HomeMy WebLinkAboutMAPLE HILL, PHASE ONE - PDP - 29-00A - CORRESPONDENCE - OTHER JURISDICTIONS (3)Ted Shepard
December 18, 2002
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Another general issue we would like to address with the City is the maintenance of roads in this area. With all the
development and annexation that has occurred there are County subdivisions on the west side of LCR 11 that are
almost surrounded by the City limits. There is even one instance that I'm aware of that where a new City
development shares an existing County subdivision road (Richard's Lake Rd). We would like to meet with the
City to discuss the overall maintenance of roads in this area.
The final issue that we would like to address with the City is the process for coordination and information sharing
on issues like this that affect existing County roads and residents. When proposed development improvements
involve major modifications to a mainline County Road and affect existing County residents, we would expect to
be informed by City staff of these matters. We find it rather disconcerting to find out about these situations via
calls from residents.
Thank you for the opportunity to review and comment on the plans. If you have any questions or need additional
information you can reach me at 498-5730.
Sincerely,
Rusty McDaniel, P.E.
Assistant County Engineer
cc: Mark Peterson, Larimer County Engineer
Dale Miller, Larimer County Road & Bridge Director
Dave Stringer, City of Fort Collins Engineering Department
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Ted Shepard DEC 2,0 2002
City of Fort Collins Current Planning Department CURRENT PLANNING
281 N. College Ave.
Fort Collins, CO 80522
RE: Project #29-OOA Maple Hill PDP — Latimer County Road 11 proposed improvements
Dear Ted,
We have reviewed the portion of the plan set for the above referenced project that pertains to proposed changes to
Larimer County Road (LCR) 11 between Country Club Road (LCR 50E) and Richard's Lake Rd (LCR 52) that
was sent to our office on December 11, 2002. From what we have learned of the proposed improvements, we are
very concerned about the maintenance of the residual portion of LCR 11. There are several important questions
that need to be addressed prior to the approval of the project.
The County residents that live on the west side of LCR 11 have contacted us with concerns about what will
happen to their access once the improvements are made, and more specifically, who will maintain the access.
According to the plans, and from talking with Dave Stringer, it is my understanding that the plan is to remove all
but 20 feet of the existing LCR 11. The remaining 20 feet of pavement will act as a "frontage road" for the
residents. The frontage road will connect to the new LCR 11 by means of two accesses. One access is
approximately 200 feet north of Country Club Rd and the other access is approximately 200 feet south of
Richard's Lake Rd. The creation of a frontage road like this that may have to be maintained by the County and
located adjacent to an urban arterial roadway (maintained by the City), is not consistent with the vision of the
growth management area. Since these residents currently enjoy access from a publicly maintained road, the City
will need to accept responsibility for maintaining this roadway following the changes. Maintenance should not
be the responsibility of either the County or the residents adjacent to the roadway.
I could find very little information on the plans that show how the connections between the proposed frontage
road and the new LCR 11 alignment will be constructed. It appears from the cross sections at station 28+00 and
50+50, which are the closest stations to the two connections shown, that there is 3 to 4 feet in vertical difference
between the existing LCR 1 I profile and the proposed LCR 11 profile. It also appears that there is only about 25
feet horizontally from the easterly edge of the proposed frontage road to the flowline of the new LCR 11
alignment. If this is accurate, the grades from the existing road to the new road are going to be between 12% and
15%, which is too steep for any access to a public road, especially an arterial.
It is my understanding from talking with Dave Stringer that the full improvements that are shown on these plans
are not scheduled but that some interim improvements are planned for the 2003 construction season. We would
be interested in seeing the plans for the interim improvements. I received a phone call from a resident who is
concerned that the interim improvements may only focus on the road itself and not do anything to address
drainage issues and might possibly cause more drainage problems.
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