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HomeMy WebLinkAboutOVERLAND RIDGE (SIENA) PUD - PRELIMINARY ..... SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING - 39-95 - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING1'IiVJL l l: IteIDUe- TYPE 01: MEETING: /UE/GIt :Cd r-ylcr7i7 iivnl DATE: olo You "cflvi WItITTEN NOTIFICATION o� NAME RAC YOU A. rao nuUltEss YESiNU ? OWNER It En � l Iti a T h% cS C,y 10 / '« J� � � ✓hI�G� a a3 7 Le�c�„-�G✓�- ___rJoC Leo 9�2 7-/kfi3�2 Lc. CLAtLK XlnICrTW 44. It will become a "T" intersection? A. Yes it will. 45. Do they have anything planned with transfort adding busses? A. The city is trying to rearrange bus routes to best fit the peoples needs. It is unlikely, due to federal cutbacks, that additional buses will be added. 46. I live in a single family home and I take the bus. It's a little crowded. A. That's great news. It means transit is being used. 47. I've had my bus diverted to pick up other routes. 48. Will there be a plan made for more people riding Transfort? A. Transfort is constantly monitoring the ridership patterns. Keep in mind that each bus costs about $80,000 so probably no new buses for awhile.. They would like to expand, but it's very expensive. 49. What priority is a right turn lane for eastbound Elizabeth to southbound Taft? A. This turn lane is not part of the current round of capital improvement projects. (Choices `95). Therefore, its hard to predict when it will be built. Such a project would have to be included in the next round of capital projects. 50. What about the Elizabeth/Taft Hill intersection? Any improvements there? A. Yes, the City plans on upgrading the signal to include a separate left turn phase for eastbound Elizabeth to northbound Taft in the next several months. 51. We can count on how many homes not having detached garages? A.. They will all be attached, but some will be in the back of the house served by an alley instead of the front. The split is about 1/2 and 1/2. 52. When will the project begin and end? A. (Minatta) We estimate early summer to begin site work. The plan is to build in three phases depending on market absorption. 8 A. Keep in mind that all developers must construct the necessary improvements to meet the Stormwater Utility's criteria for new development. Money collected must stay within the specific basin. This money cannot be spent on improvements that are normally required of a particular development. Rather, the money can be spent on areas within the basin where there is no developer to pay for the improvement or where there is clearly a public need versus a developer's obligation. Most basins have a master plan that identifies areas of improvement. KERRIE ASHBECK, SHERRY WAMHOFF, and ERIC BRACKE/ ENGINEERING AND TRANSPORTATION These staff members explained the methodology for traffic impact studies and the level of service (measurement of delay) required at intersections. Elizabeth street improvements will be on the south side of the street only. A street oversizing fee of $584 per dwelling unit is charged at the time of building permit. There are no long term capital projects scheduled or budgeted at this time to improve Elizabeth Street from west of K.F.C. to Overland Trail. 38. If the traffic count on Elizabeth is 4000 cars a day, then at least 2000 are going by just when I'm trying to back out of my driveway! A. It is difficult to back out onto busy streets. Have you considered a circular drive? 39. 5 Saturdays out of the year we have the CSU game traffic. Getting 35,000 cars in and out within a 2 hour period each way is hard on existing residents. A. We agree. There's no way around it. It's a tough situation that simply overloads the system. 40. What is the plan for Rocky Road and Elizabeth? A. There will eventually be a left turn lane, but that could take years. 41. It's not safe now to turn from Rocky Road to Elizabeth. You have to go past the stop sign to see. A. Part of the problem is that Elizabeth is widened to the east but not to the west so the Rocky Road intersection is where the street jogs. 42. Is the main problem the big willow tree? A. The northwest corner has a big branch in the way. 43. What about the Clearview intersection? Will there be a stop sign or a stop light? A. There will be a stop sign for Deerfield. Clearview will have the right-of-way. 7 J A. . There will be no increase in runoff due to stormflows being captured by the stormwater detention pond. Releases from this pond, however, will flow down the Clearview channel over a longer period of time. 30. Are you not planning to increase the size or improve the outlet channel? A. No, it will be kept the same for now. There will be more sustained flows after rainfall which causes more stress of the system over time due to the increased duration of releases out of the Clearview Pond. 31. What will the City do to improve the channel? A. Over time, as fees are collected in the Basin, the channel will be improved to the practical extent possible. These improvements are based on the Basin's master plan. The master plan assumes fully developed conditions throughout the basin. 32. What are the cost estimates of improving the channel? A. There are no cost estimates at this time. 33. If you increase detention will we lose the trail? A. No. Stormwater will work with Parks and Recreation and not allow detention to effect the trail system. 34. When will you do this? A. When we get the final plans. We won't allow Planning and Zoning to approve it if there is a negative impact on the existing trail. 