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40. Question: Is $400,000 the average price of the residential units?
Answer: That is yet to be determined.
41. Comment: These buildings will be too tall in the neighborhood context,
especially being right on the road.
Response: We will be doing a massing model of this entire area,
showing the relativity of these buildings to others.
42. Comment: The construction phase of this development will be
overwhelming, especially since I live right across the street.
43. Question: Where do you go from here? Will you take these comments
and possibly incorporate them into your final design? Is this
design etched in stone?
Answer: We will have to regroup and discuss this.
44. Question: The genre of the neighborhood is very contemporary, both
the residential and office uses. Your proposed buildings look
very traditional and massive. How can you make them more
compatible with the surrounding development?
Answer: We can and will look into this.
45. Question: How can you enhance these 1-story, 1,600 - 1,800 square
foot residential units to command your stated prices?
Answer: The nature of the target market for this development wants
more than just square footage. Quality counts here.
46. Comment: Most people here think that the proposed building heights
are the major concern.
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32. Comment: The proposed 70 residential units will not support the
proposed retail, personal service, and convenience store
uses.
Response: We have never said that the commercial uses would service
only the residents of this development.
33. Comment: I am concerned about the service vehicles that will be
generated here with the commercial uses.
34. Comment: I would like to see in writing just what the sizes of the
commercial uses will be and what kind of convenience store
could occur here.
35. Question: Will the density, open space, and amenities be similar to
surrounding developments?
Answer: The density will be similar to other multi -family residential
developments in the area.
36. Question: What kind of lighting is proposed with this development?
Answer: The lighting will be subdued, low intensive, down -directional,
and shielded.
37. Comment: There are a lot of things that could be worse than these
proposed uses for this site. The residential and supporting
services are good. I am most concerned about the proposed
heights of the buildings and the effects on my "bella vistas".
38. Question: This project could be stair -stepped back, but would you lose
parking in the process?
Answer: Not necessarily. The Marriott Hotel is much larger in mass
and scale than these buildings will be.
39. Comment: The planners impose the infill, walkable community theory
on us. Compare this proposed development to the Harmony
Center, where King Soopers and Home Depot are. That is a
premier vehicle -oriented development. It is not at all
walkable. This proposed development is a classic downtown,
new urban development.
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24. Question: Would you consider a westbound, right -turn lane onto
Stanford Road?
Answer: Utilities in the area could make that very difficult.
25. Comment: Getting in and out of Cove Island is already very difficult and
dangerous.
26. Question: Does your access point on Stanford Road line up with the
access point to the office building to the west?
Answer: The northbound right -in, southbound left -in access does line
up with that access to the west.
27. Question: Who makes the final decision about the size and length of
the proposed island (center median) in East Horsetooth
Road?
Answer: The City will make that decision.
28. Question: Will there be a westbound, left -turn lane into Cove Island?
Answer: Yes, there will be.
29. Question: Can the access into Cove Island be improved?
Answer: That has not, to date, been looked at.
30. Comment: Has there been any study done by an air quality person
because of the density and intensity of this proposed
project?
Answer: No, a study has not been done and the City probably will not
require that a study be done.
31. Comment: The potential half million dollar residential units will draw
low intensive, high end retail uses.
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17. Comment: The properties surrounding the mall were not designed to b
pedestrian -oriented uses. This proposed project is a bad fit
here. It fits in downtown Fort Collins.
18. Question: Can the buildings be stair -stepped back or moved back from
the street?
Answer: Stair -stepping is a possibility; however, the City Code
regulates how far from the street a building can be placed.
19. Question: Could the proposed food service use include something like a
Taco Bell Express?
Answer: No, that would not be permitted and we will certainly
exclude this type of use.
20. Question: As an interested party I think this concept is good. Why
could you not have 1,100 - 1,200 square foot residential
units?
Answer: The larger, more expensive units will help pay for the site
amenities, such as the underground parking.
21. Question: Have you looked at reducing the number of residential units
and eliminating the underground parking garage?
Answer: No, not really. That is not the product type that the
developers want to do.
