HomeMy WebLinkAboutROBERTO'S BURRITOS EXPANSION PUD - PRELIMINARY & FINAL ..... FOURTH P & Z BOARD HEARING (CONTINUED FROM 1/22/96) - 35-95 - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESPlanning and Zoning Board Hearing
February 12, 1996
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Mr. Olt stated there are no other code requirements. The only requirement that the
applicant needs to meet is the parking requirement for employees, 2 spaces for every
three employees.
Member Davidson asked what happens if this business moves and another one comes
in that is very auto -related.
Deputy City Attorney Eckman replied that the city would not have much control over this
unless the business that moves in is also a restaurant. That is what this PUD is
approved for.
Member Walker commented that this property is in a highly dense area as far as activity
and they want to expand. The result of the expansion will involve more traffic of various
types. It appeared to him that they are externalizing their parking issues off the
property. He believes the result could be more congestion, more signs and believed
that they are pushing too much into an area.
Vic Watterson stated that if he were in the position of the business owners who are
objecting to this, he would be hesitant to sign any agreement or to agree on any type of
formal meeting that would provide his endorsement. He did not believe that it was fair
to ask of them. He perceives no additional parking requirements for the expansion.
Chairperson Carnes asked where the customers would park at any given time.
Vic Watterson replied they would park where they currently park.
Member Mickelson commented that it is significant to recognize that 20 out of 26 of the
businesses in that area do support the expansion.
The motion passed 5-2 with Members Walker and Bell in the negative.
RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE
COMMUNITY VISIONS AND GOALS 2015
Joe Frank, Advance Planning Director, gave the presentation stating this is part of the
City Plan. This document is picture of the community that will be true over time if
successful. Second, this document was adopted from a synthesis of many adopted
plans and policies documents including the 1977 Goals and Objectives, Air Quality
Policy Plan, Historic Resources Preservation Program Plan, the Land Use Policies
Plan, the 1995 Congestion Management Plan and the Natural Areas Policies Plan as
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Chairperson Carnes figured that the part in the building totals 3,034 square feet. After
the expansion, 757 square feet would be devoted to salsa production which makes
25% of the square footage that would be devoted to salsa production.
Member Colton asked if the other restaurants had to show parking requirements say, if
they were another use and then converted to a restaurant.
Mr. Olt replied that basically they would be a change in use unless there was a different
type of use when they came in. If one restaurant had changed over to another, the only
parking requirements that would be required would be the city code requirement, which
is the 2 parking spaces for every 3 employees.
Deputy City Attorney Eckman stated that if the Board should decide that the applicant
has complied with All Development Criteria A 2.4, he didn't believe that they would
need to vary the LDGS. If however, the Board believes the evidence does not
persuade them and that Criteria A 2.4 has been complied with, then the Board would
need to grant the variance. He recommended that in order to avoid varying the code,
the Board consider amending the motion to require the applicant to add that additional
parking space that they indicated they could.
Member Mickelson amended the motion to move to approve Roberto's Burritos
Preliminary and Final with the addition of one parking space to make it a total of
four.
Member Strom concurred with the amendment.
CITIZEN INPUT
Kelly Ohlson, Fort Collins resident, stated that he applauded Staff for finally
recommending denial against a project however this is the wrong project to do it. He
has seen them recommend approval for filling in wetlands, destroying the foothills and
natural areas. Now there is a family owned business that is trying to expand and Staff
seems to have every road block and they get tough and dig in their heels. He found
this a circus of absurdity and encouraged the Board to recommend this project.
CITIZEN INPUT CLOSED
Chairperson Carnes asked what other portions of the code might be relevant in terms of
provision of parking for the people who would use the restaurant.
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Member Strom asked how the difference between the downtown area and this area
would be characterized. Is there a rationale for the zoning that is currently there that
makes sense in terms of day to day operations. Is there is a difference in terms of the
amount of parking that is provided by the city as opposed to the amount that is provided
downtown.
Director Blanchard replied that the BL zone refers to being appropriate for designation
for areas for neighborhood convenience centers. This definition is not necessarily in
sync with the definition in the LDGS but the majority of types of uses relate to the
neighborhood and the college population. The BG zone is the designation for the
downtown business district. They were making that distinction in the rezoning in 1991
based on the existing code definitions.
