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3. We remain concerned about adequate screening for the loading dock. Even with the
ramp -down condition, the trucks and activity associated with this area needs to be
effectively screened. The Rigden Farm mixed -use neighborhood is in close proximity
to the north.
Response: Screening will be looked at in depth at the time of the Minor Amendment
for the 3500 seat sanctuary
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4. The Legal Description on the Site Plan could simply read:
"Timberline Church P.U.D. A tract of land located in the West Half of Section 29,
Township 7 North, Range 68 West of the 61h Principal Meridian, City of Fort Collins,
County of Larimer, State of Colorado."
Response: Legal description has been simplified
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5. Since the architectural elevations for the new sanctuary are not finalized at this time,
please add the following note to the Site Plan:
"Prior to application for Building Permit for the Major Amendment Building Addition for
the 3,500 seat sanctuary, Timberline Church shall submit a Minor Amendment
addressing final architectural elevations in sufficient detail to demonstrate compliance
with all applicable sections of the Land Use Code, or its successor that are in place at
the time. Such submittal shall include, but not be limited to detailed elevations of all
exposed facades, three-dimensional illustrations that convey height and bulk,
descriptions and samples of exterior materials and colors, shadow analysis,
perspective views from adjacent property lines, and the like."
Response: Note has been added to the site plan (#22)
NOTED
6. Staff has scheduled the public hearing with the Planning and Zoning Board for June
21, 2007. Please feel free to submit revisions based on these comments at any time
prior to this hearing. You do not need to wait for post -hearing Final Compliance to re-
submit. Any re -submittal prior to public hearing will streamline the Final Compliance
review.
Be sure and return all of your redlined plans when you re -submit.
If you have any questions regarding these issues or any other issues related to this project,
please feel free to call me at (970) 221-6750.
Sincerely:
Ted Shepard
Chief Planner
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Please realign new proposed outlet pipe so that it is more in line with the channel, it now
comes out at a 90 degree angle, and could cause serious erosion along the channel bank.
Response: The alignment was changed so that the outlet into the channel is at an angle as
requested.
Topic: Water quality pond outlet details
Number: 68 NORTHERN Created: 4/24/2007
[4/24/07] Please provide an actual water quality outlet box detail with the proposed outlet
plates. The detail provided is an outdated one with the generic water quality plate detail,
rather than the actual ones.
Response: The main outlet detail was left on the sheets. A plate detail/trash screen detail
was added per your request.
Department: Stormwater-Water-Wastewater Issue Contact: Roger Buffington
Topic: Water/Wastewater
Number: 64 NORTHERN Created: 4/24/2007
[4/24/071 Revise the various notes on abandonment of water services to include the
removal of the curb stops.
Response: The notes on abandonment of services were modified per redlines to state that
the curb stops are also to be removed.
Comments from Current Planning:
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1. As you are aware, Tract A, Rigden Farm is expected to develop in the near future. An
illustrative site plan is attached for your information. The owners of Tract A, Rigden
Farm, Timberline Church and the City of Fort Collins all generally agree that, at some
point in the future, non -vehicular cross access between the two properties would
provide multi -modal convenience for customers, parishioners, employees and the
neighborhood. Since all parties agree that it would premature to construct cross
access at this particular point in time, please add the following note to the Site Plan:
"Timberline Church commits to work cooperatively with the owners or developers of
Tract A, Rigden Farm in order to facilitate bicycle and pedestrian access between the
two properties. Timberline Church acknowledges the mutual benefit of safe and
practical cross access with Tract A, Rigden Farm. Accordingly, Timberline Church
agrees to negotiate in good faith with owners or developers of Tract A, Rigden Farm in
order to establish an equitable cost -sharing agreement for future improvements. Such
agreement shall finalize the provision of any necessary easements or agreements for
future construction of any facilities (such as but not limited to walkways, ramps,
crosswalks, grading, landscaping, irrigation and the like) in order to implement
convenient and efficient travel for bicyclists and pedestrians between the two
properties."
Response: Note has been added to site plan (#21)
NOTED
2. Thank you for making the revisions to the Lighting Plan. Current Planning reinforces
the comment from Dana Leavitt, Environmental Planner, that nine perimeter light
fixtures be equipped with the house -side shield.
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Response: Silt fence was added around the proposed outlet pipe in the channel as
requested.
