HomeMy WebLinkAboutTHORELL PARK SUBDIVISION (FORMERLY JOHNSTON ANNEXATION) - PDP ..... SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING - PDP160032 - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING• Don't want higher densities in the area — don't want it to feel like a big city.
• Sign for the Crowne on Timberline is confusing — directs people into Linden Park instead —
results in cut -through traffic — Rosen should be used instead.
• Linden Park — difficulty with left turns — want to see a light; issue is greatest when school is
starting letting out.
• if the goal is affordable housing, we need more single family affordable housing.
• Pressure from so many development projects in the area, impact to character of the community.
• Traffic issues at Trilby and Timberline, getting out of Linden Park onto Timberline; concerned
that it could be 5 more years before there's a light at Zephyr.
• Concerned that L-M-N is not actually low density.
allows ?/199 additional homes (included cars) surrounding a small community that has no
western/southern/northern exit. I object to low density zoning of new development because of
the new Crown Apartments (aka "low density"). Traffic now exists at Fossil Creek Parkway and
Crown isn't at full capacity. Timberline is not wide enough to support this growth —even if
going/approved to 4 lanes. More residents, more students, and more congestion near schools
and more crime! Concerns with more "low density (-199) sounds good ("low") but not at 199. 1
am in favor of development to of communities with single family homes NOT multi -family
condo/apartments. Going from one community of 190 to +2 and potentially more with
annexation (across Bacon Elementary) means more a pa rtme nts/co ndo/town homes at -199
equals a mess. The community planning east of Linden Park is spacious and well -planned. These
new low -density are coming a lot into small area/major mess.
• Given the severely limited ingress/egress to this entire development area, the City needs to
impose lower building density criteria. To approve this project is not only ill-advised; I think it is
outright irresponsible. Even a ??? lane Timberline will have gridlock at rush hour. Want some
open space and natural areas in this part of the city.
• The proposed density of this project is totally unrealistic, given the constraints of entrance/exit
points along Timberline as well as the existing high -density housing. The resulting congestion
would be a nightmare for residents and general traffic as well.
Post -it notes:
• Traffic - until we can get a light, can we get a couple of police officers to help with traffic flow?
- 7:30 - 9:00 AM and - 4:00 - 6:30 PM are the worst times.
• School busses can't get out of neighborhood on time sometimes.
• Are there requirements for who is allowed to work on construction sites? Concerned about
crime, felons, etc.
• Will parking overflow into neighborhoods to the south? Traffic control and safety in
neighborhood.
• Impacts to home values - solar access and shading for properties to the south.
• Owls, eagles, hawks, coyotes, turtles, frogs, snakes, foxes, herons, pelicans - survey for ???? ?
• Where will kids go to school? Bacon doesn't have capacity?
• Concerned -where is the water going to go? Naturally there, where does drainage go? How
high is the water table?
• Move park to west side to create more of a buffer - opportunity for trail connection, preferred
by neighbors.
• Concerns that notification letters not going to an accurate list - process seems open to
disruption - City should be creating APO lists, not developers.
• Paragon Point - concern about high density housing across from them - no buffer for sound,
setbacks, landscaping, views, mitigate density.
0 Concern - no transit and busses serving this area.
Thorell Park (formerly Johnston Townhomes)
Neighborhood Meeting Notes from 12/14/16
Flip Chart notes —Questions, Concerns, and Comments:
• Density too high
• Traffic in and out of development onto Timberline
• Can't make left at rush hour onto Timberline
• Cut -through traffic (through Linden)
• 10-15 minutes to turn left (onto Timberline)
• Beachmont --> headlights
• Can Beachmont be involved?
• No construction traffic through Linden Park
• Wildlife impact
• Accidents? No, kill check
• Delay monitoring? 4 Ongoing
• Current los --> F at peak hours
• Timberline 4lanes? Funded 2019
• 4 lanes would create more gaps
• Zephyr signal --> would enable gaps for better left at Linden Park
Comment Cards:
• We did not get the announcement for the July meeting. We would have attended to show our
concerns. We do NOT want this going in!!!
• Terrible location for such high density. Traffic will be impossible. Should bring number of units to
the LOW end of L-M-N. Already very high density right next to it.
• Density WAY to high. Already high apartment buildings have been built that are terrible!!
Neighborhood being destroyed!!
• How is traffic going to be controlled? What bout eagles and owls that live in trees on property?
School overcrowding. Decreasing property value.
• We live on Southridge ??? Boulevard in Paragon Point, a low density, rather nice neighborhood.
Our lot abuts the area to be developed. We are VERY concerned about a high density project
being built directly abutting our property, this is especially true as no provision have been made
for screening, buffering, or noise abatement. Impact on neighboring properties has not been
???? adverse in the current plan.
• As a resident in Linden Park, this development will add traffic, congestion within our community
and potential hazard to children at play (speeding). I object to the "low density' zoning that