35, What will the fees be? A. $6181.00 per acre X the coefficient of runoff (about .5). So about $90,000 to $100,000. 36. Will the $90,000 will be used to improve the channel? A. Not necessarily. The money goes into a fund for the Canal Importation Basin that is administered by Stormwater Utility for master plan improvements. Improvements are done on a priority basis within the basin. 37. Could the money go to another development down the road to improve other development's requests? N sports and activities are spilling over to neighborhood parks that ideally should be located in community parks like City Park or Roland Moore. We hope that improvements at Lincoln Junior High and the old Fort Collins High School will help with this overload. 25. Is there any data that supports providing additional park space as newer homes are planned so the parks grow at the same time? A. Our park planning is based on population projections on a square mile basis. Some of the data we have is based on the school -age population. For example, we know about '/z of the kids play organized sports. At this time, your square mile section is adequately served by park land. The problem of over -programing is a city-wide issue. 26. Is the trend due to the aging population? A. Yes, the age of the general population is growing older. Right now, youth sports are serving the "echo of the baby boom". These kids are growing older and will soon drop out of organized sports. Youth baseball, however, is really up due to the popularity of the Rockies. The problem is that it is more expensive to install, operate and maintain a baseball diamond than a soccer field. It costs about $60,000 to $80,000 to build and illuminate a baseball diamond. 27. Do you plan to update Rogers Park with baseball fields? A. No, we don't have room in that park for ball diamonds. 28. I coach baseball for the city. There's a big conflict with the soccer games at the same time as youth baseball. We can't practice 6 days out of the week because of soccer. Neighborhood parks lack ball diamonds. The conflict is really bad and puts baseball at a disadvantage. A. We recognize this conflict. Keep in mind that this conflict is only two weeks out of the year. It may be possible to build additional baseball fields and only have soccer at Rogers Park. Keep in mind that the season for organized youth sports is only 6 months out of the year so the City has to budget its resources accordingly. STORM WATER/ BASIL HAMDEN Mr. Hamden explained that site is located in the Canal Importation Basin. Storm flows will be routed into the Clearview Pond where they will be detained and released at a controlled rate into the Clearview Channel. The developer will pay $6,181 per acre, subject to the amount of impervious surface (about 50%) in storm drainage fees. The developer will have to verify the capacity of the Clearview Pond and expand it if necessary. 29. What is the percentage increase in stormwater runoff expected from this project? 5 A. Yes, all new homes are required to have water meters. PARKS AND REC/ JANET MEISEL Ms. Meisel began by explaining that there are 2 parks within a mile of the Overland Ridge P.U.D.- Overland Park(15 acres) south of West Elizabeth and Rogers Park(8.65 acres) north of Elizabeth. According to the policies and standards adopted by City Council, Overland Ridge P.U.D. will not trigger the need to provide more park space in the square mile section bounded by Taft Hill, Prospect, Overland Trail, and Mulberry. Further, population projections for this square mile indicate that existing park space will be sufficient for the long term. Each new home must pay $813 into the Parkland Development Fund at the time of building permit. 19. You mentioned Elizabeth being a boundary, what are the chances of people from Overland Ridge crossing Elizabeth and going to Rogers Park? A. I would say good. People with kids and kids involved in sports will go where the organized games are and Rogers Park has organized soccer games. 21. Is it fair to include Rogers Park or does Overland Trail Park serve these new folks? A. The park land is split. These people will use Overland Park. But if games are scheduled in Rogers Park, people in Overland Ridge will travel to Rogers Park. 22. There are also people coming to Overland Trail Park from other developments, do you figure those people -in when you do the study? A. You are referring to The Ponds located on the west side of Overland Trail. We would like to provide a playground within The Ponds for small children but we expect most people will go to Overland Park. 23. If people from both Overland Ridge and The Ponds go to Overland Trail Park, then what impact does that have on the park? A. Park usage will increase. At 15 acres, however, this one of our larger neighborhood parks and it should be able to handle the increase in use. 24. Is there any data to demonstrate and show how to measure the parks use? A. Aside from monitoring recreation programs, there is no data on casual or passive park use. All parks are over -scheduled, we know. If we had another park like Roland Moore, we would be able to handle all programs without impacting neighborhood parks. For now programs are put into the available neighborhood parks. Right now, we have a problem with park programming for organized 4 There are no problems with sanitary sewer service. Most older homes in the area are served by the Fort Collins/Loveland water district since the homes were built in the County and then annexed into the City. The area is now in the City of Fort Collins service area but district pipes will not be removed. The City's goal is to try to maintain a minimum of 40 p.s.i. during the summer watering season in the city-wide zone. The pressure in the Foothills Pressure Zone is about 80 p.s.i. 11. Any chance of ever getting more than 40 p.s.i. outside the Foothills Pressure Zone? A. No, not unless the boundaries change. 