HomeMy WebLinkAboutLINCOLN JR. HIGH SCHOOL FIRST ANNEXATION - 13-98 - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGNEIGHBORHOOD INFORMATION MEETING
Lincoln Junior High School Annexation and Zoning
Tune 10, 1998
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30. (Applicant) If the process says no, we won't continue to seek annexation.
Again, this is something that the District initiated and the City is obligated to
take us through the process.
31. We don't want to be in the City. We pay school taxes as well and may not
vote for school taxes in the future.
Applicant: There isn't a plot going on here. The District is seeking
annexation because we believe it is in the best interests
of the children.
32. Years ago, the City tried to annex but was stopped short because it wasn't
legal. We want to keep the City at arms length.
33. Is the City hungry to annex land?
City: We are doing enclave annexations only to the extent legally
able to do so.
34. Given the traffic concerns on Vine Drive, what would change the
improvements on Vine Drive? Can we, as County residents, go to the City to
request a light on Lancer Drive?
City: Yes, you would need to contact the City's Traffic Operations
Department. Since the road would be within the City limits,
we would be the ones responsible for the streets.
35. Where are you going to put the ditch?
City: We are still in the process of determining this. The initial
plan done in 1980 didn't address anything north of Vine
Drive. We are in the process of hiring a consultant (this
summer) and will notify affected property owners to discuss
alternatives.
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of a soccer field/lacrosse field may require review by the
City's Planning and Zoning Board as a site plan advisory
review. At the time that the District would want to construct
such improvements, the intergovernmental agreement
between the Poudre School District and City of Fort Collins
would be reviewed to determine whether such a review
would be required. The current IGA does state the review is
required "prior to construction of any improvements" and is
intended to comply with the requirements of State statutes.
It would need to be determined whether ball fields equates
to "improvements."
County: The question relates to the County's proposed stormwater
fees. These<are based on the amount of "developed" and
"undeveloped" land on the property. Residential uses are -=_.--
given rebates for which the school is ineligible.
25. Does the expansion of the ball fields equal development?
City: This question needs to be researched. A separate letter
addressing this issue is attached.
26. What improvements will result from annexation?
City: The annexation will not result in improvements to Vine Drive.
As a part of the City limits, the City's Streets Department will
assume maintenance of the road. However, it is likely that
both City and County maintenance crews will provide
service.
27. Is there a minimum size for annexation?
City: No.
28. Why is the recommended zoning Urban Estate.
City: In recommending zoning to the Planning and Zoning Board
and City Council, we review the City Structure Plan and City
Plan upon which to base zone districts. Urban Estate zone
district is consistent with what is defined on these plans.
29. Will a City police officer be placed on this site?
Applicant: The District has requested additional resource officers from
the City. If the annexation does not occur, the Sheriff's
representative will remain.
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generation.
19. What are the County interests in annexation?
City: There is an intergovernmental agreement in effect between
the City and County that both jurisdictions must follow
regarding future annexations. This agreement in effect
since 1985 states that the City will process applications for
voluntary annexations. An Annexation Impact Report was
forwarded to the County Commissioners for review and
comments.
20. We feel like the City and Poudre School District are initiating a process that
will affect residents and require mandatory annexation.
21. Is the "enclave" eligible for forced annexation?
City: Right-of-way itself does not create an enclave eligible for
forced annexation. It is not a legal enclave.
22. We are talking about all the water uphill that goes downhill, and we want to
know if the school is responsible.
City: Annexation itself doesn't require the school to make
improvements. Most of the basin is in the County, and since
the County doesn't collect fees for storm drainage, there are
no funds available to make improvements. As soon as the
school is within the City limits, the school will be required to
pay storm drainage fees.
Applicant: The District has voluntarily initiated stormwater
improvements to other school sites.
23. Will the proposed annexation result in the adjacent property owners being
required to put in sidewalks?
City: No, the sidewalk will not improved until new development
occurs. At that time, the developer will be responsible to
complete the improvements.
24. How does the City define developed? What has changed form the original
condition?
City: The City defines "development" in the Land Use Code. A
copy of this definition is attached to the minutes.
Depending on the nature of the improvements, the addition
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Applicant: The E911 would have changed the computer so that when
you call and say there's a disturbance at the school, the City
Police will respond. It is likely that both jurisdictions may
respond in case of emergency, however, it's likely that the
City will arrive first. The Sheriff's Department is underfunded
and undermanned.
14. If children are playing in the canal, when I call 911, who will come?
Applicant: If you say the school is involved, the Police will come first
and then the Sheriff's Department. We are attempting to
expand the resource officer program in hopes that these
activities can't be limited. Please let the District know if
this is occurring, and we will try to take care of the problem.
15. Are you proposing, if the annexation is approved, to add new ball fields, are
will that happen even if the annexation fails? Will you address bathrooms
and more parking?
Applicant: The ball fields will be addressed regardless of the
jurisdiction. For more bathrooms, we will probably add
additional porta-potties.
