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Pine Tree normally 21 ft. from ditch edge.
Ditch backup during rains, not Sept. floods,
but taken during; ordinary rain last June:
Tree normally 23 ft. from edge of ditch
Covered sprinkler heads midstream
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Ordinary rains fill up ditch quickly running fast like a river stream. Water seepage otherwise
builds up slime at bottom of ditch breading mosquitos. Has to be hand shoveled to clear. Last
time a small plow tractor was used, but curve of concrete did not allow to clear well.
Concern is that land which now absorbs water, after Morningstar facility is built, will build up more
water due to additional concrete or asphalt runoff into the ditch. Raising land level, now 2ft. higher
other side of ditch, to new foundation level will also add more quick drainage into ditch during rains.
Once water crosses raised level of these two pictured trees, land slopes down toward garden level
condo units. Twice D-18 unit needed sandbags against outer walls and patio door during longer rains.
Submitted: Julie Charlson, Collindale Association Board Member (970) 646-0118
it. With condominiums and town homes accepting pets, many residents use area now for a dog park
and would like that added for east side of town. Realtors will confirm a shortage of patio homes for
downsizing slightly younger seniors. This would fit better into the community and Bartran could then
follow-through to build himself. The one story dental office across from the Shell Station is another
suggestion with less resistance as traffic limited with medical or other appointments and offices could
share front parking.
Please enter this for use in City development review meetings and public hearing for final plan
review. Other residents have been told to submit their concerns individually, but many contributed to
this as missed neighborhood meeting due to Bronco game or other commitments. Some don't know
the process or believe they can still make a difference (something the City can work on). Let me
know if renters are able to reply. Have heard some say they would just move when construction
started.
Thank you,
Julie Charlson
Collindale resident and Collindale Association Board member
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Jason Holland
From:
Julie Charlson <j.charlson @ comcast. net>
Sent:
Monday, October 28, 2013 1:26 PM
To:
Jason Holland
Subject:
#63 Morningstar Proposal PDP130024
Attachments:
Collindale Condos East Ditch.pdf
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Jason Holland, City Planner:
More negative comments have occurred from residents in and around Collindale Condominiums
concerning the proposed development for field at Lochwood and Horsetooth indicating preference for
a different solution:
1. Not convinced that more water would not enter the ditch and then backup toward condos and
add to detention pond at the north end. Couldn't find detail drawing on-line showing side view of
retaining walls and elevation of grade back to them. Unless it is flat at the easement, equal height
on both sides of ditch, more will flow in due to slope as well as add to overall height making 2 3/4
stories? Reason rain water backs up now is because east side is currently about 2 ft. higher than the
west side. I am attaching file presented at neighborhood meeting if ditch is not deepened and future
water crosses tree line flowing back into ground level condominium units.
2. Morningstar said did not want their residents exposed to mosquito problem either, but did not
commit to treating the area for insects. There is already City debate on what kind of treatment should
be used with residents also concerned about pets. Does Faith Property management know
Morningstar replied that monthly ditch maintenance would be a shared expense?
3. Basically the facility is also a large restaurant serving three meals a day to about 100 with
resident units and staff. If couples in rooms could be more and not sure if 20 staff includes those
coming in to serve meals which would probably be college students. Has been mentioned that when
people in 80's have accepted assisted living or admitted into memory care they are not as active as
indicated and leave much uneaten food. Disposable diapers are needed and add to the trash
needs. Once a week pickup and trash location also east of ditch behind condos is not desirable.
4. More prefer this kind of facility further away from dense residential community in the center of
town. Resale or rental value could be lowered and additional traffic impact children walking to the
school or pool in the summer. Additional cars turning right from Lockwood onto Harmony when clear,
would take away opening to turn left from Rolling Green onto Horsetooth before next string of
approaching cars from lights at Lemay. Though attractive from streetscape on Lochwood, current
surrounding residents would be looking at fence and service road behind taller structure due
to elevated land or at the parking lot with lights.
5. There is less need for this type of large facility now, especially if not accept Medicaid as
payment later from resident -patients. Rents are usually very high quickly depleting savings. The City
problem is where people can go when live longer than their resources hold out. Facilities that accept
or will later convert to Medicaid payment is the real need. There are currently 7 memory care
facilities in Fort Collins with openings for Alzheimer's patients. Another 5 are assisted living without
memory care. Other independent living facilities such as Parkwood Estates, Worthington or Winslow,
and Rigden Farms promote for -life residence bringing in outside services. Agencies have also
emerged for Aging in Place for many desiring to remain in their home here. Morningstar did not
respond that they had certified nursing staff included for final stage of life medical needs or
emergencies there.
