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Home My WebLink AboutWEST PLUM STREET PUD - PRELIMINARY ..... FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING - 10-96 - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGtZ,t� V t�ri V V L l `i Vl til 11V1�1 i11EETIN G 1 LIC You Rccci•,e Carr f r;c:c¢ YociLca. orl..cdress this mccc:=s? ZIP Yes No Yesl No z5z4 w .Fug �n�Z I I lul .11�Ntl Tt 270b-Kiow 6w, Lz IXI ,-r,�►�as Lit3tVf)4?.K SOU LM L\/Lb a �A A. That has nothing to do with mitigating project........ 53. Was Pear Street not planned to go all the way, continuing through? --was pond omitted w. a lot of street drainage A. If put 10 lots or as few as 5 lots-- still use onsite water detention-- rare not have to do storm water detention -open space of tremendous value 54. If you want to make somebody happy, leave it as it is. I would buy it tomorrow if I had the money. I'd like it to be open. When do we say NO to building more houses?! • 43. YES WE WANT A SECOND MEETING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 44. I am Peter Tippin with Remax..... I'll be doing the marketing -OWNER OCCUPIED ONLY -reasonably priced homes 45. ' How about 5 years later? A. Today new home prod. made for rental but not this.......... 46. Does the land survey show property lines? Also, which ditch? A. Won't show up until ........................ 47. At the next meeting, could we have Roger Buffington from water and waste water attend? Then we could get some more specific answers. A. Sure.... 48. Is there on site detention? A. Temporary detention with discharge directly into the street -15,000 cubic -store on this property * * * something about the 100 year flood*** 49. It seems like the city is always changing the rules --when develop another-- looks different -- density /utilities TED... storm water regulations are the toughest they've ever been. When it comes to utilities the rules are stricter.......... and fees are up. The rules are the same as in 1981.(land planning) 50. If this is zoned for low density....... understand that zoning -will be required for on site detention? A. Yes absolutely. 51. Why? A. -->once look at several lots on property -no offsite property/ cannot dump onto ground quicker --whether or not it's 2 lots or 5 lots per acre. 52. Pay storm drainage fee now? I pay $100 per month for 1.5 acres. PR§c } MITCH... May --planning and zoning/2 to 6 months for util. agreements -at best- fall(start building) 34. We come to this meeting and leave with general purpose. -what if nobody likes the project? -what is to say generally people don't like it but it's his land to do with as he pleases -all come out to be 2 story houses 35. Does it make a difference if we get upset or not? TED... This is your chance to tell them what you don't like about the project. 36. What if it falls on deaf ears? TED...-height restrictions, density, set backs -keep picking away at it ....... may be listing- may be not. 37. (KM)Part of my responsibility is to get this approved. We're here to find out what the likes and dislikes are. I value the comments Ne heard here today. 38. It's difficult to see how this fits into the whole neighborhood. <people could see how fit in> ... hard to tell. Need to see adjacent lots. 39. Those people around there think someday it will be developed. -dealing with diff. plan-- houses... A. Your comments on how it will fit in are good ---along east property line-- 5 lots -density compare 2 1/2 - 3 to 5 on Plum -lot frontages compatible 40. We have several properties. We rent to college students and there are lots of vehicles on the street. Can you restrict it to owner occupancy? How much parking is there in the development? Have you considered this as part of the covenants? A. We can consider it ----- need to check 41. You're talking 2 car garage/ 20 feet wide on drive/ leave room for 1 car A. Covenants can provide some control. TED... Our regulations-- can park on the street for 48 hours... then it is an abandoned vehicle... will have to pay fine$$$ 42. Every house provides 2 off street parking..... P 5� L71 NUTCH... No road access... probably would have said in conceptual if plan to widen. 25. Utilities............ -us on Timber Lane ... loop water line <on Plum St. -tied to each other?> water pressure - Will it reduce our water pressure? A. The development would have to extend and fully loop the water lines back. 26. Do these questions come up in the preliminary and final review? A. Oh, yes. 27. Does the power come down Timber Lane/ Plum Street?/?/? We have power surges quite often and the City says it's not there. 28. Electrical-- along east side of the property-- the utilities are above ground. When will they be put underground? The City says it will happen. A. I have seen some plans... -South side of Elizabeth/ it's not the intent of this'project to take them down -City is to put all underground 29. I spoke with an electrical engineer at the city... -criteria for burying power lines -when they repave they do it 30. So in this development, their utilities will be underground and ours not? A. Yes, we have to conform to the "rules". 