HomeMy WebLinkAboutJEFFERSON COMMONS PUD - PRELIMINARY ..... SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING - 50-95 - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGconnections from Taft Hill except for Mulberry and Elizabeth. The idea is to disburse traffic
rather than concentrate it. The volumes will not be excessive.
16. You're turning a 3 way intersection into a 4 way death trap.
A. (Eric Bracke) We have that issue (connections and 4-way intersections - not death traps) all
over town. This will help relieve traffic at all points.
17. Elizabeth files into one lane.
18. Is Orchard a done deal?
A (Eric Bracke) Nothing is a done deal. Staff recommends that Orchard Place be connected.
This will be discussed at the Planning and Zoning Board hearing.
19. I saw a map in the paper on how crime has increased. In Rams Village, crime has increased
in the area since it was built. Why isn't the city doing anything about it?
A (Applicant) Our own management will have their own security. Students are concerned
about crime just as much as the neighbors.
20. What are the gated entries?
A (Applicant) We are proposing controlled access to our property. The city doesn't want it.
We do.
(Mike Ludwig) This same type of development (gated entry, student housing) was proposed
a couple of years ago and was denied by the City Council on appeal. There is not a single
development with gated access in this community. It does not promote porosity
(neighborhood connections). Staff does not feel that the applicant will have problems with
cut through traffic as it is too inconvenient. This will also be up for discussion at the Planning
and Zoning Board hearing.
21. How can someone get in if they're a visitor?
A (Applicant) The visitor would dial up— press * on phone-- gate open - then would be able to
come in.
22. Part of a security system is speed bumps. Will you have those?
A. (Applicant) They're not currently shown on our plan but we will pick strategic points for stop
signs. We will deal with on -site traffic.
23. I m confused. There is a gate there and not on the other side (Orchard Place)? Banks have
traffic arms and they are always torn down immediately. If the students do that, will you
replace them?
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40. Is it possible to build single family homes here?
A There are 3 property owners here. They have a contract with us. They still own the land.
They'll sell ifthe development is approved. Multi -family housing pays commercial prices for
land to build on. Therefore, a landowner would be able to sell their land for more to a multi-
family developer than they could to a single-family residential developer.
41. Lots of owners lease along Ponderosa.
42. I'm hearing a lot of traffic concerns. I know that Ramblewood Apartments have a shuttle
service to CSU for its residents. The majority of the residents use it. Would you also
consider a similar service?
A. (Applicant) Transfort would have a stop at the entrance from Elizabeth Street.
43. The bus now picks up on Elizabeth in 30 minute intervals.
44. What is the time factor on the construction being complete?
A. (Applicant) We would have a 12 month construction schedule-- from August to August.
45. Is our privacy protected or compensated for?
A. (Applicant) We are required to mitigate our impacts. However there is no monetary
compensation to the neighbors.
46. With Transfort, the students get a free ride and the taxpayers pay for it.
A. (Applicant) It's included in the student fee to CSU.
(Mike Ludwig) The owner of the property pays taxes also and figures into the rent structure.
So, students are paying taxes also.
47. This is a private development. What is CSU doing to address student housing?
A. (Grant Sherwood) I am the director of housing at CSU. We have identified a number of
places on campus:
- talk with private developers
- potential for housing on main campus (South of Holiday Inn and Aggie Village)
- residence halls —opened at 98% capacity and apartments (Ram Village) were full with
50 on waiting list. It is tight in the fall.
- now there are 450 vacancies at residence halls (2nd semester)
- the university will tear down '/z of Green Hall --storage now.
- marketing is showing that the future is places like this.
- housing must be affordable.
32. As property owners right up to the property line we are concerned about lights and noise right
next to our backyard. There is no way to guarantee there won't be noise or that the tenants
will be mature.
A (Applicant) Can't address maturity. But we will have on -site management and security to
control and maintain our project. There will be an on -site management number to call if you
have complaints. We are trying to develop lighting that doesn't spill over into the
neighborhood.
33. I can see right out my back window... see the TVs in units in Sunray Apartments.
A. (Applicant) There's no landscape now between you and that project.
34. How long will it take for the trees to mature?
A. (Applicant) Several years.
35. Noise factor--- Will security have authority to break up a beer party?
A (Applicant) Yes, same resource.... call security.
36. There will be one person per room?
A: (Applicant) Yes.
37. No married couples?
A (Applicant) We cannot discriminate, but our project is geared for a student population and
rented on a one person per bedroom basis. No more than 4 people are allowed in a four
bedroom unit, three in a three bedroom unit, etc. There will be 6 management people, 2 full-
time maintenance./groundsmen and a security officer. A $200-$300 deposit is in jeopardy if
rules are violated.
38. What is the anticipated cost of the whole project?
A. (Applicant) $16 million to $17 million.
39. Are there any plans to expand King Soopers?
A. (Mike Ludwig) King Soopers was approved for a ten thousand square feet addition to the
north side of the existing store in 1986 but the approval has since expired. Recently, King
Soopers did contact staff to discuss the possibility of expanding but no development plans for
an expansion have been submitted for review.
