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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSTORYBOOK - PDP - 49-98 - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGA. Type I & II processes are the same. There is a 12-15 week project review then public hearing. Public comment is welcome. 48. Appeals? A. After public hearing, they go to City Council directly. 49. The grid layout of the developments yisn't compatible with existing development. A. The densities required by the City dictate the grid layout. There are 2 access points only. There is a 50 foot common open space on the Chesapeake side. 50. Comment: We live here because of the open feeling. We want to keep it. Why not move the park to the Chesapeake side? The plan as it is is repulsive. It is not compatible. 51. Where will lighting be located? A. At all intersections. The City plans and controls lighting. 52. What about the increase in traffic in the area? What about the truck routes? Volume and speed is the issue here. A. City response: Voters approved a plan to re-route trucks from Old Town through the northeast. It will be a major arterial. The State designates roads for truck use. Police can ticket violators. 53. Bill Birchy (Councilperson for District 1) comment: Please put you comments in writing to me. Please get involved in the transportation study for the northeast. Stormwater & Utility 54. What about drainage for this area? A. There is no master plan for the area. The irrigation ditch receives all water drainage. There is only a 1% chance for a 100 year flood. 55. City: This is prior to a formal project submittal. There is a 12-15 week development review process. A sign will be put up before the neighborhood meeting for comment and questions on the formal project proposal. 56. What will trigger another public hearing? A. There will be the public hearing for approval of the plan. It `s near the end of the process. 39. New residences will take Country Club Road to shop. A. City response: All traffic doesn't go south. The northeast transportation plan will look at these issues. 40. Comments: • The density in this area is unique in Fort Collins. The north has a lower density —it's more open with large lots. Why does City Plan have an urban density in this area? Why not put this in the south? • We don't want to be a Harmony corridor. A. City response: The northeast has been annexed in the last 10 years. The south has limits to growth, and the northeast is available for growth. 41. Why isn't a suburban plan maintained? Why so urban? Can we change the City Plan? A. City Plan has designated this quadrant for urban development. The plan could be amended. 42. Comment: The City Plan concept is that low densities yield urban sprawl.. Increased density allows more open space. The City looked.at 3 plans originally before deciding on this plan. 43. There is a conflict - we were part of the County, not part of the City process. A. The Northeast Neighborhood Coalition was active in the development of City Plan. 44. Traffic on Country Club Road is a concern. The collector road may need to extend north. Were residents on Country Club Road notified of this meeting? A. We notified some residents on Country Club Road, but not west of Country Club Cove. 45. Comment: The Northeast Neighborhood Coalition worked to reduce density concerns. The infrastructure doesn't exist to support development. People go south. They need roads. 46. Will there be an interchange at County Road 52 and I-25? A. City Plan will look at the entire area including the street plan. An interchange is probable. 47. Where does public comment go after this? Could this plan be changed — layout wise? a 30. There is no sign of these changes in this plan. A. It would be inappropriate at this time to comment on these changes. No traffic analysis has been done. 31. In a 1975 plan, Timberline was studied. The plan has indicators for Timberline's extension. A. The City would work with developers and the Northeast Transportation Plan.. 32. Why not include this plan in the Mountain Vista Plan? A. We will. We'll look at it in more detail. This is one corner of the quadrant. 33. Do you have control of the project? A. From the land use code. 34. Will you include this project with the overall plan? A. We'll work with them. 35. Comments: • 700-1400 units is a lot. • Compatibility is a major issue for Adriel Hills and Chesapeake, in fact it is the #1 concern. A. There will be answers. This particular plan is transitional to actual development. 36. If this was still County, it would be different. A. It is still in the City growth area, and the County has a new plan that promotes clustering. 37. Comments: • This plan is forcing more traffic on to Country Club Road. • Pedestrians won't cross an arterial to a commercial area. A. This is a 2 lane collector street, not an arterial. Country Club Road stops to prevent this.. 38. Will a grocery store be built before houses? A. Not before the houses. • 600 units divided by 8 is not 12 units/ acre. • Are 5/units/acre compatible with Chesapeake (patio home area of Adriel Hills on County Road 11)? (Light yellow area on map) • Chesapeake has a green belt. • Your development doesn't compare to Chesapeake and Adriel Hills with its golf course, etc. There is a conflict between City Plan and existing development. The City has decided on an urban utility center. 