Member Strom stated that one thing in Mr. Watterson's favor is the fact that the
neighborhood they are serving includes the university which includes a large amount of
pedestrians. He asked how much square footage is currently devoted to restaurant use
and how much of the expansion will be devoted to restaurant versus salsa production.
Vic Watterson stated that currently the salsa production is being conducted in the
kitchen area. Of the total square footage, 757 square feet would be devoted to salsa
production and storage or 20% to the salsa production and 20% to storage. The
remaining 1135 square feet would be utilized to the addition of 8 tables and 16 chairs
upstairs.
Member Davidson stated that the total of the building with the expansion would be
about 3600 square feet. The salsa production would be 20% of the building with the
remaining 80% as restaurant, bathrooms and kitchen.
Vic Watterson stated that upstairs would have pool tables and a big screen TV. A
maximum of 8 tables would be added.
Chairperson Carnes stated that there would 1182 square feet on the main floor then
with a cantilever over the main for a total of 3074 square feet. He asked how many
square feet are on the main floor and how would be added onto the second floor.
Jim Watterson replied that the square footage is noted on the drawings. The back area
on the top of the second floor is a total of 483, the large area over the existing building
is 721, the storage area excluding the stairwell is 480 and the existing patio is 483. All
of these are on the second floor. The main floor area is 900 and the back is 450.
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majority response of favorability. After that the property owners who control the amount
of parking spaces indicated they have concerns with the parking issue.
Chairperson Carnes asked if all the parties of interest come together to explore an
agreement.
Mr. Olt replied that on one occasion, the Wattersons, Mr. Stevens, Mr. Stevens' store
manager, Frank Bruno and myself met.
Member Bell asked if this meeting was the one that the Board suggested the last time
this project was before the Board.
Mr. Olt replied that this was correct. There was no agreement made because the other
parties had concerns about the inability for Roberto's to provide their own parking,
dependent upon someone else, and how it could, to a degree, affect their ability to
redevelopment their property.
Member Mickelsen commented that it is important to recognize the utilization of the
intended expansion and how it would affect the building and the parking. With an
expansion, the salsa manufacturing could also increase.
Member Mickelsen moved to approve Roberto's Burritos Preliminary and Final as
well as the variance request.
Member Strom seconded.
Member Strom asked if this is a significant restaurant expansion or a work room.
Mr. Olt replied that the plan shows an additional 12 tables with 48 seats as well as the
downstairs seating of 40 chairs. It wasn't until a letter received January 31 that the
actual breakdown of the use had changed. He deferred to the applicant for the intent.
Member Strom asked about the history of the zoning change.
Director Blanchard stated that the Eastside Neighborhood Plan was adopted in 1986
and the westside plan in the late 80's. Based on those recommendations, in 1991,
there was an area wide rezoning when the NCM, NCB and NCL zoning districts were
formed and when some of the business zoning was changed from BG to BL. There
was a significant mail out on two different occasions in conjunction with that area wide
rezoning.
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parking and traffic conditions. There is currently underway an extensive study being
conducted by the City Transportation Services team to address and provide resolutions
to the area parking and traffic conditions. He referenced document F. They will show
in the current PUD submission that Roberto's does meet and complies with parking
requirements. He showed that in document G, H and I that they have meet all
requirements. He stated that there were inconsistencies of the Staff Reports dated
December 23 with recommendation of denial and November 20 with recommendation
of approval, and January 22 with recommendation of denial. He believed that these
changes were decided upon as a result of opinionated perceptions or concerns by a
small number of local business owners thereby serving to circumvent the responsibility
for decision making from the Board who are capable and duly informed to make that
decision.
CITIZEN INPUT
Matt Evans, co-owner of the Mountain Shop and President of Midtown Village group,
stated that he supported this requested expansion. An important fact is the City of Fort
Collins Master Plan and Visual Preference Survey. This area is the style and choice of
the community. Not allowing Roberto's to expand would not only beautify the area but
would go against the community's desires. Another point is that all parking areas in
midtown have maximum times of use. If they aren't used to the maximum, they weren't
built correctly. He stated that he can walk to the back of his area and the parking is
really open. He did not believe that parking was a concern. The third point he wanted
to make is that there are vacancies in this area and they would not like to see another
business leave. Without the expansion, Roberto's may be forced to leave. Fourth point
is basically to ask what midtown needs at this point. Generally, it would be evening and
weekend traffic. He encouraged the Board to approve this request.
