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44. Will the City be installing a southbound Timberline left turn onto Blackbird? This
will help keep Jessup Farm traffic out of the neighborhood in front of the
townhomes.
A. Response from City Traffic Engineer: Yes, as part of the larger Timberline /
Prospect capital improvement project, the existing median will be cut back to
allow a southbound left -in turn onto Blackbird. But please note, however, that left
turn out movements from Blackbird onto Timberline will not be permitted. This
project will be in 2016.
45. We have a problem at the Timberline / Prospect intersection. There needs to be
a No U-Turn sign that prevents northbound traffic on Timberline from doing a u-
turn to go back south on Timberline. This u-turn conflicts with cars going east on
Timberline wanting to make a right turn to go south on Timberline. I've seen
some close calls near misses that could be prevented.
A. Response from City Traffic Engineer: Thank you for this comment and we will
look into this.
46.1 recommend that the project include a children's playground so the apartments
will attract families.
A. Thank you for this suggestion.
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37. Could you take a look at measures that would mitigate the impact on Yearling?
Could the buildings along Gooseberry be lowered from three to two stories?
A. We will take a look at options that address traffic on Yearling.
38. Looks like extending N.G. over the tracks to Sharp Point would help alleviate
traffic in the neighborhood. Do you know when this crossing would be
completed?
A. In talking to the City Engineering Department, this crossing could be made in
2018. This would be roughly equivalent to completion of the project.
39.Are you required to have a mix of housing types?
A. Yes, because of the overall size of Bucking Horse, we are required by the Land
Use Code to have a minimum of four housing types on a neighborhood -wide
basis. We are also required to have two housing types within the multi -family
project itself.
40. Would you consider these apartments to be on the upper end of the market?
A. Yes, we consider these to be Class A apartments but we do not know what the
rents will be yet.
41.At full build -out, how do you see the traffic distribution and volumes?
A. At full build -out of Bucking Horse, including the apartments, there could be up to
5,000 vehicle trips per day on N.G. and about 2,400 on Miles House. While
5,000 trips per day seems high compared to the volumes you see today, the
number is within the acceptable range for a collector street. For example, these
volumes are found on West Stuart Street between Shields and Taft and on
Manhattan south of Horsetooth. Also, we see these volumes on Clearview Street
and Cherry Street. Note that Manhattan features a raised cross -walk near the
school as a traffic calming device.
42.As you continue to analyze the traffic impacts, I urge the applicant's consultant
and the City Traffic Engineer to keep in mind that our clubhouse and pool are
essentially in the median of a collector street (soon to have 5,000 vehicle trips
per day).
A. We are aware of this unusual condition.
43. How many trips are generated by the apartments?
A. We estimate that based on the unit count, between 2,000 and 2,200 vehicle trips
per day generated by the apartments.
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signal. Having said that, please note that we continually monitor the conditions
so our data stays current.
30.Are you considering converting rental to condo ownership in the future?
A. No, we are not planning on converting to condos. Please note that we are not
constructing the buildings any different whether they are condos or not.
31. What will the houses along Nancy Gray look like?
A. We are working on variations on our "Modern Farmhouse" theme. At this time,
we have about 18 different models.
32. Could you make Blue Yonder a cul-de-sac so it doesn't intersect with
Gooseberry?
A. No, the Land Use Code requires local streets within a neighborhood to connect.
33. Is multi -family a done deal?
A. Multi -family has consistently been indicated on this parcel since before the
adoption of the Overall Development Plan.
34. The project is too dense for the neighborhood.
A. We acknowledge that the project represents multi -family housing at a higher
density than the single family and townhomes. But, please bear in mind that we
are less dense than The Trails at Timberline located at the northwest corner of
Timberline and Drake.
35. Will the apartments become part of our H.O.A.?
A. No, this project will have its own pool, clubhouse, garden and open space. But,
please note that there may be an exception. If the H.O.A. Board approves, the
apartment could enter into a shared amenities agreement where tenants could
use the H.O.A. amenities based on compensation and / or other consideration.
36. It looks like Yearling Drive will take the bulk of the traffic from this project. Could
another access to Nancy Gray or to the alley behind the houses on N.G. be
provided?
A. No, there is a significant grade differential between Nancy Gray and the
apartments, especially at the west end. Also, please note that the alley is too
narrow to be considered a street.