6. Comments included that Bartran promised open land would not be developed due to flood
plain or to be used for a community center for his three multifamily areas around
from the Shell Station is another suggestion with less resistance as traffic limited with
medical or other appointments. and offices could share front parking.
Again, this letter will go to the Board for their consideration. I have heard comment that many years ago Bartran had
thought this would be part of a private neighborhood amenity area, but the parcel is unplatted and has never been part
of a City development plan, I'm not sure what the different uses are that have been proposed over the years after
Bartran.
Please enter this for use in City development review meetings and public hearing for final plan
review. Other residents have been told to submit their concerns individually, but many contributed to
this as missed neighborhood meeting due to Bronco game or other commitments. Some don't know
the process or believe they can still make a difference (something the City can work on). Let me
know if renters are able to reply. Have heard some say they would just move when construction
started.
Thank you,
Julie Charlson
Collindale resident and Coll indale �ciation Board member
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There's not a code requirement that private properties spray for mosquitos but detention ponds are required to be
designed so that they drain within 72 hours. The City only has the west nile policy program, more information is at
http://www.fcgov.com/westnile/ I'm not sure what the status is with Faith Property, I think this would be a shared
expense in the sense that Morningstar will be maintaining their drainage into the drain pan.
3. Basically the facility is also a large restaurant serving three meals a day to about 100 with
resident units and staff. If couples in rooms could be more and not sure if 20 staff includes
those coming in to serve meals which would probably be college students. Has
been mentioned that when people in 80's have accepted assisted living or admitted into
memory care they are not as active as indicated and leave much uneaten food. Disposable
diapers are needed and add to the trash needs. Once a week pickup and trash location also
east of ditch behind condos is not desirable.
Yes, I think it would be helpful to get information from Morningstar on how frequently they will need trash pickup. I've
ask them to answer this and will get that answer for you.
4. More prefer this kind of facility further away from dense residential community in the center of
town. Resale or rental value could be lowered and additional traffic impact children walking
to the school or pool in the summer. Additional cars turning right from Lockwood onto
Harmony when clear, would take away opening to turn left from Rolling Green onto
Horsetooth before next string of approaching cars from lights at Lemay. Though attractive
from streetscape on Lochwood, current surrounding residents would be looking at fence
and service road behind taller structure due to elevated land or at the parking lot with lights.
I can give you an update that we asked the applicant to address the neighborhood concerns from the last meeting about
adding more landscaping and better wall materials to enhance the west area. I'll print this letter for the P&Z so that
they can have your inputs---
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5. There is less need for this type of large facility now, especially if not accept Medicaid as
payment later from resident -patients. Rents are usually very high quickly depleting
savings. The City problem is where people can go when live longer than their resources
hold out. Facilities that accept or will later convert to Medicaid payment is the real
need. There are currently 7 memory care facilities'_in Fort Collins with openings for
Alzheimer's patients. Another 5 are assisted living without memory care. Other independent
living facilities such as Parkwood Estates, Worthington or Winslow, and Rigden Farms
promote for -life residence bringing in outside services. Agencies have also emerged for
Aging in Place for many desiring to remain in their home here. Morningstar did not respond
that they had certified nursing staff included for final stage of life medical needs or
emergencies there.
Thanks for the thoughts on this, I forwarded this and perhaps the applicant may be able to answer the nursing
comment. Again, this letter will go to the Board for their consideration.
6. Comments included that Bartran promised open land would not be developed due to flood
plain or to be used for a community center for his three multifamily areas around
it. With condominiums and town homes accepting pets, many residents use area now for a
dog park and would like that added for east side of town. Realtors will confirm a shortage of
patio homes for downsizing slightly younger seniors. This would fit better into the community
and Bartran could then follow-through to build himself. The one story dental office across
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face the nice side to the west. They are also putting a cedar timber trellis over the top of the trash enclosure, and I
asked that the hours of operation be restricted.
Have a good weekend!