Topic: Grading Plans
Number: 66 NORTHERN Created: 4/24/2007
[4/24/07] Please call out pond spillway location and elevation on the grading plans. Please
provide erosion protection for the proposed spillway overflow structure downstream of the
spillway. Is the existing pedestrian path the top of the spillway? Did you check path
elevation?
Response: The original spillway that was designed by Sear -Brown had grouted riprap
covered by 6" of soil on the downsteam side of the spillway. The spillway was built-up
slightly from what was shown on the Sear -Brown planset (4923.30 — original design) to
4924.0. Riprap was added to the spillway to accommodate the change in elevation.
Department: Stormwater-Water-Wastewater Issue Contact: Roger Buffington
Topic: Landscape Plan
Number: 34 BHA Created: 3/13/2007
[4/24/07] Adjust tree locations to provide 10 foot minimum separation from all water mains.
[3/13/07] Show water/sewer mains and service lines. Adjust plantings to meet separation
requirements in Note 11 on Sheet 9 of Landscape Plan.
Response: Trees have been moved to meet minimum separation
Department: Stormwater-Water-Wastewater Issue Contact: Basil Hamdan
Topic: Landscape Plans
Number: 65 BHA Created: 4/24/2007
[4/24/07] Please specify how the disturbed area within the Foothills Channel where the pipe
outlet from the detention pond is being installed will be re -vegetated. Re -vegetation should
match existing seed mix for the channel.
Response: All disturbed areas within the foothills channel will be Re -vegetated using the
Natural Grassland Seed Mix per the Foothills Regional Channel Project. The seed mix has
been added to the plantlist and added to the plant notes (#21)
Topic: Phasing Plans
Number:61 NORTHERN Created: 4/24/2007
[4/24/07] Please label the current major amendment as Phase 1. Phase numbering should
be clarified so that it includes only those phases that are being approved by these plans.
Response: Labeling of the construction phasing was done per comment "Phasing Plans -
Number 69".
Topic: Storm Sewer Profiles
Number: 67 NORTHERN Created: 4/24/2007
[4/24/07] Please call out the ponding elevations in the parking lot on the storm line profiles.
Response: Ponding elevations have been added to the profiles.
Topic: Utility Plans
Number: 62 NORTHERN Created: 4/24/2007
[4/24/07) Please move storm manhole A2 for storm Line A north away from the Foothills
Channel, in order to minimize potential grading impacts on channel. As currently designed
the manhole is right at the edge of City property.
Response: The alignment was changed so that the manhole is equally spaced between the
property line and the curb and gutter.
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Response: The right hand turn lane has been removed from the plans per meeting with
owner, Eric Bracke (City of Fort Collins), and Northern Engineering on May 7`h
[3/14/07] A 15' utility easement is typically required behind the right-of-way. With the right
turn lane being done, a 15' easement can't be done behind the right-of-way. The utility
providers will need to okay this.
Number: 58 NORTHERN I MATT D Created: 4/23/2007
[4/23/07] The response letter indicated that the right turn lane into the site was removed
after discussion with the church and traffic engineer consultant. In talking with the Traffic
Engineer, he'd like a letter or information from the traffic engineer consultant as to why this
is no longer being provided.
Response: The right hand turn lane has been removed from the plans per meeting with
owner, Eric Bracke (City of Fort Collins), and Northern Engineering on May 7`h
Topic: Phasing Plans
Number: 69 NORTHERN Created: 4/24/2007
[4/24/07] Echoing Stormwater comments, please re -label the phasing plan as follows:
"Major Amendment Phase" is "Phase 1"
"Major Amendment Future Phase" is "Phase 2"
"Major amendment" should just be removed from any indication on the plan set. It is my
understanding that the existing building is intended to be Phase 1, this is problematic for the
City, as we'd be issuing Phase 2 and Phase 3 DCP's for "Timberline Church Expansion"
without a Phase 1.
Response: The phasing labels were corrected on the sheets per above.
Department: Stormwater-Water-Wastewater Issue Contact: Basil Harridan
Topic: Demolition Plans
Number: 60 NORTHERN Created: 4/24/2007
[4/24/07] Please indicate that the exiting outlet box and pipe in the existing pond is to be
protected in place.
Response: A note was added to the demolition sheet to protect the existing outlet structure
and associated pipe.