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A. We are intending that, within our project, there is a clear delineation that Cutting
Horse is not an extension of a public street. Our street will be a street -like private
drive as required by the Code. It will be narrower and include curves so as to
create the impression to the driver that you are entering a private street system.
In terms of adding traffic, yes, this project will add traffic to the neighborhood but
we think the added traffic stays within the tolerances for traffic volumes on both
local and collector streets. Also, as we have mentioned, there is a deliberate
design to provide four access points to distribute the traffic. If we reduce an
access point, then that will just load up the other three.
23. In looking at your buildings and their orientation, will a tenant be able to access
the building from either side?
A. Yes, on the long side of each building (townhome-like apartments excluded),
there will be a breezeway that allows entrance from both sides.
24. Will this be a student -oriented apartment complex?
A. No, we anticipate a mix of tenants, not just college students.
25. Will Belisimo manage the project after construction?
A. Yes.
26. Would our neighborhood be eligible for RP3?
A. Response from City Traffic Engineer: Yes. Please contact the City's Parking
Department for further information.
27. How long will the site be under construction?
A. We would like to begin in Spring of 2016 with our site work. Site work could take
up to six months. Then it takes about nine months to complete a building. We
then look at our absorption rates. We anticipate that there could be
approximately 30 to 40 days between completion of each building.
28. Could construction traffic stay off the local streets and just use the collectors?
A. Yes, we can work with the City on this.
29. Would a traffic signal be warranted as a result of this project at Miles House and
Drake/Ziegler?
A. Response from the City Traffic Engineer: As a result of this project, a traffic
signal would not be warranted. While it will be difficult to turn left from the
neighborhood during peak times, the approach volumes do not warrant a traffic
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A. Yes, there will be traffic on Yearling that is generated by the apartments but we
are also providing three other access points, four total, to help distribute traffic
away from Yearling. We will look at ways to mitigate this traffic.
17. Traffic in the whole neighborhood is too fast.
A. Response from City of Fort Collins Traffic Engineer: We can look at a variety of
traffic mitigation measures. We have a neighborhood program for putting in
speed tables but we need a majority of the folks in the neighborhood to agree.
Sometimes we can install the speed radar feedback signs as a deterrent to
speeding. As far as traffic on N.G., we will continue to monitor traffic volumes.
As far as violations of the one-way system around the clubhouse, we perhaps
can address this with signage.
18. It seems like the D.R. Horton construction traffic is the major violator of the one-
way system.
19.1 think we can all agree that this apartment project will generate a significant
amount of new traffic. Given this fact, let's discuss how to implement traffic
mitigation measures ahead of time. Let's not wait for the new traffic to become
such a problem that we have to endure the impacts before anything is done
about it. We need a comprehensive traffic calming plan now.
A. Response from City of Fort Collins Traffic Engineer: We appreciate your
concern. Our approach to neighborhood traffic calming is to be very judicious in
its implementation. We do not want to install traffic calming devices unless the
traffic volume and speeding problems warrant such installation. For example,
our estimate is that N.G. has about 600 vehicle trips per day and we generally
wait until we hit 1,000 trips per day before installing traffic calming. Keep in mind
that we continue to monitor the traffic volumes on collector streets on a city-wide
basis.
20. How many lots are left?
A. For Belisimo, we have 36 lots left. I can't speak for D.R. Horton.
21. How many lots do you have up on the ridge, and about how big will these homes
be?
A. We have about 21 lots and the houses will range in size from 1,600 — 2,000
square feet depending on floor plans and options.
22.1 live on Cutting Horse and Gooseberry. Is Cutting Horse designed to feed into
the apartments as if it were a street extension? Won't this just encourage more
traffic on Cutting Horse.
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A. There will not be any four -bedroom units and we rent by the unit, not bedroom.
9. What is the density of the project?
A. We come in at about 14 dwelling units on a per gross acre basis which includes
the clubhouse, pool, garden and open space.
10.Are the streets public or private?
A. The internal streets are all private. The Land Use Code requires that if the
streets are private, they must be constructed as "street -like private drives" which
means they must connect to the public streets, and include sidewalks and street
trees.
11. Can you park on these private streets?
A. Yes, you can provide either parallel or diagonal parking but not 90-degree head -
in parking.