A (Applicant) It slows cars down— we have become efficient at repairing/replacing them.
24. It seems to me that they are providing an absolute minimum of improvements! It's a
nightmare already. Put it there and it will be totally clogged.
25. What about the other P.U.D. down the road?
A. (Applicant) We did a traffic study for this development. The traffic study includes traffic
from existing developments as well as anticipated traffic from future development in the area.
26. You will have one security officer for 600 units?
A. It's only 15 acres-- it's walkable.
27. Do you plan on moving Moore Elementary School to keep the children out of danger?
A. (Applicant) No, I don't think we can do that. We are doing the best we can to make it as safe
as possible.
28. Are any speed bumps proposed for Ponderosa?
A. (ERIC) Speed bumps- no. Speed humps are possible but there is currently no budget for
any speed calming measures. The City is working on a process to prioritize streets which
need speed calming measures so that when a budget is available, it is spent effectively.
Ponderosa will be on the list.
29. I believe there are 640 homes to be built at the Ponds at Overland. That combined with other
developments in this area and a project of this density is too much.
A (Mike Ludwig) The City policies encourage infill development - development of vacant
parcels closer to the center of the City. The policies also encourage higher density uses near
shopping, schools, transit, etc. This site is an infill site which is close to existing services. It
can support a higher density.
30. How can we stop this kind of density?
A. (Mike Ludwig) 1. Attend the Planning and Zoning Board Hearing and express your concerns.
2. Write letters to the P & Z Board in care of the project planner. 3. If unhappy with the
decisions of the Board appeal to the City Council.
31. The university is growing. The students will not go away, if we don't approve a project like
this the students will not have a place to live and will continue to overcrowd single-family
houses in neighborhoods surrounding the University.
6. How do these improvements help left turns out of the project.
A. (Applicant) We would provide a left turn lane— easier to get out. There will be a stop sign.
There is not enough traffic volume for a light.
7. Entryway- Are you going to funnel people out onto Hillcrest and Ponderosa?
A. (Applicant) Minimal amounts of traffic from this development will use Ifillcrest and
Ponderosa. Destinations of the residents are more to the east (CSLD.
8. I feel good about the plan. My concern is traffic, It is already so bad. I m concerned about
the children and the school. People go down Hillcrest at 50 miles per hour!
A (Applicant) The most direct route to Taft Hill is Elizabeth Street.
9. People are trying to avoid the traffic light.
A. (Applicant) People avoid it now because the intersection is not fully signalized.
10. I've seen it, they're taking Ponderosa as a short cut to Taft Hill.
A. (Applicant) The main destination is to get to campus, which is east of our site.
11. What about going up Orchard to Taft?
A. (Applicant) There is an entrance/exit also proposed on Orchard Place. The City staff has
requested that Orchard Place be connected through.
12. One person was killed on Ponderosa.
13. People learn fast. The easy way is Ponderosa to Mulberry.
14. I disagree a little: People will go down Hillcrest to Clearview to Taft.
A. The traffic study indicates that the majority of the traffic will go east on Elizabeth to Taft IPill
with a secondary amount going east on Orchard Place to Taft Hill.
15. My concern is the opening of Orchard. The children walk to school along here and cross Taft
OU at Orchard Place. This trail provides a gathering place, a sense of community, people use
it. Now your going to make it unsafe with vehicles.
A. (Eric Bracke) I am the one who made them connect Orchard Place. The Orchard Place
connection has always been expected to be completed with the development of this property.
That is why Orchard Place to the east and west of the site does not have cul-de-sacs or dead
ends. The connection is intended to relieve impacts. There are currently no east/west
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PROJECT. Jefferson Commons
DATE. February 15, 1996
APPLICANT. JPI Texas Development
CONSULTANT: Geffroh Hatiman Architects
STAFF: Mike Ludwig
QUESTIONS. CONCERNS, CON04ENTS
I am concerned about the students using bikes. They won't always be using them. In three
years there will be no parking at CSU. Will there be a light at the project exit onto Elizabeth?
Elizabeth is horrendous in the mornings!
A (Applicant) This project includes connections to existing bike/pedestrian lanes and is on a
transit route (a transit stop is planned on Elizabeth Street at the projects entrance). Although
residents can't be restricted from driving, we are incorporating alternatives to driving. A
traffic light at the Elizabeth Street entrancelexit is not required but improvements will be
made to Elizabeth Street and also the Elizabeth/Taft Intersection.
2. Will the bus go into the project?
A. (Applicant) No. The bus will pick up in front of the project on North Side of Elizabeth
Street.
3. Are you going to put in a turn signal at Taft Hill Road and Elizabeth?
A. (Eric Bracke) We were going to put it in last fall, but that ice storm came ... the crews were
out picking up trees. Right now it's scheduled for the first week in March.
4. Could you explain how your project will blend improvements to Elizabeth Street?
A. (Applicant) West Elizabeth is a minor arterial. There will be 10 feet of landscaping and a 7
foot sidewalk.
5. That looks pretty narrow for a right turn. Will you make room for a bus?
A. (Applicant) Yes, Elizabeth Street will be widened. A bus will fit.