Topic: Easements
Number: 59 NORTHERN Created: 4/24/2007
[4/24/07] Will the existing and proposed drainage easements be vacated and dedicated by
separate document ? If so please provide deeds of dedication.
Response: Additional utility easements were added per discussion with Basil for the storm
lines that were running through various lots on site.
Topic: Erosion Control Plans
Number: 63 NORTHERN Created: 4/24/2007
[4/24/07] Please ad an erosion control schedule to the plan as well as the schedule.
The erosion schedule was moved from the detail sheet to the erosion control sheet.
Standard erosion control notes were added to the General Notes sheet, since there wasn't
enough room for them on the erosion sheet.
Please provide some silt fence protection around the outlet pipe that will be built out into the
Foothills Channel.
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amendment that shows this same information. I'd like to suggest a meeting with Northern,
myself, and Sheri Langenberger who is reviewing the minor amendment.
Response: Northern has included the minor amendment information for coordination
purposes. Due to overlap of on -site work (example being curb, gutter, and paving of parking
lot improvements) the information was left to minimize confusion. The phasing lines/clouds
within the major amendment and the note on cover sheet are intended to clarify that the
work designed with the minor amendment is to be approved with that process. We believe
the information within the minor amendment will give the design of the major amendment
context and better relate the two projects to each other.
[3/14/07] I'd like to see the minor amendment indications on the drawings to be "faded
back" so that it is evident that the information shown in not being approved. With the
assumption that the minor amendment will be approved prior to the major amendment,
please add a note at the time of mylars for the major amendment indicating the approval
date of the minor amendment.
Number: 36 NORTHERN / MATT D Created: 3/14/2007
[4/24/07] Carried over pending the City Traffic Engineer's okay in not constructing the right
turn lane.
Response: The right hand turn lane has been removed from the plans per meeting with
owner, Eric Bracke (City of Fort Collins), and Northern Engineering on May 7"
[3/14/071 The right turn lane off of Timberline Road appears to fall short of turn lane length
requirements. A variance request should be submitted addressing this. I don't foresee a
concern with its approval, but it should at least be submitted for evaluation. (Note: This
observation is based upon the present design submitted with a right turn lane that extends
along the CSU property.)
Number: 37 NORTHERN/ MATT D Created: 3/14/2007
[4/24/07] Carried over pending the City Traffic Engineer's okay in not constructing the right
turn lane.
Response: The right hand turn lane has been removed from the plans per meeting with
owner, Eric Bracke (City of Fort Collins), and Northern Engineering on May 7`h
[3/14/071 The construction of the right turn lane appears to have a substantive impact on
the CSU property. Sheet 13 of the construction plan set even shows a proposed contour
line cutting through one of the buildings and a 25% grade from the sidewalk to that building.
What is the plan for mitigating the impact to CSU? Will a building be removed? A letter of
intent is required from CSU prior to a hearing.
Number: 44 NORTHERN Created: 3/14/2007
14/24/07] Deeds of dedication were provided, which require a $250 Transportation
Development Review Fee for each deed. Note that Sheri Langenberger had requested the
emergency access easement as part of the minor amendment, which will likely be process
through the minor amendment instead of the major amendment.
Response: The emergency access easement has been processed with the Minor
Amendment drawings.
[3/14/07] Will the various easement and right-of-way dedications be done via plat or deed?
Number: 45 NORTHERN / MATT D Created: 3/14/2007
[4/24/07] Carried over pending the City Traffic Engineer's okay in not constructing the right
turn lane.
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Number: 40 NORTHERN / MATT D Created: 3/14/2007
[4/24/071 Carried over pending the City Traffic Engineer's okay in not constructing the right
turn lane.
Response: The right hand turn lane has been removed from the plans per meeting with
owner, Eric Bracke (City of Fort Collins), and Northern Engineering on May 71n
[3/14/071 Additional design information is needed for the right turn lane prior to a hearing.
What are existing flowline grades and spot elevations of the surrounding area? At the time
of final a flowline profile and cross sections will be needed.
Number: 41 NORTHERN / MATT D Created: 3/14/2007
[4/24/07] Carried over pending the City Traffic Engineer's okay in not constructing the right
turn lane. (Note that if the City's Traffic Engineer is okay with not constructing the right turn
lane, the plan set still reflects demo work occurring in this area.)
Response: The right hand turn lane has been removed from the plans per meeting with
owner, Eric Bracke (City of Fort Collins), and Northern Engineering on May 7cn
[3/14/07] What is the hatched out area along Timberline on the plan set, and is the median
being proposed for modification?