12. So these streets are operating more like a public street than a typical parking lot?
A. Yes, that's correct. In fact, by utilizing these private streets, we are actually
losing parking lots and parking spaces.
13. The surrounding public streets do not seem to be well -coordinated with the
project.
A. By purchasing the property from the bank, we inherited the surrounding public
street system. Most all of these streets had utilities placed underground so it
would have been extremely expensive to re -design the public streets.
14. The problem with the street system is that Nancy Gray is a collector and the
clubhouse and pool are placed in the middle requiring kids to cross a busy street.
This seems like a serious design flaw. N.G. may need speed tables and cross-
walks.
A. We agree. But, as we stated, we bought a fully platted subdivision that was
mostly developed by the previous developer.
15. There is speeding on N.G. Also, there is a lot traffic that goes the wrong way on
the one-way lanes around the clubhouse and pool island.
16.1 live on Yearling Drive. I see nothing but more traffic due to these apartments.
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A. Bucking Horse is within the Riffenburgh boundary area so students from this
neighborhood will have priority over students that want to choice in.
2. Will these units be under condo ownership or for rent?
A. These units will be for rent.
3. 1 recently bought a home from D.R. Horton. I don't recall seeing multi -family
apartments at the sales office. Had I known that this area was designated for
multi -family, I might have made a different decision about moving into this
neighborhood.
A. We have always shown this area to be a multi -family apartment parcel based on
the approved Overall Development Plan. We are sorry to hear that D.R. Horton
did not convey this information accurately.
4. Have you thought about putting the townhome-like apartments (two-story)
instead of the 24-plex (three-story) along Gooseberry to help buffer the single
family homes?
A. We have the two-story units behind the houses that front on Nancy Gray
primarily because of the existing grade so the three-story buildings do not loom
over the single family. On Gooseberry, the grade is lower and flatter so we
thought this would be a good location for the three-story buildings.
5. 1 see where the future extension of Nancy Gray will extend east over the railroad
tracks. Does this mean that every time a train crosses Nancy Gray, the train
horn will blast away?
A. We are working with the City to make construct this crossing with the crossing
gates. This should qualify the crossing as a quiet zone not needing the train to
sound the horn.
6. We are concerned about spillover parking. Do you have enough parking? Looks
to me like you may need some more parking.
A. The City's Land Use Code requires a minimum number of parking spaces based
on the mix of bedrooms per unit. Based on our mix, we have 18 spaces over the
required minimum.
7. What are the minimum required parking ratios?
A. 1.5 spaces per studio and one -bedroom unit; 1.75 spaces per two -bedroom unit;
and 2.00 spaces per three -bedroom unit?
8. Will there be any four -bedroom units and do you rent by the unit or bedroom?
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NEIGHBORHOOD INFORMATION MEETING
PROJECT: Bucking Horse Multi -Family Apartments
LOCATION: The Multi -Family Portion of Bucking Horse O.D.P.
DATE: October 26, 2015
APPLICANT: Mr. Gino Campana, Belisimo Development
CONSULTANTS: Paul Mills, Russell + Mills Studios
Ian Schuff, ALM+2S Architects
Matt Delich, Delich and Associates
Nick Haws, Northern Engineering
CITY PLANNER: Ted Shepard, Chief Planner
Description of the Proposed Project:
As proposed, this is a request to construct 328 multi -family units on a 23-acre parcel
within the Bucking Horse development. There will be a mix of two and three story
buildings. A total of 597 parking spaces will be provided and divided between surface
parking and garages. A clubhouse, pool, central green and community garden are
provided to serve this development. Primary access would be gained via Miles House
Avenue. There would be three other access points.
The parcels are located in the Low Density Mixed -Use Neighborhood (LMN) and Urban
Estate (UE) zone districts. Multi -family dwellings have been permitted with the granting
of an Addition of Permitted Use in conjunction with the Overall Development Plan. This
proposal will be subject to Planning & Zoning Board (Type II) review.
Unless otherwise noted, all responses are from the applicant and consulting team.
Questions, Concerns, Comments
1. 1 live on Nancy Gray and I'm concerned about the number elementary school
children that this project will generate and the impact on Riffenburgh School.
This school is at near capacity and will soon convert to the I.B. curriculum. This
is a popular curriculum so more students from outside the boundary area will
want to "choice in" potentially causing over -crowding.
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