Thanks,
Jason
Jason Holland, PLA I City Planner
City of Fort Collins
281 North College Avenue
Fort Collins, CO 80522
970.224.6126
0holland(a)fcgov.com
From: Julie Charlson [mailto:j.charlson@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 1:26 PM
To: Jason Holland
Subject: #63 Morningstar Proposal PDP130024 T
Jason Holland, City Planner:
More negative comments have occurred from residents in and around Collindale Condominiums
concerning the proposed development for field at Lochwood and Horsetooth indicating preference for
a different solution:
1. Not convinced that more water would not enter the ditch and then backup toward condos and
add to detention pond at the north end. Couldn't find detail drawing on-line showing side
view of retaining walls andT%vation of grade back to them. Unless it is flat at the easement,
-u 4 equal height on both sidesiotditch, more will flow in due to slope as well as add to overall
height making 2 3/4 stories? Reason rain water backs up now is because east side
is currently about 2 ft. higher than the west side. I am attaching file presented at
neighborhood meeting if ditch is not deepened and future water crosses tree line flowing
back into ground level condominium units. ..�_.�..
Drainage from the site currently goes into the ditch and with the City requirements for this project, water will fill on -site
storm water detention ponds and be temporarily detained rather than going into the ditch immediately. Storm water
detention ponds are designed in a way so that water is released at a slow rate into the ditch from the east, without any
more frequency than with what is happening in current conditions with the grass field. This scenario is required by City
Stormwater standards. It looks like Collindale is faced with several issues, and I know this must be frustrating. Very
high ground water, frequent flows from Warren Lake during certain times of the year, and that some of the channels in
Collindale flow into the bottom of the main channel, and not the top, and this allows water to back up in the Collindale
swales. It might make sense for you to meet with me and someone in the City stormwater department at Collindale to
discuss the issues the HOA is dealing with. Maybe we could suggest some improvements that could be made to
Collindale so that water doesn't back up.
2. Morningstar said did not want their residents exposed to mosquito problem either, but did not
commit to treating the area for insects. There is already City debate on what kind of
treatment should be used with residents also concerned about pets. Does Faith Property -
management know Morningstar replied that monthly ditch maintenance would be a shared
expense?
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Jason Holland
From: Julie Charlson <j.charlson@comcast. net>
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 7:38 PM
To: Jason Holland
Subject: Re: #63 Morningstar: Nov. 14th meeting and incoming questions
Jason,
Appears Morningstar is under the Consent Agenda "with no known opposition or concern"which is not
accurate even from much smaller 2nd neighborhood meeting with minimal people due to conflict schedule with Bronco
game. Input summary submitted came from residents comments during October and Association meeting only takes
place once a month. If this is final Planning and Zoning Board Meeting less than 2 months from neighborhood meeting
Sept. 23, that seems to be pushed through much faster than process indicated at first neighborhood meeting.
Assuming that your meeting suggestion of trellis top to dumpsters satisfied the odor and raccoon issues brought up did
not really remove concern. Same with Morningstar saying they were also concerned about mosquitoes without any how
to's for maintenance and insect control or that the service street gutter would compensate if still sloping land in front of
retaining wall. Just because no one -in audience this time boldly said "how do we stop this building", did their brief
answers to questions mean it removed issues or that small attendance represented 3 surrounding communities.
On-line plan drawing, different from side detail shown at meeting, still does not state the incline from retaining wall to
ditch. Their drawing also shows slant down from condo property line to ditch as equal on their side, but we know it is
flatter on condo side and then slopes wrong way past new small tree back into D building along with hollowed area closer
to.pine trees doing the same. As no way to raise existing condo building foundation it contributes to their problem if ditch
remains as is.
The LUC, p. 174 states where Bartran and his selling agents got the community center use for this land - "A
neighborhood center provides a focal point" Appears from Agenda that Morningstar is also requesting larger footprint
area than zoned for which would concern residents; 43,000 as compared to 20,000,sq. ft„= more like what community
center (or church cited) would be. Modification for this project no longer seems to address the following stipulation: the
proposed project would substantially address an important community need specifically and expres y defined and
described in the city's Comprehensive Plan
Thank you for your time fog replies and submission of email letter, along with other peoples comments to the P&Z,
which should remove Morningstar from Consent lisf or°i°dissMssion. I still want to know total'staff count including food
prep/service people? People still asking further questions - what rent will be, interior floor plan size for individual living
units, and if for one or two residents each? Still don't know if renters can reply or have to inform and have their landlords
give input?
