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Home My WebLink AboutMAPLE HILL, PHASE ONE - PDP - 29-00A - CORRESPONDENCE - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGsecondary road. NCR 11 is hitting a `roadblock' to Vine — getting resistance from residents there. County Road 9 is a good road, but isn't a throughway to town. The City appears to want to cooperate with the residents this affects, as the options they have are limited. Design work is underway for a 52-foot roadway (the new NCR 11) to the east, which would include 8' bike lanes in both directions, 12' travel lanes on both sides, and a 12' center turn lane. Timing of this new road will depend on the number of new houses being built and the construction of a pedestrian underpass walkway system by the intersection of NCR 11 and CR 52. This new road is probably at least two years out. We will work with the City and the developers to try to influence it being built as soon as possible. Improvements to Existing Road Prior to Interim Widening: We are concerned that installation of fire hydrants, curb and gutter, and underground utilities be done in a timely manner prior to its widening to 36 (addition of 6' bike lanes on each side). Joe stressed that it is to our advantage that the City provides the best road possible because when and if it becomes a private road, we will have to maintain it. The county will not maintain it; the City has taken over other developments in the past which have brought their roads up to acceptable standards. Because of our unusual situation, Joe feels we have somewhat of a chance of them providing maintenance for us if we are annexed into the City. Improvements After Relocation of NCR 11: This should include installation of a privacy fence to mitigate the effects of traffic, entrances identifying our subdivision, and maintenance of a 26' wide separation with grassy areas/sidewalk/ landscaping. We also need to plan for the maintenance of our 20' wide private drive (if we do it right, it should last 20+ years). Development of a Country Club Heights Homes Owners Association: The advantages of developing an HOA was discussed. It could help identify areas of concern and improve mutual support among homeowners, providing a unified voice that would ensure better results. Because of different concerns, it may make sense to have a separate one for homeowners adjacent to NCR 11 and another HOA for homeowners adjacent to Richard's Lake Road. Steve Stansfield volunteered to work with Joe Coyte and Mac Danford to look into what would be involved with setting up such an association. Additional Input and Inquiries: Who bears the costs for improvements? It could cost $2000 per home for curb and gutter to be installed on NCR 11, in conjunction with the road widening, as a means to provide a solid edge for the asphalt closest to our homes and also help improve drainage. [Follow-on action: Matt Baker, City Street Oversizing Program, told Joe this seems like a reasonable estimate for curb and gutter, as well as the costs for some tie-in of existing driveways to the widened road Matt also said there are some things that can be done to improve drainage on the road] It could cost $750 per home for three additional fire hydrants on NCR 11 (cost of $4,000 per hydrant). [Follow-on action: Joe met with Webb Jones from ELCO. The latest plans call for four new hydrants, 600' apart, to be put on NCR 11 between Richard's Lake Road and CountryClub Road Webb said ELCO is looking for the developer to pay for the new hydrants rather than the homeowner.] Country Club Heights Neighborhood Meeting Minutes February 23, 2003 A neighborhood meeting was held on February 23, 2003, to provide neighbors with information and obtain their input on issues related to the future developments affecting our neighborhood. Joe Bleicher chaired the meeting. The following issues were discussed (follow-on actions which took place are shown in brackets and italics): The Status of Ongoing and Proposed Developments: Hearthfire — 87 permits issued. Richard's Lake (North) — 78 permits issued, up to 682 units. Maple Hill (East) — Up to 667 units, beginning site work in October 2003. Lind Property (Northeast) — Up to 775 units, beginning site work in June 2003. Road Naming_Meeting: Announcements went out to neighbors on this meeting which will take place at Tavelli School on Monday, March 3, 2003, from 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. There will eventually be new names selected for NCR 11 and CR 52. It was discussed at the meeting's close that this would be a good time to ask questions