31. If this does go through... if you buy a piece of property do you have to build a house on it? A. If the price is good enough .... no.(ha ha ha) -buy land with choice of homes to be built 32. Is there a way to eliminate the 2 story houses? A. no answer 33. What is the time frame for this development? A. 9 week process/ submit plan within 60 to 90 days -when we get approval, it'll then be another 9 to 10 weeks -the whole thing lasts about 6 months 4/? in f 16. When the development was proposed <north on Pear St.> we talked about density. My concern is, does this fit in there? 17. His feelings mirror mine and my husbands. We did expect this area to be developed. 18. Why does this have to be a P.U.D. anyway? A. -->are doing narrower streets -6000 square foot minimum lot size -common open space area.... all beneficial to do PUD 19. Why here? It's because of density right? A. -add compatibility -1 story, single family, lot size is compat. -There are homes that close. 20. I understand you have to do a cul-de-sac. Is there any way to provide pedestrian access to Elizabeth? Otherwise you would have to go clear around. A. -bring all out to Plum, Rocky Road -we've talked of pedestrian access/ we are in the process of purchasing the land. -issue that Doug brought up... current land owner would have to be willing to provide this access. 21. Elizabeth has been widened to accommodate... road important and development is important to what touches/ should be ..... How will this be addressed? A. In conceptual review access to Elizabeth was discussed. No more curb cuts are desired. We're dealing with a portion of the site, the northern portion. 22. Is there any approval needed to split the property? x A. 16 lots? M? M !?>......... 23. Would that be part of the subdivision? A. Yes is would. 24. SUBJ. to widening Elizabeth? A. I can't really answer that. TED... We have to be careful of supreme court decision -case could be made/we'll have to think about it ?K* 34 in • A. There will be some buffering along the front. We may put in a tree lawn, a 4 to 5 feet walkway, and then a 3 to 4 foot shrub line ... <masonry wall> 8. Who is responsible for the upkeep of this development? A. The area will be commonly owned. <detention pond/front green... ground> ...will be part of the homeowners' association. The front yards will be taken care of by the individual lot owners. 9. If I live on Timber Lane or Rocky Road, how close will this be to us? If it's a 2 story, what happens to our view? A. They are fairly deep back yards, so about 50 to 70 feet apart. A#2. The outer lots could be 1 story --- 1 story development. (There's less square footage in a ranch.) 10. When I moved to Rocky Road, I was told that no one would ever build in that area because . of the high water tables. A. Water table drops after land is developed----- land no longer irrigated. 11. You are aware that the south ditch is in use? A. Perhaps it is. 12. You are going to have seepage..... A. There will be a water wall to prevent seepage... measures would be taken to mitigate 13. Are you anticipating these houses to have basements? A. Option for basements... - will depend on level of water table - ability for sewer elevation/ basement could be garden level 14. Then the houses we see here are no longer 1 story but 1 1/2? A. That's a possibility. 15. <situation with basement and water table> The density is very high, unlike the surrounding homes. They're just small homes on small lots. It's not fitting to the neighborhood. I also don't understand how 16 homes fit there ..... consistency... PAct 2/7 f PROJECT: Plum Street P.U.D. DATE: January 25, 1996 APPLICANT: Doug Viita CONSULTANT: Ken Merritt STAFF: . Mitch Haas, Planner • 16 detached single-family homes in small cul-de-sac development • 1200 to 1400 square foot homes • $120,000 to $130,000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. What is the average lot size? These look pretty small. A. 2. A. 3. A. 4. 5. A. 6. A. 7. The lots vary.... 50 foot frontage... 120 feet deep... 110 to 90 feet along back/rear How does that compare to the existing neighborhood? There will be about 5 units per acre. They are smaller but not substantially smaller. We have pushed the houses to the side of the lots, creating more "yard space." Does the density calculation exclude the street area? The calculation includes the totral area of the site ... density in the city includes the whole area. I feel like this will look quite crowded compared to what's around it. 16 homes on 3 acres is ridiculous! ... I don't get developing the 3 acres, that's silly. How many feet are there between the main road and this area? About 10 feet ... 15 feet front to back... 20 to 22 feet to back wall -- smaller homes. Does that mean, back to Plum Street is 20 to 22 feet? About 50 feet off the current edge of the walk way. One thing about the houses on Plum is that they all face Plum Street. These all face inward. 'DACaG 14