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From: Eric Bracke
To: Troy Jones
Date: 517/02 10:49AM
Subject: Harvest Park
Harvest Park is amending their plan, Lot two, from 18 single-family homes to 29 Townehomes.
I will not be requiring any amendments to the TIS.
Eric
CC: Mark Jackson; Sheri Wamhoff; Tom Reiff
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Eric Bracke
Troy Jones
6/4/02 4:04PM
Re: Harvest Park - upcoming major amendment
The table below should help address the concern of the neighbors regarding traffic. As can be seen,
there is NO impact with the change in land use.
Summary of Multi -Use Trip Generation
Average Weekday Driveway Volumes
June 04, 2002
24 Hour AM Pk Hour PM Pk Hour
Two -Way
Land Use Size Volume Enter Exit Enter Exit
Single Family Detached Housing
18 Dwelling Units 172 3 10 12 6
Residential Condominium / Townhouse
29 Dwelling Units 170 2 11 10 5
Total 342 5 21 22 11
Note: A zero indicates no data available.
Source: Institute of Transportation Engineers
Trip Generation, 6th Edition, 1997.
Kind Regards,
Eric L. Bracke, P.E.
Traffic Engineer
(970)224-6062
ebracke@fcgov.com
>>> Troy Jones 06/04/02 02:26PM >>>
Eric,
Here's the neighborhood meeting minutes for the Harvest Park amendment to change one block of 18
single family homes to 29 townhomes. The neighbor's had quite a few traffic related comments, so I
thought I'd send these to you to keep you in the loop.
Troy
CC: Brittney Sorensen; Ward Stanford
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commercial center on Corbett Drive, the planned Poudre School District 2004 High School, and
the Elementary School on Kechter Road due to open this fall.
City Staff would not be in support of limiting this access point to emergency vehicles through the
use of "knockdowns" for the connectivity reasons stated previously. Limiting access on Rock
Creek Drive to emergency vehicles was not part of the design for Harvest Park or the design for
the original Timber Creek and Stetson Creek neighborhoods, even before Harvest Park was
conceptualized. Documents are readily available as public information from the City for these
neighborhood plans illustrating the full intention of the extension of Rock Creek Drive to the
east.
I hope this alleviates the concerns expressed by Mr. Adams and others in the community that
may share his view. Please let me know of any further questions or clarification needed
regarding this matter.
All development plans shall incorporate and continue all sub -arterial streets stubbed to
the boundary of the development plan by previously approved development plans or
existing development. All development plans shall provide for future public street
connections to adjacent developable parcels by providing a local street connection
spaced at intervals not to exceed six hundred sixty (660) feet along each development
plan boundary that abuts potentially developable or redevelopable land.
Because the code specifically states "potentially developable or redevelopable land", Harvest
Park was not required to create an additional east -west stub south of and parallel to Rock Creek
Drive along its western boundary; existing development within the Stetson Creek neighborhood
prevented the creation of this additional road connection. The Sage Creek development, directly
south of Harvest Park, does provide a stub to its western property boundary (to help with
connectivity) to the county parcels directly west if they were to redevelop to help with
connectivity. It is important to note that while the 660' spacing requirement is viewed as ideal
from a street connectivity standpoint and is part of "City Plan," which is the newer code applied
to development, the inability to meet this requirement is not viewed as a traffic safety issue. A
development can have connections at intervals less than 660' because of existing conditions and
still function properly with the sufficient number of collector level streets. "Infill" development
projects often are unable to provide this requirement because of development surrounding the
property, which did not have to meet this 660' requirement under old code. In these cases these
proposed developments are not judged as being a traffic safety issue because of their inability to
meet the 660' requirement. In that same regard, the existing surrounding neighborhoods are not
considered to have traffic safety issues simply because they did not meet this criteria, which was
not required under older code.