16. Will there be night games?
Applicant: The District doesn't need lighted fields, however the City's
Park and Recreation Department and the Youth Baseball
Program has expressed some interest. If a proposal to light
the fields was brought to us, we follow a public process
through the District similar to this one. The Districtwould be
supportive of installing lights on the property.
17. If you are not annexed, will this still be an issue?
Applicant: The annexation does not affect the installation of the lights.
Currently, there is no proposal on the table to install lights.
We may install a pole with no lights for data communication
network.
18. What does the District plan to do with the road and stormdrainage.
Applicant: It is not the District's job to widen roads. Any improvements
to Vine Drive would be a capital project funded by the City or
County or be related to impacts associated with future
development, based upon an analysis of proposed traffic
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Applicant: Not here. We are providing one at Poudre High School. If
the study shows that one is required, we will provide one.
7. This is a public school and you are a developer?
Applicant: Yes, it is a public school, but we are considered to be a
developer and we pay fees, etc.
8. Is the school public property?
Applicant: Yes.
9. If you are a developer, how do you escape paying street oversizing fees and
storm drainage requirements?
Applicant: We weren't required to pay these fees when Lincoln Junior
High School was constructed. We met all the requirements
at the time of development.
10. The new fence you constructed hides the fire hydrant. Isn't that illegal?
Applicant: No, the Poudre Fire Authority has an universal key so that
they can access the equipment they need to. There was a
fire here on May 30th of last year and the response time for
our personnel was less than three minutes. Access to the
fire fighting equipment is not an issue.
11. Here in the morning when there is a storm (at the comer of Taft Hill and Vine
Drive) the traffic backs up.
Applicant: We don't dispute that there is a traffic problem.
12. What are the advantages to us? What about the increase to the ball fields?
Applicant: The fields will be used at different times so the parking and
traffic can be accommodated.
13. What is the impact on residents?
Applicant: If the Police are called for an emergency, the Sheriff's
Department can still respond. The Fort Collins Police
Department as an agreement with County regarding
responses.
13. What if something happens in the middle of Vine Drive?
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Another reason the District is seeking annexation is the smoking
ordinance. The County doesn't have such an ordinance and the City
does enforce a smoking ordinance that states anyone under the age of
18 cannot possess tobacco.
• We do have plans to continue the development of the ball fields
(soccer and lacrosse) as funds become available.
• As many of you do know, we have some occurrences of graffiti. We
do not anticipate that the change in police will necessarily stop this
from occurring.
Questions Answers, and Comments
1. The annexation of the school will mean you will be responsible for the
increase in City utilities and others upon our properties.
Applicant: This annexation only includes public right-of-way and the
school site itself. You are not included in the proposed
annexation.
2. Did the District do financial impact studies?
Applicant: We don't believe any are needed.
3. Why was the Irish Elementary School annexation dropped?
Applicant: The County requested that we wait to proceed on the.
annexation of Irish until the drainage study is completed.
4. Then why not wait on Lincoln Junior High School?
Applicant: The County didn't request us to wait.
5. Do you consider yourselves developers? Will you complete road
improvements?
Applicant: These types of improvements are not deemed to be the
District's responsibility. At the time the school was
constructed, the District did all the improvements that
were required. We do have a long range project to evaluate
the traffic at all the schools. We have requested $5,250,000
to address the situation at over 20 schools, in conjunction
with the City and County (whichever jurisdiction is affected.)
6. Will a detention pond be required?
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NEIGHBORHOOD INFORMATION
MEETING MINUTES
Project: Lincoln Junior High School 1st and 2"d Annexations
Date: June 10, 1998
Applicant: Poudre School District
Representatives: Ken Forrest
Ron Daggett
Ellyn Dickman
City Staff: Dan McArthur, Neighborhood Resources Department
Bob Blanchard, Current Planning Department
Leanne Harter, Current Planning Department
Glen Schlueter, Stormwater Utility
Lisa Dunn, Larimer County Operations (employed jointly by
City and County)
Project Description
Mr. McArthur opened the neighborhood information meeting by explaining the
basic ground -rules of the meeting. He then introduced the various individuals
with the Poudre School District, the City and the County. Ms. Harter gave a brief
overview of the planning process to detail upcoming dates for the Planning and
Zoning Board and hearings by the City Council on the proposed annexations.
Mr. Forrest with the Poudre School District explained the reasons for which the
District pursued annexation proceedings. He outlined the following:
• The District already has several partnerships with the City of Fort
Collins, including Transfort, resource officers at the schools, and Park
and Recreation Department activities. The proposed annexation
would facilitate the cooperative spirit of these partnerships.
• In addition, the District would receive more favorable utility rates from
the City of Fort Collins for the Lincoln Junior High School site.
• The City has a larger pool of funds for road maintenance than the
County, and therefore, the annexation of Vine and Lancer Drives could
result in better maintenance.
• The Lincoln Junior High School is already considered by most to be a
City facility. There are ball fields that members of the community use,
as well as the school site itself at times.