Number: 43 NORTHERN / MATT D Created: 3/14/2007
[4/24/07] Carried over pending the City Traffic Engineer's okay in not constructing the right
turn lane.
Response: The right hand turn lane has been removed from the plans per meeting with
owner, Eric Bracke (City of Fort Collins), and Northern Engineering on May 7cn
[3/14/071 Please show existing striping along Timberline in conjunction with the demo plan
to verify if patching limits are appropriate.
Number: 46 NORTHERN / MATT D Created: 3/14/2007
[4/24/07] Carried over pending the City Traffic Engineer's okay in not constructing the right
turn lane.
Response: The right hand turn lane has been removed from the plans per meeting with
owner, Eric Bracke (City of Fort Collins), and Northern Engineering on May 71n
[3/14/07] Please provide a striping plan sheet that shows the right turn lane in conjunction
with the existing lanes along Timberline.
Number: 50 NORTHERN / MATT D Created: 3/15/2007
[4/24/07] Carried over pending the City Traffic Engineer's okay in not constructing the right
turn lane.
Response: The right hand turn lane has been removed from the plans per meeting with
owner, Eric Bracke (City of Fort Collins), and Northern Engineering on May 71n.
[3/15/071 Please show existing Timberline Road (flowline curb and gutter, median, striping
(on the striping and demo plan) up to the northern boundary of the overall site.
Topic: General
Number: 35 NORTHERN Created: 3/14/2007
[4/24/07] The response from Northern indicated that the minor amendment information on
the construction plan set is to remain as the site contractor will be building off the plans. If
this is the case, why is there a minor amendment being approved prior to this major
amendment showing the exact information? It seems that the minor amendment should just
then be withdrawn if the contractor isn't intending to build off the revised sheets of the minor
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aSTAFF PROJECT REVIEW
City of Port Collins
BHA Design Date: 04/30/2007
Whitney Duvall
1608 Oakridge Dr
Fort Collins, CO 80525
Staff has reviewed your submittal for TIMBERLINE CHURCH EXPANSION MAJOR
AMENDMENT, and we offer the following comments:
ISSUES:
Department: Current Planning Issue Contact: Dana Leavitt
Topic: General
Number:9 = Created:3/6/2007
[4/23/07] Photometric Plan provided. Use house -side shields on fixtures adjacent to
Foothills Channel.
[3/6/07] Photometric Plan is required.
Response: Note has been added to Photometric Plan to add house -side shields on
specified lights along the Foothills Channel
Topic: Utility Plans
Number: 26 NORTHERN Created: 3/7/2007
[4/24/071 Show top of embankment of existing conditions also, otherwise ok. Show LOD on
all plan sets with in the Utility Plans.
Response: The LOD line was added to the below mentioned sheets. There is some
overlap of the phasing lines and the LOD. The channel flowline and top of embankment line
is shown on the Overall Existing Conditions sheet.
[3/7/07] The edge of the Foothills Channel and the top of embankment needs to be located
on the Existing Conditions Plan, the Demolition Plan sheets, the Horizontal Control Plan
sheets, the Grading Plan sheets and the Overlot Grading Plan sheets. The Limits of
Development (LOD), once established, shall be show on all of the plans referenced above.
Department: Engineering Issue Contact: Marc Virata
Topic: Construction Plan
Number: 38 NORTHERN / MATT D Created: 3/14/2007
[4/24/07] Carried over pending the City Traffic Engineer's okay in not constructing the right
turn lane.
Response: The right hand turn lane has been removed from the plans per meeting with
owner, Eric Bracke (City of Fort Collins), and Northern Engineering on May 7`n
[3/14/07] Please show additional existing contours on the CSU property in order to
ascertain how the right turn lane construction ties into the existing property.
Number: 39 NORTHERN / MATT D Created: 3/14/2007
[4/24/07] Carried over pending the City Traffic Engineer's okay in not constructing the right
turn lane.
Response: The right hand turn lane has been removed from the plans per meeting with
owner, Eric Bracke (City of Fort Collins), and Northern Engineering on May 71n.
[3/14/07] The sidewalk crossing the driveway along Timberline appears awkward. I'd like to
suggest keeping the sidewalk closer to Timberline to head straight across the driveway
rather than bring it closer to the site.
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