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attend the Planning and Zoning Board hearing since they are the decision -maker. Planner
explained that based on the current zoning of the parcel, the developer has the right to develop
the property within those zoning parameters, requiring they meet the land use code. If the
project is not in compliance with Land Use Code requirements, planning staff will not
recommend approval to the Planning and Zoning Board. All appeals to Planning and Zoning
Board decisions are heard by City Council.
To whom do we direct questions that are not addressed now?
Pete Wray encourages attendees to call, email, or come in and meet with him for further project
clarification.
Sylvia Tatman-Buress also encouraged attendees to sign up for weekly Development Review
emails through Development Review website where she explains where plans are in the overall
process. She encouraged attendees to reach out to her if they have trouble finding any
information on the Development Review website.
Neighborhood Meeting Notes — 6029 S Timberline Rd I Hansen Farm Page 7
Nicole Hahn explained that the traffic study that is required with plan submittal would help the
city determine when the Zephyr intersection may become signaled, and that Zephyr is an
important connection in the area. She explained that crash data from the area indicates the
majority of collisions are rear ends and that the short lights on side streets keeps the majority
traffic moving, and ultimately reduces crashes. Enforcement is another option to help with red
light running if this is a common occurrence in this area.
• Please consider all grandfather clauses before moving forward with development. Is the
developer responsible for improvements to Timberline?
Nicole Hahn answered that the developer would be responsible for frontage on Timberline Rd
and would pay into a fund that helps pay for overall street and traffic improvements. The City is
looking at phasing for various connectors in the south end of town.
• Resident who previously assisted in drafting the Fossil Creek plan in the late 1990s
questioned timetable and status of transportation improvements.
Pete Wray explained that this area includes additional street connections and improvements
based on the Master Street Plan. Trilby is also in need of improvements.
Marc Virata confirmed Keenland is still identified as a crossing on the master street plan, but
coordinating with railroad and determining funding is a lengthy process. Update: The
connection shown on the master street plan at Keenland is a bike and pedestrian crossing only.
An update to the Master Street Plan is currently underway and this conversation can be
revisited if an connection is desired.
• Does the City require the developer to provide access to Willow Springs? Will the streets
be as narrow as Willow Springs and West Chase?
Mark Virata explained that in the single-family area, the public streets are designed to local
residential standards, and private drive has a narrower width for rear -loaded units. Regarding
the multi -family residential units, the City now requires a 36' flowline to improve navigation
adjacent to parked cars. Street access from this project to Willow Springs is not required since
an existing street stub -out is not provided from the north.
Public Involvement:
• Is there anything neighbors can do to stop the project?
Sylvia Tatman-Burress explained that this proposal is only in the conceptual review stage and
the meeting is happening so that neighbors can have their concerns heard. Concerns are listed
in the meeting notes and are considered by planning staff who make recommendations to the
Planning and Zoning Board. Comments can continue to be submitted to Sylvia Tatman-Burress
or Pete Wray. All comments are considered throughout the process and citizens have the
opportunity to voice concerns at the Planning and Zoning Board hearing. Public comments will
not necessarily stop a project, but other things could come up throughout the Development
Review process.
Pete Wray explained that all present attendees would receive a copy of the notes taken at the
meeting and they would also be sent to the Planning and Zoning Board. Emailed comments are
also included in the Planning and Zoning Board record. Pete Wray encouraged citizens to
Neighborhood Meeting Notes — 6029 S Timberline Rd I Hansen Farm Page 6
Zoning:
• Can you change the zoning plan as times change?
Pete Wray explained that the developer is entitled to the current zoning. The City has a process
for proposed changes to zoning, with a decision by City Council.
Traffic:
• Multiple attendees expressed that they do not want this development to have a vehicular
connection through to the Willow Springs neighborhood. One Willow Springs resident
asked developer for a commitment that they would not change the street pattern shown
in the rendering provided at the meeting.
Applicant responded that it was not their intent to provide any access directly into Willow
Springs or make any alterations from what was shown, and that fire requirements are what
determine access.
• What is the plan for Timberline? Where does widening occur? What is the Timeline?
Nicole Hahn explained that the Timberline widening project has recently been funded. This
project will widen Timberline to a 4 lane section and is slated for design.
Nicole Hahn and Mark Virata explained that widening Timberline between Stetson Creek and
Trilby will likely occur on both sides of the existing roadway depending on the frontage available.
Potential environmental impacts, and right of way needs resulting from the widening would be
considered in planning.
• Does the City plan to widen Trilby, too?
Mark Virata responded that there are no current plans to widen Trilby since heavy development
along the corridor has not yet occurred. Nicole Hahn explained that Trilby is, however, a future
consideration and the City is anticipating how the corridor may grow.
• How do you assume density without more specific plans to determine traffic needs?
