HomeMy WebLinkAboutPROMONTORY - PDP - 32-99 - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTES (3)Planning and Zoning Board Minutes
July 6, 2000
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Ward Stanford, Traffic Operations, addressed the issues raised by Member Craig. He
discussed speed limits and stopping distances. He did not feel the offset of the
intersection at High Point to be a negative. It further separated the left turn areas due to
the placement.
Member Craig reflected upon an issue raised by a citizen concerning Troutman turning
left (north). She asked how it would work with even more cars on Boardwalk.
Ward Stanford stated that a light at that intersection might be developed depending on
the evolution of that area. He did measure times as viewed by a timid driver. The times
there during peak hours were within the normal range of service. The number of cars
that may be added due to the proposed project was under 100 cars.
Member Craig continued to have concerns for safety considerations and pedestrian
separation. She would not be supporting the project due to the fact that it was feasible
to protect the pedestrians better.
The motion was approved 5-1 with Member Craig voting in the negative.
Other Business:
None
The meeting adjourned at 10:20 p.m.
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Paul Eckman, Assistant City Attorney, reminded the board that a denial of the
modification would not make the sidewalks automatically appear on the plans for the
project as a whole. He felt it would be difficult to approve the proposed project with a
denial of the modification due to all of the changes that would be necessary.
Member Craig asked why a sidewalk would not be sufficient on the north side of the two
south buildings.
Troy Jones responded that the walkways on the north side of the buildings crossed
garages, which did not meet the code.
Ted Shepard felt the modification had a fundamental aspect to the project as a whole.
Member Carpenter stated that the residential portion of the project consisted of one -
bedroom units, so she felt a bit more comfortable with the project because there would
probably not be many children in the development. She would not feel the same if the
units would foster more families.
Member Gavaldon would not support the motion.
Member Bernth concurred with Clark Mapes and would not be supporting the denial.
The motion was denied 2-4 with Members Carpenter, Bernth, Meyer and Gavaldon
voting against the motion.
Member Bernth moved to approve the modification regarding Buildings F, A & B,
concerning Article 3.5.2(C)(1) requiring all residential building to have a primary
entrance that faces a connecting walkway.
Member Carpenter seconded the motion.
Member Torgerson was glad that the previous motion did not stop the project, but he
would not be supporting the new motion.
The motion was approved 4-2 with Members Craig and Torgerson voting in the
negative.
Member Torgerson moved to approve the project development plan as
recommended by staff.
Member Meyer seconded the motion.
Member Craig wanted to discuss traffic issues, how Boardwalk fit into the Master Street
Plan, counts from site visits, the offset of the intersection at High Point, and site vision
regarding left -out turns.
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There were no questions by the board for the issue of the modification of the secondary
uses.
Member Meyer moved to approve the modification regarding Article 4.22(D)(2)
secondary uses as recommended in the staff report.
Member Torgerson seconded the motion.
The motion was approved 6-0.
Troy Jones reviewed the final modification request. He referenced a memo he wrote
including the findings for approval. The modification included buildings F, A & B without
direct sidewalk connections from the primary entrance to the street sidewalk. Again the
solution was to face the buildings internally to the courtyard.
Member Carpenter asked Clark Mapes to clarify the modification request.
Clark Mapes believed that staff did not feel strongly enough about recommending denial
of the modification, so the staff did support the modification with the reasoning that the
courtyard was appropriate. He believed that the site could not support the code
requirement. They did not feel that the south buildings should have a walkway to the
south due to the location of the wildlife movement corridor.
Member Torgerson could not justify the modification. He felt it was not better for the
public good to have to walk through an area that was also used as a driveway for
vehicles. He felt the pedestrians should not have to share the concrete with the cars.
Member Torgerson moved to DENY the modification regarding Buildings F, A &
B, concerning Article 3.5.2(C)(1) requiring all residential building to have a
primary entrance that faces a connecting walkway.
Member Craig seconded the motion.
Member Craig had the same concerns for the safety of the pedestrians.
Member Bernth could not support the motion. He felt that infill sites needed
compromises to achieve the closest compliance with the code. He did like the courtyard
idea, so he would not be supporting the motion.
Member Craig felt that you could have a courtyard effect, but you could have a curb to
protect the pedestrian.