12. During the summer, I get about 25 p.s.i. Only in the winter do I get 40 p.s.i. When can we get the boundaries changed so we can be in the Foothills Pressure Zone? A. I can't give a definite answer. There are no plans now. Water users cause the pressure to drop. It is possible to shift the boundary in the future. It can vary from the west to the east, depending on the elevation of the water storage tanks. At some point, the further you go to the east, you have to draw the line between the two zones. 13. Does changing the boundary involve any above ground tanks? A. No. 14. What would it take to change boundaries? A. It would take a study along the present zone line from one end to the other. Depending on the outcome, it could involve construction of a new water main in the area. 15. So, we have to live with 40 p.s.i. on the east side of the zone line? A. Yes, and 80 p.s.i. on West Elizabeth and west of the line. 16. Why is the pressure lower in one side and higher on the other? A. Because the two zones are not connected. 17. Will the water line come off of Rocky Road? A. It will come off of Elizabeth. Fort Collins/Loveland water is not part of our system and their mains will not serve this site. 18. Would you have a water meter on each lot? 3 Also all the new kids from Overland Ridge won't be in the same grade. 4. What will it cost to hire 2 more teachers? A. About $40,000 for 2 teachers.($20,000/teacher). 5. Would the children be bussed? A. No, they would walk. 6. They would walk across Prospect? A. Yes, we have a crossing guard at the stop light. 7. Will the boundaries for Bauder change as a result of this project? A. We do not anticipate any boundary changes due to this project. 8. Are there any trends in the older neighborhoods where elementary enrollment is on the decline? A. Yes, we see enrollment patterns shifting more to the south over the long term. 9. Does Irish have problems with declining enrollment? A. Irish wanted to reduce the school size so Bauder, being a four track school, took part of the Irish boundary area. Bauder is actually closer to Overland Ridge than Irish. 10. Are you concerned about reducing staff? A. No. We went over our projection for 1995. We have 20 kids over what we projected in May. Most of these students are at the kindergarten level. We are not anticipating reducing staff. WATER AND WASTEWATER/ ROGER BUFFINGTON Mr. Buffington began with a description of the Foothills Pressure Zone, which will serve Overland Ridge. This is a separate system which is fed by a water tank up in the foothills. The boundary of the Foothills Pressure Zone is the easterly property line of Overland Ridge. Therefore, residents living on Timber Lane are in the city-wide system and have lower water pressures. There will be three water connections to feed Overland Ridge. A connection will be made between the two zones for operational purposes in case there is an emergency but this will be a valve that will normally be closed. Also, in case the boundaries of the zones change, there will be system in place. 2 NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING MINUTES PROJECT: Minatta Project- Overland Ridge P.U.D. DATE: October 10, 1995 APPLICANT: John Minatta c/o B.H.A. Design CONSULTANT: Bruce Hendee, B.H.A. Design STAFF: Ted Shepard, Senior Planner This meeting was the second in the planning process held to address the concerns raised at the first meeting. The first one was held on August 24, 1995. Unlike the first meeting, the second meeting featured representatives from Poudre R-1, Water and Wastewater, Parks and Recreation, Stormwater, Engineering, and Transportation. These representatives provided a perspective of how the P.U.D. is evaluated and reviewed. Instead of an open, free -form discussion, the format was focused on each representative and the issues related to their specific area. The minutes reflect this format. POUDRE R-1/ JERRY MICHAELS, Principal, Bauder Elementary School Mr. Michaels began with brief presentation indicating that Overland Ridge P.U.D. is expected to generate approximately 30 to 46 new students at the elementary level. Bauder is a four -track school and can handle these new students. 1. Before the first neighborhood meeting, I called Bauder to see if they were accepting additional kids and they(Bauder) said that they were full. How can they take these kids? A. We do our student population and faculty staffing projections every May to see how many kids will attend. This includes students transferring in from the School of Choice program. We hire staff based upon those numbers. Once the staff is "frozen" we can't accept any more kids. 2. Do you have empty classrooms? What will you do with 100 more kids? A. We have 2 empty classrooms. The staff level is based on the Bauder population projection made in May. If we know ahead of time what the student population will be, we can physically accommodate the students in the building and provide the appropriate staff level. 3. But what about 30 to 46 kids, will they fit in 2 classes? A. That's hard to say. The maximum capacity at Bauder is 728, right now we have about 653.