Julie Charlson
From: "Jason Holland" <J Holland @fcgov. com >
To: "Julie Charlson" <j. charlson@comcast. net>
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 5:22:11 PM
Subject: RE: #63 Morningstar Proposal PDP130024
Ass
Hi Julie, sorry for needing some time to get back to you. Things have been pretty hectic around here. I tried to answer
your questions below as best as I can. Let me know if you'd like to meet at the site to look at the Swale. The project is
going to the by the Planning and Zoning Board on November 14th and I'll print your letter for the Board so that your
comments can be considered as part of the decision. The agenda plans can be downloaded here:
http://www.fcgov.com/cityclerk/planning-zoning.php
The Morningstar plans start on page 172, and there's a bookmark tab on the side if you want to use that to get to the
plans faster, or just type 172 in the page box.
After the second neighborhood meeting, staff was able to get improvements to the proposal with your comments and
suggestions. They did agree to a really nice wall material and layered landscaping up and down the terraces along the
wall, and more evergreen trees along the site. They also designed a wood fence with boxed trim panels and I had them
• Hi Christine, thanks for sending me this letter. The project is going to the by the Planning and Zoning Board on
November 14th and I'll print your letter for the Board so that your comments can be considered as part of the
decision. The agenda plans can be downloaded here: http://www.fcgov.com/cityclerk/planning-zoning.php
The Morningstar plans start on page 172, and there's a bookmark tab on the side if you want to use that to get to the
plans faster, or just type 172 in the page box.
After the second neighborhood meeting, staff was able to get additional improvements to the proposal. They did
commit to a really nice wall material and layered landscaping up and down the terraces along the wall, and more
evergreen trees along the site. I had them upgrade the architecture with more stone. They also designed a wood fence
with boxed trim panels and I had them face the nice side to the west. They are also putting a cedar timber trellis over
the top of the trash enclosure, and I asked that the hours of operation be restricted. It may be that the trellis over the
enclosure is not necessary and the fence would be enough to obscure the sightlines, but I talked them into doing it
anyway, just to be sure. Let me know what you think, have a good weekend.
Thanks,
Jason
Jason Holland, PLA I City Planner
City of Fort Collins
281 North College Avenue
Fort Collins, CO 80522
970.224.6126
iholland(a)fcgov.com
From: Christine Cates [mailto:TinkCltheiack.us]
Sent:.Wednesday,.October. 30,.2013 5:19 PM
To: Jason Holland
Subject: Project #PDP130024 Sigm#63 --- -- - - - _.Was"O.c,
Dear Mr. Jason Holland,
I am writing to you in regards to the project development plan for the area on the northwest corner of East
Horsetooth Road and Lochwood Drive. I am concerned about the suggested placement for the trash and recycle
receptacles. The current placement is quite close-fo the apartments located on Rolling Green Drive; specifically
the apartments located in the D building. The upper apartments (1322 and D23) will have a direct view of the
receptacles, while the second story apartments (1320 and D21) will be close enough to be in danger of the
potential smells that are accompanied with the receptacles. I believe there to be more aesthetic and situationally
appropriate locations that would not directly affect the occupants.
Thank you for your time and attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Christine Cates
2500 Rolling Green Drive #D22
Fort Collins, CO 80525
(719) 221-3181
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Jason Holland
From:
Christine Cates <Tink@thejack.us>
Sent:
Monday, November 04, 2013 10:56 AM
To:
Jason Holland
Subject:
Re: Project #PDP130024 Sign #63
Follow Up Flag:
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Good Morning Jason.
I apologize for not getting back to you sooner. I had plans over the weekend and just now received your emails.
I am breathing easier knowing that you are concerned about the area around the development. I will review the
_ plans once I am back home and able to give more attention to them. However your description sounds like it
should sufficiently hide the receptacles from view. I would encourage the trellis to be used as well, one can
never be too careful.
My only other concern is the potential smells that come from the receptacles. The D Building is downwind from
the suggested site. You can encourage others to keep the lids closed, but the actuality of it happening, even for a
business, is another matter entirely.
I will review the plans -you have linked -Thank you for your time. It is appreciated very much.
-Christine-
On Nov 4, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Jason Holland <JHolland(a,fcgov.com> wrote:
I wanted to check in and see if I need to help more with getting youF concerns addressed. Maybe I can call you today
and we can talk more, and then I can call the Morningstar guys and give them some ideas to explore. I'm here to help
and I'd like to facilitate the best outcome possible with your input.