22. Question: Have you looked at reducing the heights of the buildings?
Answer: We think that the varied heights and stair -stepped design of
the buildings provides a better project, visually.
23. Question: Will the proposed widening of East Horsetooth Road be to
the north, thereby not affecting our properties on the south
side?
Answer: Yes, that is the case.
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9. Question: Was this property not zoned T - Transition as a buffer
between residential and commercial uses?
Answer: No, the T - Transition Zoning District is a "holding zone" for
properties that, when annexed into the City, are put into
that District until more is known about what type of
development wants to occur. Development cannot occur in
the T - Transition District.
10. Comment: This project feels like a high intensive, downtown urban
project that is out of place in this location. It is way too
massive and dense.
11. Comment: The mixed -use proposed here will generate more traffic than
72 multi -family dwelling units that might go here.
12. Comment: We live at the east end of Cove Island and this project will
have a dramatic impact, visually, from our home. We will be
looking at traffic going in and out of the development.
Response: There could be advantages to a well -designed project here
versus a large parking lot for multi -family residences.
13. Question: Ballpark wise, what will be the cost of these units?
Answer: At a minimum, probably about $250,000.
14. Question: Do you have people already interested in these units?
Answer: Yes, we do. These units could be $400,000 and up. Some of
the people interested now live in single family homes in the
Landings.
15. Question: Are you taking into consideration the large amount of traffic
in the area and the associated noise as they impact the
residences?
Answer: Yes, and to some degree that is part of the chosen lifestyle
living here.
16. Comment: An alternative would be to put in 3-story buildings with only
office space as the commercial use. No retail would be
allowed.
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Question: Could you be more specific about what the small general
store will look like?
Answer: It will be a small store, maybe with a liquor license, but will
not have or sell gas for automobiles.
Question: Then it may be like a convenience store?
Answer: Yes, something like that.
Question: How many vehicles will this development generate on a daily
basis?
Answer: The peak hours are what matters. In the short term there
would be about 1 - 1.5% of what traffic is on East
Horsetooth Road now, and about 8 - 10% of what traffic is
on Stanford Road now. This mixed -use project will encourage
live 8v work situations here, on the site.
6. Question: What consideration have you given to the Cove Island
residents, from a traffic standpoint, on East Horsetooth
Road?
Answer: There is not much that this development, or any
development on this property, can do to make a left turn out
of Cove Island any better.
7. Question: Will people be able to make a left turn (eastbound) out of this
development onto East Horsetooth Road?
Answer: No, that access will be right-in/right-out only. A center
median in East Horsetooth Road will assure this.
8. Question: This property is currently zoned T- Transition. Are you
asking for LMN - Low Density Mixed -Use Neighborhood?.
Answer: No, we are asking for MMN - Medium Density Mixed -Use
Neighborhood.
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Community Planning and Environmental _rvices
Current Planning
City of Fort Collins
PROJECT:
DATE:
APPLICANT:
CONSULTANT:
NEIGHBORHOOD INFORMATION MEETING
Bella Vista
November 14, 2001
Chuck McNeal & Javier Martinez
Cityscape Urban Design
c/o Eldon Ward
CITY PLANNER: Steve Olt_ o
The developers are proposing a new mixed -use residential, office, and retail
project (Bella Vista) on a property at the northeast corner of East Horsetooth
Road and Stanford Road. The project could consist of 4 buildings (potentially 5
or 6 stories high) and associated parking. The site is presently a vacant piece of
land approximately 3 acres in size. The Aspen Leaf Apartments are adjacent to
the north and east of this site. A "vicinity map" identifying and locating the
proposed project site is attached. The property is in the T — Transition Zoning
District. Development on this site will require a rezoning of the property.
................. QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS, RESPONSES .................
1. Question: What is the total square footage of commercial uses in the
development?
Answer: There will be about 22,000 square feet of non-residential
uses, about 7,500 square feet of this being retail.
2. Question: What percentage of the overall square footage of the project
would the commercial uses represent?
Answer: About 16%.
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