the area
from inclusion into the Fort Collins City limits. The result being that the character of our area will
likely remain semi -rural with "horse property" as the most common real estate use, and a total
number of approximately 30+ residences. Obviously, there would be little benefit toanyone to
"connect" a City subdivision of 200+ residences to this semi -rural area. The Hearthfire residents
would gain little, and our neighborhood would suffer significant losses. In effect, the City would be
sanctioning the use of our neighborhood roads for "cut through" traffic.
it would seem that the best alternative for the Hearthfire PUD would be to route the majority of
vehicle traffic onto roads such as Douglas Road, State HWY 1, and CoRd11, which can be
improved to handle the expected traffic volume. In fact, this is presently the case. However, if the
Hearthfire street connection to CoRd 13, proposed by the City, is made, major re -design of the
existing roads would be needed to obtain a safe road capable of handling the proposed traffic
volume. We would like to stress that although the City has repeatedly proposed paving of our
neighborhood roads, we do not feel that this would be a solution. Instead, we believe that this would
only make these roads even more dangerous than they are now. If the City insists that this
connection must be made (for whatever reason) we would expect that it must be accompanied by
major re -design of these roads. A responsibility that the City must assume, not the County.
Years ago, the traffic issue was perhaps one of the most significant issues which galvanized this
neighborhood; and resulted in a great deal of time and effort on the part of a number of residents to
educate ourselves and become more involved in a variety of City and County issues. This
involvement has grown and we are fully committed to continuing our participation in both City and
County affairs. We hope that you would give serious consideration to our concerns, and
demonstrate that City Plan can be flexible and truly acknowledge the special character of our
County subdivision as a part of the larger community.
For your information, we have enclosed some copies of past letters from Larimer County,
expressing concerns about increased traffic generated by City subdivisions on County roads. In
addition, a quick survey of our neighborhood revealed that every resident contacted opposed the
proposed Hearthfire PUD street connection to CoRd13. Please feel free to contact us if you have
questions or comments.
Sincerely,
Kathleen Kilkel
920 Inverness Rd
Ft. Collins, CO 80524
493-7958
Margaret Phillips
805 E. Ridgecrest Rd
Ft. Collins, CO 80524
224-4722
The NorthEast Neighborhood Coalition (NENC)
932 Inverness Rd
Ft. Collins, CO 80524
224-9418
RECEIVED
TO: Gary Diede, Director of Transportation Operations JUL 2 7 2000
Transportation Services, City of Fort Collins CURRENT PLANNING
FROM: The NorthEast Neighborhood Coalition (NENC)
SUBJECT: Hearthfire PUD street Connection to County Road 13
DATE: May 16, 2000
Some years ago, we approached the City of Fort Collins with concerns regarding the Hearthfire
PUD, a City subdivision surrounded by County residences of 2 to 20 acres. The original project
design was for the main Hearthfire entrance to be located at the corner of CoRd13 and Inverness.
This created great concern in our neighborhood, as "cut through" traffic on CoRd13, Inverness,
Abbotsford, Richards Lake and Gregory Road was already a problem. These roads are mainly
small, gravel County roads which were never designed to carry large traffic volumes. There are
dangerous, sharp curves, restricted line -of -sights, areas with poor drainage, and two bridges over
irrigation drainages/canals. These roads have been the frequent scene of numerous accidents.
After prolonged negotiations with the Hearthfire developer and the City we reached agreement on
our request to relocate the main Hearthfire entrance to Douglas Road, and the subdivision was
approved. In addition, the developer agreed to certain improvements to Douglas Road and the
intersection of Douglas Rd and Colo State HWY 1. An emergency access was created at the
intersection of CoRd13 and Inverness to satisfy the City requirement of two access points for the
development. In addition, another Hearthfire access through the proposed Richards Lake PUD to
the east served to satisfy this City requirement. Since then, we have felt that this particular traffic
problem was satisfactorily resolved.
Unfortunately, a week ago we learned that the City of Fort Collins has requested the Hearthfire
developer to make a street connection to CoRd13. Once more, we are faced with the prospect of an
estimated 2376 vehicle trips/day using our neighborhood roads as a "cut through". Our
understanding is that the City feels this street connection is necessary to provide "connectivity". A
number of our members were regular participants at virtually every opportunity for public input
during the formation of City Plan. We feel that we are knowledgeable concerning this concept of
"connectivity", and believe it to be valid in an urban setting. However, we feel that the attempt to
methodically apply this concept to every subdivision indicates a lack of concem/knowledge about
the particular, unique characteristics of our neighborhood and a disregard for flexibility. This
attitude may be further complicated by the unfamiliarity of the present City staff with the significant
events which occurred during the approval process of the Hearthfire PUD. Our neighborhood has
no employment, shopping, recreation or public services with which Hearthfire residents might
"connect". We welcome and are happy to have the present trail access from Hearthfire to"connect"
bikes, pedestrians and equestrians to our neighborhood. But, no neighborhood needs more motorists
passing through it.