Thanks,
Jason
Jason Holland, PLA I City Planner
City of Fort Collins
281 North College Avenue
Fort Colliflgwt R622
970.224.6126
iholland(cDfcgov.com
From: Jason Holland
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 6:34 PM
To: 'Christine Cates'
Subject: RE: Project #PDP130024 Sign #63
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November 1, 2013
City of Fort Collins
Attn: Mr. Jason Holland
City Planner
Re: #63 Morningstar Proposal PDP 130024
Dear Mr. Holland,
As the current owner of the 4.45 acres at the NWC of E. Horsetooth Road and Lochwood
Road in Fort Collins, I would like to express my support for the proposed MorningStar
Senior Living development.
My father played an active role in the development of the_Collindale area of Fort Collins
and this particular site was part of his overall vision for the area. His vision was to
create a true "community" where residents of all ages could thrive together, and where
residents could live their whole life —from childhood through old age. This diversity in
age was an important factor in the overall site development plan.
He never intended for this site to be left as open space and always anticipated
developing this site with a use that had a higher amount of density. Because of the City
Park to the south of the Collindale area, along with the Collindale Golf Course to the
south, he felt these provided an abundant amount of open space for the people who
would live in this area.
I was also fortunate to work alongside my father in business beginning in 1985. The
plans for developing this property were always consistent and transparent to any
existing and future customers, and this piece in particular was always planned to be a
higher density area of the project. I believe the MorningStar Project aligns well with
his vision for the area. I know he would be very pleased with this project and I fully
encourage the development plan and proposed use.
Please feel free to contact me at 719-377-0710 with any questions.
Sincerely,
LeeAnn Mill
General Partner
Bartran and Company Partners, LLLP
Jason Holland
Subject: FW: #63 Morningstar: Nov. 14th meeting and incoming questions
From: Julie Charlson[mailto:j.charlson(alcomcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 7:38 PM
To: Jason Holland
Subject: Re: #63 Morningstar: Nov. 14th meeting and incoming questions
Jason,
Appears Morningstar is under the Consent Agenda "with no known opposition or concern " which is not
accurate even from much smaller 2nd neighborhood meeting with minimal people due to conflict schedule with Bronco
game. Input summary submitted came from residents comments during October and Association meeting only takes
place once a month. If this is final Planning and Zoning Board Meeting less than 2 months from neighborhood meeting
Sept. 23, that seems to be pushed through much faster than process indicated at first neighborhood meeting.
Assuming that your meeting suggestion of trellis top to dumpsters satisfied the odor and raccoon issues brought up did
not really remove concern. Same with Morningstar saying they were also concerned about mosquitoes without any how
to's for maintenance and insect control or that the service street gutter would compensate if still sloping land in front of
retaining wall. Just because no one in audience this time boldly said "how do we stop this building", did their brief
answers to questions mean it removed issues or that small attendance represented 3 surrounding communities.
On-line plan drawing, different from side detail shown at meeting, still does not state the incline from retaining wall to
ditch. Their drawing also shows slant down from condo property line to ditch as equal on their side, but we know it is
flatter on condo side and then slopes wrong way past new small tree back into D building along with hollowed area closer
to pine trees doing the same. As no way to raise existing condo building foundation it contributes to their problem if ditch
remains as is.
The LUC, p. 174 states where Bartran and his selling agents got the community center use for this land - 'A
neighborhood center provides a focal point" Appears from Agenda that Morningstar is also requesting larger footprint
area than zoned for which would concern residents; 43,000 as compared to 20,000 sq. ft. - more like what community
center (or church cited) would be. Modification for this project no longer seems to address the following stipulation: the
proposed project would substantially address an important community need specifically and expressly defined and
described in the city's Comprehensive Plan
Thank you for your time for replies and submission of email letter, along with other peoples comments to the P&Z,
which should remove Morningstar from Consent list for discussion. I still want to know total staff count including food
prep/service people? People still asking further questions - what rent will be, interior floor plan size for individual living
units, and if for one or two residents each? Still don't know if renters can reply or have to inform and have their landlords
give input?