Nicole Hahn explained that with a development proposal of this size, the developer is required
to submit a traffic study with density and other parameters set. If parameters change, then a
new traffic study is required. Multi -family residential is included in density.
• What is happening with Zephyr? Is it being extended to the west, south of the proposed
development like the rendering shows?
Pete Wray explained that the City wants that connection, but currently have no control over the
property south of where the development is proposed. The developer does not own the property
to the south.
Attendee asked what measures the City was taking to improve traffic monitoring. Noted
there are already too many crashes on Timberline and people speed through yellow
lights because they know how short the cycle is.
Neighborhood Meeting Notes — 6029 S Timberline Rd I Hansen Farm Page 5
• Comment stating the proposed multi -family units are not needed since there are 300
apartments up the road that are very expensive.
• Resident who previously assisted in drafting the Fossil Creek plan brought up density in
the area, indicating Willow Springs density is just over 3 dwelling units/acre. The density
is going up almost double for proposed development. Does not match with Fossil Creek
Plan (Pg 16 Ch 2) regarding transitions at neighborhoods.
Applicant responded that the higher density multi -family units are not adjacent to the 3 dwelling
units/acre found, and the zoning for the MMN requires a minimum of 12 dwelling units/acre. The
largest lots are along the ditch backing up to Willow Springs and density is feathered in the
middle.
Schools:
• What are the impacts on education? Where will these kids go to school? Existing
schools do not have capacity; Poudre School District needs to be aware. Also a safety
risk having additional traffic around Bacon Elementary.
Pete Wray explained how all of the existing schools in southeast Fort Collins were coordinated
with PSD in the late 1990s while drafting the Fossil Creek plan. PSD is aware of future
development opportunities. Planner did not want to speak on behalf of PSD regarding
enrollment capacity. Planner offered to check with school district if those interested desire
further information and can call or email him.
Nicole Hahn indicated that improvements for Timberline would have a separate public meeting.
The purpose of the traffic study required from the developer is a way to determine possible
future impacts that may indicate when larger infrastructure projects occur and ensuring safety
near the school is a high priority.
Parks:
• Would the proposed regional trail provide a railroad crossing? Neighborhoods are cut off
from major trail networks. What is the timeline for a crossing?
Suzanne Bassinger explained that a study of trail connections was completed a couple of years
ago. One option would be an above grade connection at Keenland, but an underpass was no
longer feasible. Some neighbors concerned about an above grade crossing near existing
neighborhood. Any proposal for an above grade railroad crossing visible from neighborhoods
would require a neighborhood meeting to discuss conceptual designs. It is possible that this
could be accomplished in 5-6 years.
• Comment stating the proposed multi -family units are not needed since there are 300
apartments up the road that are very expensive.
Neighborhood Meeting Notes — 6029 S Timberline Rd I Hansen Farm Page 4
Applicant also mentioned that the city only allows certain uses for the site specific to the existing
assigned zoning, and any new application would go through the development review process (at
a later time) and any potential use would have to meet the land use code.
• Question regarding the lot sizes proposed. Residents were told when they purchased
Willow Springs lots that any future development to the south would mirror their lot size.
What changed?
Pete Wray explained that the original 1998 Fossil Creek Reservoir Area Plan determined future
land uses and densities. The area south of Willow Springs was amended about 6 years after the
original plan to include a neighborhood commercial center and medium density mixed -use
neighborhood land use designations. Previous public discussions at that time included
recognizing similar single-family development abutting Willow Springs with future development
as being more compatible, while locating the multi -family and commercial further to the south.
The current LMN zoning is different than the zoning and development in Willow Springs. The
density range is between 4-9 dwellings units per acre. The potential for a transition of
residential densities and lot sizes is reflective in the Plan and zoning. The Low Density Mixed -
Use Neighborhoods zoning adjacent to Willow Springs allows for flexibility with future
development for providing a range of lot sizes and feathering of density in the area. The
proposed design shows single family detached dwellings on the north edge and next to Willow
Springs with slightly smaller lots sizes than the existing neighborhood, but consistent with
current zoning.
• Question regarding the proposed spacing between the new residential buildings on
these smaller lots?
Applicant indicated that their building plans would meet all city requirements for setbacks and
spacing appropriate to the various zone districts present. The minimum side yard setback is 5'
from the property line to the building.
Pete Wray and Suzanne Bassinger explained that the Mill Creek Ditch runs along the south side
of Willow Springs. The ditch has a 30 foot easement that would create open space between the
existing lots and proposed lots. The City is proposing a regional trail connection along the ditch.
• Why don't you know specifics about what is going in development and when will you
know?
The applicant explained that the Overall Development Plan (ODP) is the next phase after this
conceptual review. The ODP includes defining density, access, trails, etc. This is a phased
project with the LMN zone district going in first, with the multi -family residential and commercial
to be developed later as part of separate development applications. The density is defined by
the existing zoning, and the layout will again be available for public comment. All proposals will
meet the land use code.