25. Could you put the higher density in the center of the development? A. Yes, we could.move the houses. But the traffic issues are the same. It would have the same overall impact. City response: There is a 20 year window for City Plan. The northeast quadrant is identified for future urban development. Yes, there are different compatibilities with existing development. The first of 1998 the City has a more detailed plan for the northeast, "Mountain Vista Plan." This is a 12 month review and planning process involving transportation, land use issues. The process provides opportunities for community involvement. There will be an opportunity to adjust densities. 26. Why are you presenting this plan? (to City planner) A. This plan came to us.. 27. What chance is there for extending County Road 11 down to Vine? (to City planner) A. I don't know. (Transportation Dept.) County Road 11 is planned to extend to Vine according to the master plan. Transportation Dept. 28. The master plan for the northeast has a 3 year window, but will it be developed already? A. The Mountain Vista Plan looks at County Road 11 to Vine to I-25. The northeast transportation plan has a larger area. It's a 12 month process. There is also an I-25 corridor plan. 29. Timberline is going to Summit View. Why isn't is going north? A. It goes into Mountain Vista.. will be a 2 lane road with detached sidewalks. Mountain Vista has 112 foot right of way. It will be a 4 lane road with a median, sidewalks, and parkway. 16. Will County Road 11 be extended to Vine? A. I can't answer that at this time. 17. Will curbs and gutter be put on both sides of County Road 11? A. I'm not sure if the other side will have curbs and gutter, but it will be a 2 lane completed road structure. 18. Will the property owners on the other side of the street be responsible for curbs and gutters? A. I don't know that tonight:. 19. What is the compatibility of the project with existing neighborhoods? A. We looked at residential land uses currently. Overall, we see a mix of residential uses. The proposed project fits. The patio homes are similar to Adriel Hills. The empty nester lifestyle that patio homes attract is similar to Adriel Hills. 20. The newer patio homes at Adriel Hills are detached. A. These patio homes are duplexes. 21. That's different. A. If they were separated, they would be similar to Adriel Hills. 22. What is the density for the light yellow on the Zoning Map? A. It has a minimum density of 5 units/acre. 23. What is the density of the light yellow on the Structure Map? A. It has a minimum density of 4 units/acre. 24. To be compatible, shouldn't new construction be more closely matched at 4 units/acre? A. 5 units/ acre is the lowest we can propose. We will need 2 '/2 times that density for the remainder of the property or 12/units/ acre to meet City density requirements. Comments: 6. Why are there minimum requirements? A. City Plan provides for more efficient land use with this density versus urban sprawl. Also, alternative transportation modes are encouraged. 7. Why not build this project in an urban area? A. We are building next to a built area. 8. What is the purple area (on the map)? A. Purple areas are for civic uses such as churches, schools, government buildings. 9. What is the difference between the different colored areas (on the map)? A. The other colors are for office/commercial areas, residential, and green spaces. 10. For the yellow areas, are there individual buyers? A. There are no firm plans yet. 11. Is there a set price criteria for the yellow lots? A. No. 12. Aren't County Road 11 and Mountain Vista county roads? A. Mountain Vista Dr. is in City limits. County Road 11, I don't know ... the City has that information. Gary Mackey, City Traffic Dept., presented information on Road Development. 13. How are County Road 11 and Mountain Vista Dr. to be improved? A. County Road 11 will be widened from the farmhouse down. Mountain Vista Dr. will become a 4 lane arterial. 14. What are the required improvements? A. Curbs, gutters and drains will be put in and the road will be repaved with somewhere between 4"-6" asphalt. 15. What will be the width of the roads? A. County Road 11 has an 80 foot right of way. It will be 60 feet wide curb to curb. It this moment. It will be based on need associated with development in the area. Question: Is development set at 700 residential units or 1,400 residential units for the property? Answer: 700 units is the minimum according to the City Plan. NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING MINUTES PROJECT: Storybook Development Plans DATE: December 3, 1997 APPLICANT/CONSULTANTS: Eldon Ward and Gary Mackey STAFF: Steve Olt, Current Planning Dept. Pete Wray, Advance Planning Dept. Dan McArthur, Neighborhood Resources Office Kathleen Reavis and John Daggett, Transportation Dept. Glen Schlueter, Stormwater Utility Questions/Concerns/Comments Question: What is the size of the plot, parcel of land? Answer: Approximately 137 acres, in total. 2. Question: What provisions are there for east/west traffic? Is it only Country Club Road? Answer: Transportation Dept. response: The streets and roads in the area are already there. Country Club Road will extend east to the T- intersection where there will be a collector road which will continue north. There are no other opportunities for a road west. 3. Question: Mountain Vista Dr. is an arterial road. Will there be improvements made to it? Answer: It has a 114 foot right-of-way. It will be widened to 5 lanes, including bike lanes. These improvements would be done to meet City requirements and standards. There will also be some widening of County Road 11. 4. Question: What is the time frame for the road improvements? Answer: That is presently uncertain. There is no specific construction plan at