Member Gavaldon asked if the south buildings would be forced to have a connecting
sidewalk on the south side of the building in the buffer area.
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Troy Jones reviewed the issue with the next modification request. Building C & D were
further than 200 feet away from the street and they did not have a connecting walkway
to the street. The solution was to face the buildings to a courtyard instead of the street.
Staff found that solution to be equal to or better then the requirement of the code.
Member Torgerson asked if parking would be allowed in the area of the scored concrete
behind the garages in buildings A & B.
Mr. Prouty stated that the scored concrete was not designated parking, but parking
would be allowed there. There was space for pedestrian walkways outside of the
scored concrete area. He also said that the covenants would discourage permanent
parking in the scored concrete areas behind the garages.
Member Torgerson asked about the surface parking spaces being 17 feet long.
Troy Jones reflected that residential parking at 17 feet has been found to be appropriate
with a 2-foot bumper overhang area.
Member Craig asked about the parking spaces overhanging the detention area.
Troy Jones responded that the parking was 17 feet with a 2-foot overhang area.
Mr. Prouty added that there was 6 feet beyond the parking overhang area for pedestrian
walkways.
Member Bernth moved to approve the modification regarding Buildings C & D,
concerning Article 3.5.2(C)(1) requiring all residential building to have a primary
entrance that faces a connecting walkway within 200 feet of the street sidewalk as
recommended in the staff report.
Member Meyer seconded the motion.
The motion was approved 5-1 with Member Torgerson voting in the negative.
There were no questions by the board for the issue of the modification of the curb
painting.
Member Craig moved to approve the modification regarding Article 3.6.6(G)
parking control concerning curb painting and signage as recommended in the
May 30, 2000 staff memo.
Member Carpenter seconded the motion.
The motion was approved 6-0.
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Member Bernth appreciated the wildlife preservation, but he also supported infill
development. He encouraged infill more that urban sprawl, so he did not want to hinder
that infill type of development.
Member Craig felt that the foxes were urbanized and that the reduction of the buffer to
20 feet would probably not effect them. She felt that some of the residents would have
pets, but 100 feet wouldn't contain the pets either. She felt this particular site had
special circumstances and she could support the motion. She wanted to ensure that
during construction, a fence would be placed at the 20 feet to be sure the construction
would not intrude upon the buffer.
Member Gavaldon wanted to make an amendment to the motion to include planting
light vegetation to provide a modest buffer to the ditch. This would assist the wildlife
and buffer the residents.
Member Bernth accepted the amendment.
Member Torgerson accepted the amendment, but he was concerned with ambiguous
conditions and the enforcement of issues not directly related to the code.
Member Meyer felt it must be modest.
Tom Shoemaker reminded the board that the 20 feet starting at the top of the ditch, was
an easement held by the Ditch Company. He assured that the Natural Resources
Department would work toward the planting of modest vegetation, but he stated that the
Ditch Company had to approve the work.
Member Gavaldon was comfortable with the motion.
Member Carpenter asked what protection would be in place during construction.
Kim Kreimeyer stated that they would put language in the development agreement to
protect the foxes.
Member Craig asked Mr. Prouty to follow-up on the education of the residents and the
purchase of the strip of land owned by the private citizen.
Member Carpenter agreed.
Mr. Prouty shook his head in agreement.
The motion was approved 5-1 with Member Carpenter voting in the negative.
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Member Gavaldon asked why the fence was built so close to the den to begin with.
Tom Shoemaker stated that the site had very little wildlife habitat value. Due to that,
there was no requirement for extensive research of the area.
Kim Kreimeyer did not see any evidence that the tree was being used for a den, so no
further study was required. She also took into account that the site did not connect two
wildlife areas.
Tom Shoemaker mentioned that the code did state that the buffer distance could be
adjusted for flexibility.
Paul Eckman, Deputy City Attorney, felt the 50-foot buffer was a benchmark, but a
footnote in the code later stated that the numbers could increased or decreased.
Member Carpenter asked if there could be a compromise of planting vegetation or
fencing to protect the area.
Tom Shoemaker felt that could be a compromise, but he had reservations due to the
overall site context. He did not want to make a small area more appealing due to the
fact that it was in a densely populated housing area. He felt that it would raise the risk
of more animals being killed on the road.