Applicant explained that with development today, single-family residential lots are planned out
first. Townhomes, apartments, and commercial development are more complicated and typically
occur as future phases, until a user is present to determine layout and amenities. Based on the
market, the developer is certain the need is there. Anyone buying a home in the proposed
development knows the adjacent areas are zoned as they are and should anticipate the multi-
family units and commercial developing in the future.
Neighborhood Meeting Notes — 6029 S Timberline Rd I Hansen Farm Page 3
Questions/Comments and Answers
General Topics:
• What is the HOA plan for this development?
Applicant explains that the development will have an HOA; likely multiple HOAs for the different
uses. HOAs would comply with Colorado standards.
• Questions regarding the quality and aesthetics of the development; approximate value,
square footage, price range, height?
Developer ventured that the price would be based off of the lot price, with properties selling in
the ballpark of $500,000. Houses would range from 2,000-3,000 square feet but could be larger.
Developer did not comment on the aesthetic/layout of the houses until they have a builder.
Developer states that these will be one and two story homes.
Pete Wray explained that when the developer submits a formal proposal to the city, the proposal
includes detailed site plans and elevations, all of which are available for public view online.
[Development Review website: http://www.fcgov.com/developmentreview/1
• Can you make lot sizes more in balance with the Willow Springs lots to the north?
Developer explained that there is a sizable landscape buffer off of the Mail Creek Ditch along
the north property boundary, and as a result, this is the plan they are putting forth consistent
with existing zoning, and they do not intend to change lot sizes.
• Do petitions have any sway with the city?
Pete Wray explained that this proposal would be subject to Planning and Zoning Board
approval, and that the Planning and Zoning board wants to see all comments made throughout
the review process. Citizens are also able to comment at Planning and Zoning Board hearings.
Sylvia Tatman-Burress encouraged attendees to refer to existing plans that have already been
adopted by City Council and reference where they believe the proposed development fits or
does not fit with existing zoning or land use. She also mentioned that the Planning and Zoning
board functions with legal parameters and they like to hear from neighbors.
• Why would you put commercial on Timberline?
Pete Wray answered that this Neighborhood Commercial (NC) zone designation was added to
the Fossil Creek Plan in the late 1990s and City Structure Plan maps, with the intent that the
center would be smaller than a typical shopping center with grocery store. These policy plans
established future land use and zoning both approved by City Council. The intent of the zoning
would be for a neighborhood supported uses such as a coffee shop, offices, convenience
stores, or laundromat.
The Applicant explained that any future commercial development would have to go through
normal steps with the City; the developer was just putting that designation on their plan. The
Neighborhood Meeting Notes — 6029 S Timberline Rd I Hansen Farm Page 2
City of
F6rt Collins
Hansen Farm - Mixed -Use Project
Neighborhood Meeting Notes (6/20/2017)
Overview
City Staff:
Project Planner: Pete Wray, Senior City Planner, AICP
Sylvia Tatman-Burruss, Development Review Liaison
Marc Virata, Civil Engineer III
Nicole Hahn, Civil Engineer II
Suzanne Bassinger, Parks
Anna Simpkins, Planning Technician
Jeff Mark, Applicant — The Landhuis Company
Kristen Turner, Applicant — TB Group
Neighborhood Meeting Date: June 20, 2017
Proposed Project
Community Development and
Neighborhood Services
Planning Services
281 North College Ave.
P.O. Box 580
Fort Collins, CO 80522
970.221.6750
970.224.6134 - fax
tcgov. com/developmentreview
■ Purpose of meeting is to share conceptual plans at an early stage in process and gather
feedback from neighbors for inclusion in record.
■ Hansen Farm — 6029 S Timberline Rd.
■ This is a conceptual review project and an application has not been submitted to the City
■ Majority of the site is in the Low Density Mixed -Use Neighborhood (LMN) District, and the
eastern section falls in to Medium Density Mixed -Use Neighborhood (MMN) District and
Neighborhood Commercial (NC) Zone Districts.
■ Maximum allowable building height in LMN is 2 and one half stories.
• Proposed initial phase of development includes 126 Single -Family detached Residential lots,
and 60 single-family attached (townhome) residential Units. The remaining zoning identified for
future phases includes a neighborhood commercial center, Medium Density Mixed -Use
Neighborhoods (multi -family) residential, and small neighborhood park, located at the
southeastern corner of the parcel.
■ Type 2 review and hearing, with the Planning and Zoning Board as acting decision maker.
Applicant Presentation
■ The applicant is in the conceptual review stage. A formal development proposal has not yet
been submitted to the City for review.
■ Applicant proposed a mixed -use development with single family lots, townhomes, multi -family
structures and open park space that will be dedicated to the City.
■ Primary access off Timberline Drive.