In every instance where a development is proposed, City Staff (including the Traffic Engineer)
evaluates the project from a traffic safety standpoint and will not allow a project to be approved
if traffic safety is an issue. Within the square mile boundaries of Harmony, Kechter, Timberline
and Ziegler Roads, City Staff is comfortable with the Rock Creek Drive -Timber Creek Drive -
Stetson Creek Drive connection and the Timberwood Drive connection serving as the two east -
west collectors (noting again that Sage Creek is providing a local street stub to the west which
will function to help further disperse traffic in the future). There are other square mile areas in
the City where only one east -west collector is required for traffic to function properly.
City staff feels confident that the full build -out of this area will result in a harmonious, safe
environment that will benefit existing and new neighbors alike. City Staff firmly contends from
both a transportation operations and community -planning standpoint that connectivity between
neighborhoods is important as an integral part of the City's development code criteria. While it
is true that an increase in vehicular use of Timber Creek Drive and Stetson Creek Drive will
occur with development to the east, the volume of traffic will still be consistent with the design
and function of the existing streets. Future residents of Harvest Park will benefit from this
connection by being able to more directly reach destinations such as the movie theatre
commercial center on Timberline; the use is consistent with the function of collector level streets.
At the same time, residents in the Timber Creek and Stetson Creek neighborhoods are more
directly able to reach destinations to the east such as the City's Harmony Park, the restaurant and
On January 5, 2000 the Harvest Park project went to an administrative public hearing for a
determination of whether the project met applicable Code requirements. Residents of Timber
Creek and Stetson Creek were present based upon the notification requirements of the City. As
part of the public testimony and record, it was again noted how Rock Creek Drive was being
extended from the Stetson Creek neighborhood through Harvest Park to Ziegler Road. The
administrative hearing officer took testimony from the developer, the City and the citizens
present and made the determination that Harvest Park was consistent with the City's Land Use
Code and approved the project. This approval also included the determination that the vehicular
impacts of Harvest Park to the surrounding communities were consistent with the classification
of the existing roadways.
Recently, Harvest Park informally submitted to the City a conceptual proposal to change
approved single family lots into multi -family townhomes. This proposed change, if submitted
formally to the City, is required to be evaluated against the City's Land Use Code and approved
at a public hearing in the same manner as the original Harvest Park development. Residents will
be able to voice their concerns regarding this proposed change, and this input by the public,
combined with testimony from City Staff and the developer, will be used to render a decision at a
public hearing.
On April 30, 2002, the City conducted a neighborhood meeting regarding this proposed change
to gather input in advance of the formal submittal. It was brought up by the public at the meeting
that there is a concem about this change and that this may negatively impact the existing road
network of Timber Creek Drive and Stetson Creek Drive. Although the project has not been
formally submitted to the City for evaluation, the City's Traffic Engineer has already indicated
that from a traffic (trip generation) standpoint, the traffic volume difference from single family to
townhome would be basically the same and the change of use causes no impact. This conclusion
is based upon the Trip Generation Manual ("Manual"), a national publication by the Institute of
Transportation Engineers. The data in the Manual indicates that a single-family dwelling unit
generates more traffic volume than a multi -family dwelling unit. This conclusion is based upon
the understanding that a typical single-family home will generally have more people in the
household, with a larger ratio of vehicles per person in the dwelling. Conversely, a typical condo
or townhome style home will generally have fewer people residing in the dwelling with also a
few number of cars per person. As a result the Manual projects that 18 single family dwelling
units would generate a total of 172 trips a day while 29 multi -family dwelling units would
generate 170 trips a day. Thus, based upon the Developer's conceptual plans, this proposed
change is not viewed as a concern by the City from a traffic impact point of view.
Mr. Adams also raised the question of whether the number of and distance between roads into
and out of Harvest Park meet city guidelines. I believe this stems from the neighborhood
meeting Mr. Adams attended where road connection issues were raised by the neighborhood.