Member Carpenter asked if the vegetation would be a problem of attracting animals that
would be there anyway. She asked if by planting a small amount of vegetation, would
that den be a place to which the mother fox may choose to come back.
Tom Shoemaker stated that it was a judgment call if the plantings would be appropriate,
but he did feel that the vegetation might assist in the mother's choice to come back.
John Prouty stated that the minimum distance for the buffer was 20 feet, getting wider
toward Boardwalk. He also wanted to lead the effort in obtaining the strip of land to
assist in the buffering and enhancement of the habitat.
Member Bernth moved to approve the modification of the reduction of the buffer
zone from 50 feet to a 20 feet at the minimum as recommended by staff.
Member Torgerson seconded the motion.
Member Carpenter did not support the motion of reducing the buffer zone. She did not
want to set a precedence that would develop all of the open wildlife areas.
Member Torgerson felt that the issue was meeting the land use code and he trusted the
judgement of the experts who supported the reduction in reference to the wildlife
protection.
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Ronny Turner, 855 Sandy Cove Lane, agreed with his wife JoElla. He hoped to
preserve as much of the buffer as possible.
Discussion:
Mr. Prouty responded to the concerns by saying that the den was quite far from the
actual development site. He felt that the 2 buildings on the south did not have
connecting walkways that went along the ditch to interrupt the fox. He felt that the
design of his development was the best to deter people from walking behind the
buildings along the ditch. He suggested purchasing the sliver of land parallel to the
ditch area to then protect it.
Troy Jones clarified the location of the tree with the den.
Tom Shoemaker wanted to thank JoElla for the videos. He felt the community did
appreciate wildlife. He also pointed out that the foxes adapted to the people around
them and he did not feel the 50-foot buffer was necessary due to that. He felt
communication and education would help in protecting the fox.
Member Craig asked Tom Shoemaker what was intended by stating irrigation ditches
could be used as wildlife movement corridors.
Tom Shoemaker responded that they did not intend to have all irrigation ditches as
movement corridors and he felt the definition needed some clarification. He said the
initial intent was to preserve connections between different wildlife areas.
Kim Kreimeyer stated that the Fossil Creek Inlet Ditch connected the Arapahoe Bend
Natural Area with the Fossil Creek Reservoir.
Member Craig asked why the 50-foot buffer was necessary there, but not at the
proposed development site.
Kim Kreimeyer stated that the 50-foot buffer connecting two wildlife areas would be
used for many different types of wildlife and native plants and grasses would be planted
to protect the wildlife and promote the movement along the corridor.
Member Carpenter asked when the Natural Resources staff made a site visit.
Kim Kreimeyer stated that the site visit happened prior to March 8, 2000.
Member Bernth asked who owned the land with the den on it.
Kim Kreimeyer stated that a private citizen owned the land and that the City or Natural
Resources Department had no control over the Ditch Company.
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believed that native plantings would not be a benefit to the canal because they would
not want to make the site any more attractive than it already was for the wildlife due to
the urban nature of the site.
Member Craig asked which side of the ditch was the canal easement and was it being
used for the 20-foot buffer. She had a concern that the buildings would be too close to
the easement and the ditch, and the fox may begin to look for food within the
development.
Troy Jones stated that the ditch access was on the north side of the canal. He used the
site plan to show where the ditch was located and where the buildings would be placed
in proximity to the ditch and the street.
Kim Kreimeyer, Natural Resources Department, added that the property was odd
shaped, so the distance between the buildings and the ditch access was different at
either end of the site. Kim described that there would be a 35-foot area between the
ditch and the building in most areas.
Tom Shoemaker felt the potential for interaction between the fox and the residents
existed, but with good education, the residents could minimize that chance. He did not
feel the distance between 20 and 50 feet would make a difference to the fox.
Troy Jones again showed the site shots for clarification.
The applicant, John Prouty, gave a presentation discussing the applicant's responses to
the modifications. He also described other communities that had similar designs and
amenities to the proposed project. He then described the proposed project.
Member Craig asked where the primary access was for the 8 units per building.
Mr. Prouty showed Member Craig a plan that revealed the landing located in the center
of the building, as the primary access for the units in each building.
