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Notes
Name
Pat Kalinec
Email Street Address (if you didn't get the mailing notice)
plkalinec@gmail.com
meeting notes?
Yes
Kalinel, Kaliner, Kalinec ???
Jim McCormick
iames.e.mccormick@gmail.com 3227 Glacier Creek Drive
yes
Candyce Edelen
cedelen@orooelgrowth.com 3209 Glacier Creek Drive
Yes
Allison Et Joe Sennett
allison.sennett@icloud.com 744 Campfire
yes
Greg 8 Kathy Clark
kclarkG02@qmail.com 909 Campfire
yes
Bob ft Peggy Grabbe
bbandoo@comcast.net 3409 Wagon Trail Road
yes
Josh Hersh
ihersh.TH@gmail.com
yes
Michael DiRen
bioadunt@vahoo.com 1021 Campfire
yes
email? Last name?
Bob @ Suzanne Cuomo
CUOMO.BOB@GMAIL.COM
YES
Kristin R Sheeran
ksheeranth@gmaii.com 951 Ridge Runner Drive
Fort Collins, CO 80524
yes
Pauline Skinner
Pauline09lO47@gmaii.com 950 Trading Post Road
Fort Collins, CO 80524
yes
Sharon Q Andrew Leask
skleask@gmail.com
yes
Christoffer Morgan
chris.mrgn65@qmail.com
yes
Laurie Et James Morrisette
laurie@watchdog
yes
email?
Lloyd Crumb
Ikcrumb.th@gmail.com
Vicky Hicks
vickv@trademarkomg.com HOA Management Company
yes
Patrick Ft Stephanie O'Neill
info@vernstoffee.com
yes
Kristy Klenk
aooddav4us@qmail.com 856 Glenloch
Fort Collins, CO 80524
yes
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Allison Anderson
ibakesacookie@vahoo.com
yes
Doug Clark
trulyawfulouitar@amail.com 827 Ridge Runner Drive
yes
Katie Cowart
onekatiec@gmail.com
yes
Neighborhood Meeting Notes - Page 14
C: I'd like to see the number of units reduced from 86 to 46.
Q: When would this be built?
R: It's aiming for 2018 third quarter to start building, with a 3-year buildout.
C: It would be great if they buyer of this property would maintain it starting now until it gets built. The Trail
Head entry area is looking bad, trees are dying.
R: Not sure how the entry got that way, but we will discuss what to do about that. We would like to at least
keep the trees alive. The whole front landscaping would be re -done with the development.
C: Back to parking, this looks like Bucking Horse which has almost exactly the same kind of townhomes. Can
you check that and see how it's working? Is there anything to learn from that?
R: We can check into that.
[Follow up — the HOA board of Bucking Horse feels that it is all working fantastic. No parking shortage on
streets. The units have driveways long enough to park a car in, and the garages are slightly oversized in
length. The developer is aware of covenants requiring cars be parked in garages, but obviously they are
difficult to enforce and are not used at Bucking Horse.]
C: Not sure you're grasping that we are very concerned about parking. We don't want parking on Greenfields,
Campfire, or Wagon Trail. We would like you to reduce the number.
R: Just for understanding, the first block of Greenfields coming in from Vine has no parking. After that, going
north, Greenfields does have parking available. There's a neighborhood park along there just to the north of
the townhomes and so some of the parking will serve that.
Q: What will this do for snow plowing on Campfire Drive?
R: It will not change anything in that regard.
Neighborhood Meeting Notes - Page 13
Q: Will the HOA coordinate garbage collection with the rest of Trail Head?
R: Yes, we have already started to coordinate to get same -day service.
Q: How will the Trail Head water allocation be split among HOAs and other users for the landscaping?
R: The development will meet the City's guideline of 15 gal/square foot/year. The water allocation is
adequate for this development.
Q: Will this qualify as Affordable Housing?
R: No. It is meant to be 'Accessible' with pricing as low as possible, aiming for the 300's but that is to be
determined depending on the costs to develop.
Q: Will these have basements?
R: No. It's not for geotechnical reasons, it's for price point. Can't hit that with the cost of basements.
C: Trail Head has basements. This will be different. People will store stuff in their garages and park on the
street if they don't have basements.
R: One thing being explored is whether we can have a covenant for parking in the garages. Obviously
enforcement of that would be tricky but we are looking into it.
Q: What will the architecture be like? Like Timbervine?
R: It's going to be a little different, creative, but not far outside the box, not metro mod like Timbervine.