on annexation. Joe agreed to talk with Mr. Ted Shepard, Chief Planner, on this issue. [Follow-on action: Ted did not want this issued raised at the Road Naming Meeting. He said we should write the City to have a planner assigned to work with us on the annexation issue. We will make this request.] Pros and Cons of Annexation to the City: Pros: Have more of a political voice on city issues which affect us. Underground utilities performed by City at no cost to homeowners. Possible lower electricity rates. Quicker police response time by City (in contrast to Larimer County Sheriff). The City appears to be more responsive to neighborhood concerns. Cons: 3% city tax imposed on vehicles and purchases delivered to our homes. Issues Related to Richard's Lake Road: Nick Yobbagy said that Richard's Lake Road has different concerns than NCR 11. These concerns are not only traffic -related but include enforcing dust control, as well as debris such as tumble weed blown from the development by the wind_ Also, it's still undefined on whose shoulders the responsibility lies for these problems. Issues Related to NCR 11 Frontage Road: Overall Plan for Relocation of NCR 11 to the East A dramatic increase of traffic is expected as development continues, with up to 16,000 vehicles traveling this road each day by 2010 (comparable to Lemay south of Boardwalk). In addition, drainage problems and beat -up road conditions are a major concern. Timberline is being planned as the main artery to North Fort Collins (but may take some time), with NCR 11 being a 2/28/2003 Report on Neighborhood Meeting on the NCR 11 Frontage Road And Developments Dear Neighbors in the Country Club Heights Subdivision: Attached are minutes and follow-on actions from the neighborhood meeting which was held last Sunday, February 23rd. We met to provide neighbors with information on issues affecting us and obtain their thoughts on these issues. We were very encouraged that neighbors were volunteering to work on issues such as the homeowners association. Nick, Kirvin, and I plan to continue to work as neighborhood representatives on these developments, but we certainly appreciate the help and expertise that you can provide. Your continued support and participation in our efforts on behalf of our neighborhood will make a difference in the outcome. As a reminder, on this Monday evening, March 3'd, there will be a Road Naming Meeting at Tavelli School from 7:00-9:00 PM. You should have received a letter recently on this meeting. Both NCR 11 and CR 52 are among the roads to be renamed through this process. Please call me at 407-0531 if I can provide more information or answer any questions. As I noted in the minutes for the meeting, I am available to meet separately with anyone at their convenience to discuss issues in more detail. Sincerely, oe Bleicher For Neighbors in the Country Club Heights Subdivision Attachment: Minutes of February 23, 2003, Neighborhood Meeting When would each phase of development begin? It makes more sense to do certain improvement projects (underground utilities, curb and gutter, fire hydrants) so we don't have to tear up the newly paved road. It's crucial to spell out a clear plan and come to some agreement before all this all begins, which perhaps will help facilitate the actual timing of events. There was concern that actual paving would start in March and lack of time would preclude these improvements. [Follow-on action: Joe met with Matt Baker, City Street Oversizing Program, who said that bidding may take place in March, but asphalt would not be laid prior to mid -May or June. Matt understands our concerns on getting work done on fire hydrants, curb and gutter, and utilities prior to the oversizing. He is working with Excel Energy to get utilities underground between Mountain Vista Rand and Douglas Road (but this effort will not take place prior to the road widening.) This undergroun&ng of utilities is independent of whatever we do on the issue of annexation to the City. Joe told Matt that he would assist Craig Farver, the project engineer for the street widening, in coordinating this effort with neighborhood residents. j How can we help? Everyone expressed a sincere appreciation for all of the time and effort provided by Joe, Kirvin Knox, and Nick Yobbagy. It was overwhelmingly felt, though, that if we all pool our efforts now, we will have a greater chance of success in the future. NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT POINTS: - Joe Bleicher: 407-0531(2509 NCR 11) - Kirvin Knox: 484-4571 (2505 NCR 11) - Nick Yobbagy: 221-1610 (2005 Richard's Lake Road)