Julie Charlson
Jason Holland
From:
greg russell <gwruss22@yahoo.com>
Sent:
Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:35 PM
To:
Jason Holland
Subject:
Morningstar Development
Follow Up Flag:
Follow up
Flag Status:
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Dear Jason Holland:
This letter is in regards to the new Morningstar Assisted Living and Memory Care Center that is being developed at the
corner of Horsetooth Road and Lochwood Drive. My wife and I own a condominium in the D building of the Collindale
Condominium complex, which we currently lease to responsible tenants.
Recently, we were informed that the grounds of the new center have been designed so that the dumpster/trash
enclosures will be facing the rear of our apartment complex. It should come as no surprise that we are greatly concerned
at the prospect of our tenants having to reside in a residence that overlooks such a site. And it's not just the visibility
aspect that has us concerned. While the winds along the Front Range usually do blow toward the east and south, they
will occasionally blow west from time to time, and I can only imagine the terrible stink that waft into our condo on these
days.
We are not wealthy people (I am a PhD candidate at CLI and my wife is a 3rd grade teacher at Bauder Elementary). In
fact, the rent we receive from our current tenants just covers the monthly mortgage and HOA dues. I am concerned that
if this dumpster/trash enclosure proceeds as planned, we will not only lose our current tenants, but we will also have a
difficult time finding new tenants to lease our condo at the current price. If this worst -case scenario comes to pass, we
will face the real possibility of having to foreclose on this property.
This condo has been under our ownership since 2004. We lived in it until 2008, then after the birth of our daughter, we
decided to rent it out in order to move into a residence with more space. We have put so much work into improving the
interior of this condo (including new appliances, carpet, paint, tile, among others) that we would be exasperated if it
were to be ruined on the exterior.
I ask you to put yourself in our shoes: How would you feel if a developer decided to put a line of dumpsters/trash cans in
your back yard?
We welcome the arrival of the Morningstar Center to the Collindale Community, and look forward to having the
employees and residents as new neighbors. All we are asking is for the dumpster/trash enclosures to be moved to the
south side of the complex so that it faces Horsetooth Road instead of the Collindale Complex.
I do not feel this is an unreasonable request, and thank you very much for your time and consideration in this matter.
Sincerely,
Greg Russell
P.S. Could you please let me know the time and location of the city meeting concerning this matter?
Jason Holland
From:
Emily Turner <kiwibax@gmail.com>'
Sent:
Monday, November 11, 2013 7:42 PM
To:
Jason Holland
Subject:
Proposal 63
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To whom it may concern,
I am a homeowner in the Collindale Condo Complex which backs to the proposed Morningstar Long Term Facility. My
property borders the open field. My property values will greatly decrease with the building of this space. I have dealt
with extensive moisture in my crawlspace below my unit because of normal run-off. I fear water damage from the
additional run-off will render my unit financially unlivable. I can not afford to install counter measures to deal with the
water run-off that a higher land level to the east. My unit is below the land level of the proposal, so any run-off will
funnel directly into my below level crawlspace. I would expect that provisions are in the proposal to reinburse
homeowners for damages.
Please vote against this proposal. I am a lifelong resident of this city. Choosing to pay the higher cost of living and
commuting 45 minutes for work. Building this complex will make me reevaluate my choice of city.
Thank you for your time,
Emily Turner
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Jason Holland
From:
Laabs <valerie_laabs@yahoo.com>
Sent:
Monday, November 11, 2013 9:55 PM
To:
Jason Holland
Subject:
Morningstar Development Proposal #63
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Mr. Holland,
I believe that a better use for this property would be medium density residential. Patio homes rather than
apartments or two or three story condominiums would be more in keeping with the neighboring areas of
homes. Patio homes are in great demand in Fort Collins and building them would help meet that need and
build the tax base.
I also think that most of the other concerns listed on the meeting notice are valid and add leverage to our
desire to see a more appropriate development on that property. Please listen to those of us who have a
great deal of interest in this property as we are the adjoining neighbors.
Thank you,
Valerie Laabs
3500 Rolling Green Drive Unit P57
Fort Collins
Jason Holland
From:
Julie Charlson <j.charlson @ comcast. net>
Sent:
Monday, November 11, 2013 11:44 PM
To:
MTurner@MorningStarSeniorLiving.com
Cc:
Jason Holland
Subject:
Interior Questions for Morningstar Assisted/Memory Care in Fort Collins
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Matt Turner,
There are questions more regarding the interior and quality of care of proposed Fort Collins
facility. Can you return/attach furnished room floor plans to see layout and size of single and double
occupant rooms? What are estimated monthly rates for both assisted living and memory care
sides? If an existing resident runs down resources, can they convert to Medicaid use or do they need
to relocate?