C: Can see that parking is going to be extremely difficult. They're going to find their way up to my house
further up on Greenfields. We don't want parking on Greenfields. You can go down to the north sides of
Denver — what a mess.
Q: Can you keep it owner occupied? We don't want students at this lower price point. If investors buy these,
then you'll get multiple tenants and then have the parking problems. Maybe covenants can do that.
R: The financing depends on at least 50% owner occupancy. So at least at the beginning you will have at least
50%.
C: We have talked about parking on Greenfields, I want to bring up Campfire Drive. People are going to park
along there. It already gets a lot of parking. It's a narrower street and we don't want to see more parking.
R: For those 30' wide streets, the Traffic Engineering department has been making them parking on one side
only.
Neighborhood Meeting Notes - Page 12
A study will be part of the submittal into the development review process and any mitigation measures will be
determined in the process.
Q: Can you widen Timberline to add lanes?
R: Timberline Rd is shown in the master street plan as a 4 lane arterial from Vine to Mountain Vista. This
widening is not currently funded, and likely will not be required by this development.
Q: What is the plan for Greenfields — will it connect up to the 1-25 interchange at Mountain Vista Drive? Is it
an arterial? Will it connect south to Mulberry? Is there multi family or commercial zoning where it goes down
to Mulberry?
R: It may have been shown as a 'minor arterial' in the past but the current Master Street Plan shows it as a
collector that would extend to the north and east to connect to a future frontage road along 1-25 and to Elgin
Drive in Waterglen.
It will extend south to Mulberry. There is city neighborhood zoning along with 'Neighborhood Commercial'
zoning, which is meant to encourage grocery store -anchored commercial services.
C: We moved out here to get away from commercial, don't mind driving to the grocery store.
Q: There's been an increase in trucks — are they counted in the traffic study?
R: Yes all vehicles are counted including trucks. Vehicle turning counts are current and include existing truck
traffic, but the study does not specifically identify vehicle types.
Q: Will this provide streetlights along Vine? More are needed. It's dark, doesn't feel safe.
R: This project will provide for standard edge improvements including street lights according to city standards.
HOWEVER, because there's a larger long term plan to widen Vine, individual projects like this one may escrow
their share of funds for a future, larger project and so the final street width and edge conditions may NOT be
built at the time of development. Exactly what gets built with the development will be determined in the
review process.
C: The landscaping along Vine does not look adequate to make a nice edge where the backs of garages are
lined up along the edge. The Bull Run apartments to the west are an example of the backs of buildings,
storage, etc. being too exposed to the large public street.
R: That is a comment staff has noted in the Conceptual Review of the project. More landscaping, will be
needed for screening.
C: It is very difficult with these attached townhomes to police the maintenance and keep the units looking
good. Will the HOA take care of the landscaping and exteriors?
R: Yes, an HOA will maintain the landscaping and provide irrigation on the private lots.
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NEIGHBORHOOD INFORMATION MEETING NOTES
These notes capture staffs interpretation of questions, comments and ideas from the meeting.
PROJECT: Trail Head Townhomes
DATE: September 12, 2017 (Meeting Date August 28)
PLANNER: Clark Mapes
DEVELOPER TEAM: Ken Merritt, JR Engineering
City Planner Clark Mapes introduced the purpose of the meeting — to share information — and the
development review process, with this meeting being a very preliminary step. Information from the meeting
is to aid the developer in preparing a development plan submittal to the City of Fort Collins. If the project
proceeds to a hearing, the Planning and Zoning Board will be the Decision Maker. Another mailing would be
sent with notice of the hearing.
Ken Merritt explained the proposal for 86 townhomes in 2,3, and 4-unit configurations. Zoning is Low Density
Mixed Use Neighborhood (LMN) which permits the townhomes and requires a mix of housing types which is
partly satisfied in Trail Head by the proposed townhomes.
Parking would be in 2-car garages, along rear alley -style drives, and along Green Lake Drive.
Questions and Discussion:
Q = Question
R = Response
C = Comment
Q: You mentioned that this will have its own separate HOA. How will this HOA compensate the existing HOA
for detention pond maintenance. This will increase water runoff into ponds, thus increasing maintenance.
R: Good question, have not thought that through but will take it into consideration.
Q: What is the traffic impact at Timberline and Vine? Eastridge is already adding a huge amount of traffic
there ... when you add this development how will you keep it from becoming a standstill?
R: A signal is being planned and designed. The recent Waters Edge development provided partial funding for
that. A Traffic Study will be required to identify the impacts of this development. The developer had a
preliminary study done, and it looks like the proportional impact of this development will be relatively small.