Another consideration concerning the perceived need for "connectivity" is that it is very doubtful
that our area (the Highland Place Subdivision) will ever become "urbanized". Despite our location
Another consideration concerning the perceived need for "connectivity" is that it is very doubtful
that our area (the Highland Place Subdivision) will ever become "urbanized". Despite our location
within the Urban Growth Area, we are aware that consideration has been given to removing our area
from the UGA. Apparently, much of the area would require a pump station to be served by public
sewer, relegating most residences here to the use of septic systems; and therefore excluding the area
from inclusion into the Fort Collins City limits. The result being that the character of our area will
likely remain semi -rural with "horse property" as the most common real estate use, and a total
number of approximately 30+ residences. Obviously, there would be little benefit to "connect" a
City subdivision of 200+ residences to this semi -rural area. The Hearthfire residents would gain
little, and our neighborhood would suffer significant losses.
From the Larimer County point of view, we would expect you to be particularly concerned about the
impact of City subdivisions using County roads. We are well aware of the extraordinary challenges
currently facing Larimer County in the maintenance and improvement of the existing County road
system. It would seem that the best alternative for the Hearthfire PUD would be to route the
majority of vehicle traffic onto roads such as Douglas Road, which can be improved to handle the
expected traffic volume. In fact, this is presently the case. However, if the Hearthfire connection to
CoRd 13, proposed by the City, is made, major re -design of the existing roads would be needed to
obtain a safe road capable of handling the proposed traffic volume. We would like to stress that
although the City has repeatedly proposed paving of our neighborhood roads, we do not feel that
this would be a solution. Instead, we believe that this would only make these roads even more
dangerous than they are now. If the City insists that this connection must be made (for whatever
reason) we would expect that it must be accompanied by major re -design of these roads.
Years ago, the traffic issue was perhaps one of the most significant issues which galvanized this
neighborhood; and resulted in a great deal of time and effort on the part of a number of residents to
educate ourselves and become more involved in a variety of issues of both the City and the County.
This involvement has grown and we are fully committed to continuing our participation in both City
and County affairs. Again, we would like to thank you for the opportunity to express our concerns.
As Larimer County residents, we have felt that the Commissioner's door has always been open for
us, and we appreciate that. Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions or comments.
Sincerely,
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Kathleen Kilkelly
920 Inverness Rd
Ft. Collins, CO 80524
493-7958
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Margaret Phillips
805 E. Ridgecrest Rd
Ft. Collins, CO 80524
224-4722
The NorthEast Neighborhood Coalition (NENC)
Ft. Collins, CO 80524
224-9418
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RECEIVED
TO: Larimer County Commissioners: JUL 2 7 2000
Jim Disney; Cheryl Olson, and Kathay C. Rennels
CURRENT PLANNING
FROM: The NorthEast Neighborhood Coalition (NENC)
SUBJECT: Hearthfire PUD street connection to County Road 13
DATE: May 16, 2000
We appreciated the opportunity to express our concerns at your Public Comment of May 16, 2000
and would like to follow-up on that discussion with this letter.
Some years ago, 1995-96, we approached Larimer County with concerns regarding the Hearthfire
PUD, a City subdivision surrounded by County residences of 2 to 20 acres. The original project
design was for the main Hearthfire entrance to be located at the corner of CoRd13 and Inverness.
This created great concern in our neighborhood, as "cut through" traffic on CoRd13, Inverness,
Abbotsford, Richards Lake and Gregory Road was already a problem. These roads are mainly
small, gravel County roads which were never designed to carry large traffic volumes. There are
dangerous, sharp curves, restricted line -of -sights, areas with poor drainage, and two bridges over
irrigation drainages/canals. These roads have been the scene of numerous accidents.
At that time, our request to the Commissioners was honored by several letters from the County to
the City expressing concern about the impact of residents from a City subdivision on County roads.
After prolonged negotiations with the Hearthfire developer and the City we reached agreement on
our request to relocate the main Hearthfire entrance to Douglas Road, and the subdivision was
approved. In addition, the developer agreed to certain improvements to Douglas Road and the
intersection of Douglas Rd and Colo State HWY 1. An emergency access was created at the
intersection of CoRd13 and Inverness to satisfy the City requirement of two access points for the
development. In addition, another Hearthfire access through the proposed Richards Lake PUD to
the east served to satisfy this City requirement. Since then, we have felt that this particular traffic
problem was satisfactorily resolved.
Unfortunately, a week ago we learned that the City of Fort Collins has requested the Hearthfire
developer to make a street connection to CoRd13. Once more, we are faced with the prospect of an
estimated 2376 vehicle trips/day using our neighborhood roads as a "cut through". Our
understanding is that the City feels this street connection is necessary to provide "connectivity". A
number of our members were regular participants at virtually every opportunity for public input
during the formation of City Plan. We feel that we are knowledgeable concerning this concept, and
believe it to be a valid concept in an urban setting. However, we feel that the attempt to
methodically apply this concept to every subdivision indicates a lack of concern/knowledge about
the particular, unique characteristics of our neighborhood and a disregard for flexibility. This
attitude may be further complicated by the unfamiliarity of the present City staff with the significant
events which occurred during the approval process of the Hearthfire PUD. Our neighborhood has
no employment, shopping, recreational, or public services with which Hearthfire residents might
"connect". We welcome and are happy to have the present trail access from Hearthfire to"connect"
bikes, pedestrians and equestrians to our neighborhood. But, no neighborhood needs more motorists
passing through it.