What is the breakdown of staff numbers; food prep and service, housecleaning, personal and health-
care attendants, and management or directors on site. What are the qualifications needed for
personal care assistants and highest level or certification for healthcare professionals on site? What
are procedures for health accidents or emergencies? What is the total count or resident capacity
including double occupant rooms? How are floors covered during the evening and room check
system?
Thank you,
Julie Charlson
Collindale resident
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Jason Holland
From:
Kim Greene <greenekim54@gmail.com>
Sent:
Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:54 AM
To:
Jason Holland
Subject:
Morning Star Proposal #63
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I live adjacent to this property and was always told that this property sat on a flood plain -and is not able to be
developed.
My back door looks out over this property and A RESIDENTAL 2-3 story building would be a GROSS MISTAKE TO ALLOW.
I do not want to look out my door to the propertys back alleyway and have major concerns about flood and water run
off of the proposed development. THERE IS A REASON THIS HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED, FLOOD AND HIGH WATER
TABLE!
Please do not allow our neighborhood to be developed with this HUGE residental property. It would ruin my property
view and reduce our property value.
Thank You,
Kim Greene
3500 Rolling Green Dr G29
Collindale condominium Association
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Jason Holland
From: joncgilbert@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 13 2013 8:36 AM
To: Jason Holland
Subject: Morningstar Assisted Living & Memory Care
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My husband and I have lived in the Collindale neighborhood for over 20
years. The development of the open space to the west of us has always
been a concern for us and our neighbors. The possibility of multi -family
units, we all feel, would have negative effects on our neighborhood if
developed in this space. This is why we (including many of our neighbors)
are very pleased with the proposed development of a Morningstar facility.
It fits this neighborhood perfectly which has traditionally been home to
mature home owners.
I attended the last neighborhood meeting and found the response to the
new proposal very positive. The concerns seemed minor while some
issues raised seemed to be from people trying to further their own agenda,
such as the issue of left turns onto Horsetooth from Lochwood.
We hope the city will grant the final approval for this development. If not
and Morningstar would still like to pursue the development, we would like
the opportunity to organize the
neighborhood for a response in force.
Thank you for your efforts and those of your staff.
Jean and Jon Gilbert
3418 Rolling Green Drive
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For PUBLIC HEARING Thursday evening 11/14/13
before City Council vote to Approve or Disapprove
Morningstar Long Term Care Facility development
for empty field, east of Collindale Condos, NE of Horsetooth & Lochwood.
City Planner assigned to Project : Jason Holland Phone- 970.224.6126
Email- jholland(a�fcgov.com
Collindale Resident's Summary of Concerns Against PDP 130024
1. Area already has water and mosquito problems and Morningstar facility with parking lot and
service road, along with higher land flowing into current ditch, is bound to add to amount of water
into ditch, rainwater backup, and water retention.
2. Ditch builds up slime and requires monthly shoveling to remove. Details of who will and how
ditch is to be maintained has not been worked out between Faith Management and Morningstar.
3. The Assisted Living/Alzheimer's facility is also a large restaurant serving three meals a day to about
100 residents and additional staff. Frequently with people in their eighties much uneaten food remains.
Waste from these many meals is to be emptied into dumpsters at east end of service road across from
Collindale Condominiums. The odor, possible raccoons, and noise of trash truck pick-ups are not
acceptable. Disposable pad/diapers, are often used at this level of care and add to trash problem.
4. Though building is attractive from streetscape on Lochwood, current surrounding residents would
be looking at either fence, possibly down on service road and trash containers, or at the parking lot
with lights. Two story structures will really be two and a half stories high due to leveling of land higher
at Lochwood back to retaining walls at ditch easement.
5. Resale or rental value could be lowered and additional traffic impact children walking to the
school or pool in the summer. Additional cars turning right from Lockwood onto Horsetooth when
clear, would take away opening to turn left from Rolling Green onto Horsetooth before next string
of approaching cars from lights at Lemay.
6. There is less need for this type of large facility now, especially if not accept Medicaid later from
resident -patients when they run out of savings for high rents. The City problem is where people can
go when live longer than their resources hold out. Facilities that accept or later convert to Medicaid
payment is the real need.