CITIZEN INPUT CLOSED
Mr. Olt stated that initially this proposal was evaluated and prior to the November 20
Staff Report, the recommendation was for denial based on that the project did not meet
the city code standards for parking as well as All Development Criteria A 2.4 of the
LDGS dealing with vehicular circulation and parking. That recommendation did not go
to a Board hearing. Instead, they worked with the Wattersons to attempt to bring
together the owners and the various property owners to discuss what kind of agreement
could be made prior to bringing the request before the Board. Prior to the November 20
hearing, Mr. Watterson worked with Frank Bruno in the City Manager's Office who
prepared the document the Board has in their Staff Report dealing with a survey of the
neighborhood. This document was then circulated to the area business owners with a
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Jim Watterson, applicant and owner, stated they are spending too much time and effort
trying to convince the Planning Department to let this expansion proceed. If this
expansion were approved, they could provide some manufacturing wage type jobs.
Sixty six percent of their product is shipped outside of the county. This brings money
back into Fort Collins. It was suggested that they move however, they own the building.
Some of the upstairs area could be used for dinner traffic. When they bought the
building in 1988, it was zoned Business General. The zoning was then changed to
Business Restricted without notifying many of the property owners in the area including
his business. He did receive a letter stating that the business owners in this area would
be responsible for a new storm sewer system for the old town area. They do not share
any of the amenities such as street lighting, business time parking furnished by the city
and policemen that cover the area. This area is a "free enterprise" area. He
encouraged the Board to approve this project.
Vic Watterson, applicant's son, stated at the November 20, 1995 Board meeting, this
request was neither granted nor denied. The primary concern at that meeting focused
around the issue of parking. There appears to be an impasse on the solution of the
parking situation in the fact that there was not a unanimous endorsement by lot and
business owners. Today, there is an overwhelming majority support and acceptance by
area business owners for this expansion. He cited the letter that was distributed to the
area business owners regarding the expansion and potential parking increases. 77%
supported this request. An average of 45% is either pedestrian or bike traffic to their
business. He ran a video of the area during the lunch hour on a Friday, their busiest
day, showing available parking spaces. The video also showed the crowded conditions
of the inside of Roberto's Burritos. He broke down the intended utilization of the
requested expansion.
Member Walker asked how the applicant would respond since there is no parking
agreement with the other businesses.
Vic Watterson replied that the Board's job is to make decisions based on the
information they receive as to whether or not the concerned businesses of the area
should decide the fate of this request.
Jim Watterson stated that what Mr. Stevens' and himself did not realize that there were
other restaurants opened around the corner that all use Mr. Stevens' lot. He offered to
Mr. Stevens to sign the area.
Vic Watterson continued that there were concerns voiced with any existing or future
investigations and resulting remedies being conducted by the city regarding area
The meeting was called to order at 6:35 p.m.
Roll Call: Colton, Davidson, Strom, Mickelson, walker, Bell, Carnes.
Staff Present: Blanchard, Olt, Shepard, Eckman, Waido, Frank, Wamhoff, Byrne,
Stanford, Deines.
Agenda Review: Director Blanchard reviewed the continued Discussion Agenda which
consisted of the following:
17. #35-95 Expansion of Roberto's Burritos, Preliminary and Final PUD
19. Recommendation to City Council for the Adoption of the
Community Visions and Goals 2015
21. #90-85N The Preston Center at Wildwood, Preliminary PUD
22. #47-95 An Amendment to the Ridgewood Hills Overall Development
Plan
23. #47-95 Shenandoah PUD, Preliminary
Director Blanchard stated that the Harmony Ridge Overall Development Plan and the
Harmony Ridge Phase I Preliminary have both been continued.
ROBERTO'S BURRITOS EXPANSION - PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PUD - #35-95
Steve Olt, Project Planner, gave the Staff Report recommending denial of the
preliminary and final and of a requested variance to the parking requirements. He
stated a revised letter from Mr. Stevens, owner of the Garment District, reiterating his
concerns for the position of the concerns of this expansion and the impacts on his
property. Staff has concerns about the inability for this expansion to provide sufficient
parking on site. A reasonable parking agreement has not been resolved between the
applicants and the adjacent property owners.