Public Comment:
JoElla Turner, 855 Sandy Cove Lane, gave a presentation concerning the foxes. She
provided 3 video clips of the foxes. She felt the foxes were a true treasure for the
community. She provided photographs and testaments that the fox had been there for
4 years. She felt it was a wildlife movement corridor. She wanted to preserve the
wildlife movement corridor.
Ellen Wride, citizen and employee of the Post Office, wanted to express her support of
JoElla Turner's proposition.
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Project: #32-99 Promontory — Project Development Plan
Project Description: Request for a mixed -use development containing
office and multi -family residential uses. The property
is located on the southwest side of Boardwalk Drive,
east of the Post Office, and north of Troutman
Parkway. The applicant proposes to develop 48 one -
bedroom residential flats (in 6 buildings) and a total of
37,804 square feet of leasable floor area for office
uses (in 5 buildings) on a 5.08 acres site. The site is
in the (E) Employment Zoning District.
Recommendation: Approval
Hearing Testimony, Written Comments and Other Evidence:
Troy Jones, City Planner, in place of Steve Olt, gave a presentation describing the
project. He noted the location of the site using site shots. He described the
modifications necessary for the site. The first modification was for Buildings C & D,
concerning Article 3.5.2(C)(1) requiring that all residential building have a primary
entrance that faces a connecting walkway within 200 feet of the street sidewalk. The
placement of the buildings was located beyond the 200 feet requirement, which placed
the project out of compliance. The second modification was for Article 3.6.6(G)
concerning painting the curbs and parking stall lines. The applicant proposed enhanced
paving and signage to notify the residents instead of the paint. The third modification
was for Article 4.22(D)(2) concerning secondary uses. The applicant proposed to adjust
the ratio of secondary uses to 53% of the site. The fourth modification was for the
wildlife corridor being reduced from 50 feet to 20 feet. The staff supported the buffer
reduction. The last modification request was again for Article 3.5.2(C)(1), but
concerning the 2 buildings at the south of the site (A & B) and the 1 building just north of
the drive isle (F). These buildings were not able to have the primary walkway connect
directly to the street due to the specifics of the site. The applicant felt the internal
walkways were better than the code requirements.
Tom Shoemaker, Natural Resources Department, described where the foxes had
inhabited to the south and the west of the site. He felt the foxes would not be disturbed
with the proposed project. The tree/den was not on the site. The applicant agreed not
to use the ditch access that passed by the den. The Natural Resources Department
found that the canal was a marginal wildlife movement corridor and did not require the
extensive buffer that many others did. The corridor did not connect with any other
wildlife area on the west. The Natural Resources Department did not feel the 50-foot
buffer would bring any benefits and that the 20-foot buffer was sufficient. They also
Council Liaison: Scott Mason
Chairperson: Glen Colton
Vice Chair: Jerry Gavaldon
Staff Liaison: Ted S
Phone: (H) 225-2760
Phone: (H) 484-2034
Vice Chairperson Gavaldon called the meeting to order at 6:32 p.m.
Roll Call: Bernth, Craig, Gavaldon, Carpenter, Torgerson, and Meyer. Member
Colton was absent.
Staff Present: Virata, McCallum, Schlueter, Jones, Shepard, Eckman, Jackson,
Shoemaker, Kreimeyer, Cook, Stanford, Mapes and Kuch.
Agenda Review: Chief Planner of Current Planning Ted Shepard reviewed the Consent
and Discussion Agendas:
Consent Agenda:
1. Minutes of the March 16, April 6, April 20 (CONTINUED), May 4
(CONTINUED), May 18 (CONTINUED), and June 1, 2000
Planning and Zoning Board Hearings.
2. Modifications of Conditions of Final Approval
3. Resolution PZ00-21 Easement Vacation
4. #13-82CH Oakridge Business Park PUD, 10th Filing, Lot 2 — Preliminary
and Final
Discussion Agenda:
5. #32-99 Promontory — Project Development Plan
Staff continued the April 20, May 4 and May 18, 2000 Planning & Zoning Board Minutes
from item 1.
Member Craig moved for approval of Consent items 2, 3, 4, and minutes dated
3116/00, 4/6100 and 6/1/00.
Member Bernth seconded the motion. The motion was approved 6-0.