7. There are currently 7 memory care facilities in Fort Collins with openings for Alzheimer's
patients. Another 5 are assisted living without memory care. Other independent living facilities such
as Parkwood Estates, Worthington or Winslow, and Rigden Farms promote for -life residence bringing
in outside services. Another senior residence just opened in Windsor. Agencies have emerged for
Aging in Place for many desiring to remain in their homes.
8. Morningstar did not respond that they had certified nursing staff included for residents with final -stage -
of -life medical needs or emergencies at facility. Delays for ambulance and help to arrive could be critical.
Residents in current independent living places report "sirens all the time" and since this the final place to
live, will require more ambulance calls. Only 20 staff for estimated 100 residents is low if includes food
prep/server help. Personal attendants hired may also not be qualified enough for late -in -life heath needs.
9. If Bill Bartran and son Dan, still in construction. did not build on this land for so long, there must be
some sort of problem with developing it. Realtors will confirm a shortage of patio homes for seniors
wanting to downsize from their house. Nice single story patio -homes would fit better into the community,
seniors could and would pay well for them, and Bartran could follow-through to build himself. Patio homes
would be the least traffic and have covered garages without rows of parking lot lights. People accepting
Morningstar are just afraid something larger could be proposed. East Fort Collins, however, has already
overbuilt high-rise condos & apartments and the land water drainage kept Bartran from doing this earlier.
Submitted by Julie Charlson, Collindale condominium resident and board member of Collindale HOA.
(970) 646-0118 orj.charlson@comcast.net
Jean and Jon Gilbert
3418 Rolling Green
5. Concern about traffic flow from Lockwood onto Harmony. Turning left
or right from Lochwood or Rolling Green has always been an issue. It is
what it is. The small amount of traffic generated from this development
will probably be minimal. The sidewalk south of the Cherry Hills Condos
was also mentioned and you said the issue would be addressed.
6. Concern about the need for this type of facility. This is up to the
Morningstar people to determine what is viable from this area. This is
none of our business.
7. Concern about the need of additional memory care facilities. Again, this
is up to the Morningstar people, not us.
8. Concern about the lack of certified nursing ,staff. and number of staff.
We would think the facility will need to meet state standards. Concern
about ambulance calls - we have ambulances coming down Rolling Green
on a regular basis since we do have an older population. The sirens are
turned off no worse than trucks.
9. Concern that the current owners, in construction, have not developed
the lot and therefore something is wrong with it. The people concerned
about the above issues and this would like the field to remain open. We all
would. A park would be ideal but failing this we need to be ready for the
best development possible. Since this is a high density area, additional
multi -family units would be problematic. A development of patio -homes
for seniors was mentioned. Would be nice but with the price of the lot, this
is probably not feasible.
We hope the authors of this list of concerns will see fit to come to the
meeting tonight and have already provided you with this list. A copy blew
into the our backyard today so we were only just made aware of it. We
regret we cannot attend but we hope our neighbors who support
Morningstar will be able to do so.
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Jason Holland
From:
joncgilbert@comcast.net
Sent:
Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:19 PM
To:
Jason Holland
Subject:
Morning Star Facility
Jason -
Evidently the folks from Collindale (and maybe Cherry Hills) Condos
have posted concerns with the proposed development on the cluster boxes
in the neighborhood. Although they did not take credit for the list of
concerns, they did present many of them at the neighborhood meeting.
We would like to briefly address these issues.
1. Concern about mosquito and water issues becoming worse with
development. It was stated in the neighborhood meeting this would not
happen.
2. Concern about cleanup of the ditch. You stated at the meeting cleaning
of the ditch would be the HOA's responsibility except for a small portion.
Perhaps the city needs to clarify this issue with the HOA. The flow of the
ditch has been an issue since we moved here - has nothing to do with the
development.
3. Concern about trash, including additional food and body waste. Any
development will result in dumpsters and trash trucks. We would like the
issue of sanitation, including odor control, between pickups, be
addressed.
4. View from condos, including walls and parking lot lights. Also
concerns about second story views into trash collection area. We feel the
view currently available - weeds, a large mound of dirt and dog leavings -
offer little to the current residents. Perhaps clarification on the actual view
from the eastern most condos would be helpful to the residents.
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