City Staff had stated that typically a new development is required to provide stubs for future
street connections every 660 feet along the property lines abutting developable ground. This is a
requirement under 3.6.3(F) of the Land Use Code, which is noted below:
I am in receipt of the concerns raised by Mr. Harlie Adams regarding the connection of Rock
Creek Drive. While sympathetic with Mr. Adams' concerns, City Staff believes that this
connection is beneficial to both the existing neighborhoods and the developing neighborhoods to
the east. In order to properly respond to the concerns raised by Mr. Adams, history regarding the
development of the Stetson Creek and Timber Creek neighborhoods in conjunction with the
current development of Harvest Park follows.
In early 1994, the development of the Timber Creek and Stetson Creek neighborhoods began
with the City approval of the developments for Timber Creek First Filing and Stetson Creek First
Filing. Timber Creek First Filing created Timber Creek Drive, which connects to Timberline
Road, while Stetson Creek First Filing created Stetson Creek Drive, which also connects to
Timberline Road. With the City approval of the Stetson Creek Third Filing development in early
1996, the connection was made between Timber Creek Drive and Stetson Creek Drive at Rock
Creek Drive.
Throughout the City review process dating back to 1994, the development of both Timber Creek
and Stetson Creek neighborhoods called for both Timber Creek Drive and Stetson Creek Drive to
be designed and function as collector streets to carry traffic between neighborhoods. In addition,
both streets were designed to "meet" in a "Y" at their connection point with Rock Creek Drive.
Rock Creek Drive was designed back in 1996 to a collector street classification with the full
intention of the roadway continuing east of the Stetson Creek neighborhood if the property to the
east ever developed (which has developed into what is now known as "Harvest Park" or
"Harvest".)
Within Stetson Creek, Rock Creek Drive was built with a temporary turnaround at the end. This
temporary turnaround was built in order to allow emergency services and other large vehicles the
ability to turn around without having to use homeowners' driveways. The documents for Stetson
Creek Third Filing (available at the City) indicated back in 1996, even before Harvest Park was
ever conceptualized, that this turnaround was temporary and that Rock Creek Drive would be
extended with future development.
Harvest Park was submitted to the City for review in March of 1999. The City evaluated the
entire development from all aspects of impact before a decision could be rendered on the project
at a public hearing. On March 31, 1999, a neighborhood meeting was conducted for residents
surrounding the Harvest Park project, which included residents of Timber Creek and Stetson
Creek. It was presented at the meeting that Rock Creek Drive would be a full vehicular
connection from Harvest Park to the existing Timber Creek and Stetson Creek neighborhoods. In
addition, it was presented that Timber Creek Drive and Stetson Creek Drive were designed to
carry collector level volumes. In evaluation of the Traffic Impact Study, which is required by
every project proposed to the City, the City's Traffic Engineer determined that Harvest Park's
impact to surrounding development would result in the continuation of Rock Creek Drive
maintaining collector level volumes throughout the neighborhoods. The Traffic Engineer
determined that this is consistent with the design and function of the Rock Creek Drive, Stetson
Creek Drive, and Timber Creek Drive within the Timber Creek and Stetson Creek neighborhoods
and posed no objection to the vehicular link between the neighborhoods.
From: John Fischbach (C,14 M..'Tx)
To: CCSL
Date: Sun, Jun 9, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: Rock Creek Drive Traffic Concerns--CAUTION--Potentially a quai-judicial matter
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Eric Hamrickphad a communication from a resident, Mr. Harlie Adams, regarding Rock Creek Drive
Traffic Concerns. We have researced this and offer the following for your information.
Attached is a fairly extensive discussion of this Rock Creek Drive issue from the Transportation Services
Development Review Team. The primary person responsible for this excellent review is Marc Virata, one
of our Civil Engineers in Development Review.
There is also a map attached that may be helpful in understanding the street connections in that area.
Note: This is a development review issue that is in process and could be appealed eventually to
the City Council, thus it could be a quai-judicial matter.
Let me know if there is anything else you need on this
CC: Darin Atteberry; Diane Jones; Eric Bracke; Frank Bruno; Marc Virata; Mark Jackson;
Randy Hensley; Ron Phillips; Wanda Krajicek