HomeMy WebLinkAboutLARIMER COUNTY DETENTION COMPLEX, SHERIFF'S ADMINISTRATION BUILDING - SPECIAL SITE PLAN ADVISORY REVIEW - 37-99 - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESPlanning and Zoning Board Minutes
February 3, 2000
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Public Comment:
None
Discussion:
Member Craig asked Paul Eckman, Deputy City Attorney, if the Board could continue
the project.
Paul Eckman responded that the statue provided that the failure of the Board to act
within 60 days of the submission shall be deemed as an approval. The county had
agreed in writing to extend the time until February 4, 2000. He reviewed the statues of
the options the Board had to make.
Member Craig moved to disapprove the project on the grounds of danger to the
health and safety of the public in reference to the access point issue, the right-of-
way being to small, and the drainage situation.
Member Craig couldn't disapprove the project on the issue of the trees, but she would
rather see some trees in the landscaping.
Member Torgerson asked for clarification of what the criteria was to measure the project
against.
Paul Eckman stated it was against the City Code.
Member Torgerson seconded the motion.
Member Gavaldon could not support the motion as it was stated. He felt it was an
Advisory Review and the conditions would be addressed. He would rather work in a
cooperative effort to fulfill the conditions.
Member Torgerson accepted the landscaping discretion of the Sheriff as a safety
concern, but he felt there were many other issues left to be addressed. He would have
liked to see the government developers be held to the same standards as the private
developers.
Member Carpenter agreed with the concerns, especially those concerning the access
points.
Member Colton supported the motion and wanted to send a stronger message that the
issues were seen as important to the City.
The motion was approved 5-1, with Member Gavaldon voting against the motion
to disapprove.
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Mr. Gibbs could not respond.
Member Craig asked Glen Schlueter to address the drainage issues.
Glen Schlueter, Stormwater Department, addressed the temporary detention pond and
the concerns the City had, and he felt that they were at the beginning of the review
process with time to adjust, but the general philosophy was acceptable to the
Stormwater Department.
Member Craig wanted to know the traffic analysis for the site of 770 weekday trips, 100
in the AM and 100 in the PM.
Eric Bracke, Traffic Operations, responded that as he understood it, they were new
trips.
Member Craig asked when the site would get a "right -in -right -out" intersection.
Eric Bracke stated that it would be built soon.
Member Craig had the concern that development would happen without the intersection
upgrade. She was concerned for public safety. Member Craig asked if there were any
final plans in for the other developments in the area.
Sheri Wamhoff responded that Spring Creek Center did have utility plans filed, but was
unsure if the development agreement was ready. She also stated that Advanced
Energy also had utility plans filed, but did not have a development agreement. She did
not feel any of the projects were in a big hurry to build.
Bob Blanchard, Director of Current Planning said that the condition for the "right -in -right -
out" was a condition of final approval for the projects, so it had to be built at the time of
construction.
Member Craig explained her concerns for the area in reference to traffic and safety.
Member Gavaldon disagreed with the thought process Member Craig was using. He
felt the Detention Center did not have any bearing on the intersection. He felt there
were other projects that had the conditions to complete that intersection. He felt there
was no power over this project to insist on the intersection.
Member Craig responded that she was concerned with the 770 trips created by the
office building. She felt it may exacerbate an already dangerous situation, but she
realized that there was nothing she could do but reiterate her concern for the problem.
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Mr. Gibbs stated that the Sheriff was adamant about not planting shrubs or trees where
criminals could hide. The concern that a prisoner could escape from the Center or a
vehicle is why the landscape plan was designed as it was. The parking lot in question
of adding additional trees is located just to the east of the Detention Center.
Member Craig felt that some of the concerns of the Sheriff sounded on the side of
paranoia. She felt if she worked in the Sheriff's Office, she would rather have her car
under a shade tree than be concerned about a prisoner hiding behind the two-inch tree.
Member Craig asked if the county was aware of the City's interest in a painted
crosswalk.
Mr. Gibbs said he was aware of the reasoning, but he was not in the position to commit
the county to the work.
Member Torgerson asked Mr. Gibbs to elaborate why they could not place the road
over underground utilities.
Mr. Gibbs responded that it was the cost to realign the utilities that made for the
decision.
Member Torgerson asked Planner Fuchs that if regular developers in the community
asked to not align roads due to cost would that typically be acceptable.
Sheri Wamhoff, Engineering Department, responded that the site sits directly between
two other drives, so the City wanted it to align with one of the drives so it was not a
safety hazard.
Member Torgerson asked if the county staff received plans and comments from the
C ity.
Mr. Gibbs stated that the county did receive plans but chose not to respond.
Member Craig asked if the county had looked in the Land Use Code in reference to
"public improvements within the right-of-way should be designed and constructed in full
compliance with the Land Use Code" and she asked how these were not in compliance.
Mr. Gibbs could not answer the question.
Sheri Wamhoff stated that the parkway was a smaller width than City standards and she
asked the county to also bring the sidewalks up to the standard width.
Member Craig asked Mr. Gibbs to respond to what Sheri Wamhoff had stated.
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Enc- acke responded that it worked at the "A" level of service, but the problem was
exaggerated during the school times.
Member Colton asked which new developments would-irfnpact the intersection.
Eric Bracke responded that all of the new developments being processed had sufficient
amounts of access, so they would not impact the intersection.
Member Gavaldon move" approve the project as recommended.
Member Torgersortseconded the motion.
The motion was approved 6-0.
Project: Larimer County Detention Complex, Sheriffs
Administration Building — Special Site Plan Advisory
Review. #37-99
Project Description: Request for a location, character and extent review
for a 34,500 square foot two-story administration
building for the Larimer County Sheriff's Department.
The site is 3.68 acres in size and is located at 2401
Midpoint Drive, south of the existing jail and west of
Midpoint Drive. The parcel is zoned I — Industrial.
Recommendation: Approval with conditions
Hearing Testimony, Written Comments and Other Evidence:
Ron Fuchs, Current Planning, presented the staff report for the advisory review. He
described the unique review and noted the location of the project. The project needed
to be in compliance with the City Plan as noted in the state statutes. He described page
five of the staff report that listed the conditions. He described the new changes he
passed out to update the staff report. Planner Fuchs stated that the recommendations
are for the health and safety of the public and the conditions are placed to bring the
project into compliance with the Land Use Code.
Kevin Gibbs, Project Manager for the county, described the temporary detention pond
area. Mr. Gibbs addressed the shifted access point on Midpoint Drive due to
underground utilities.
Member Craig asked if the Project Manager was involved with the landscape plans for
the project.
Council Liaison: Scott Mason
Chairperson: Glen Colton
Vice Chair: Jerry Gavaldon
Staff Liaison: Bob Blanchard
Chairperson Colton called the meeting to order at 6:35 p.m.
Phone: (H) 225-2760
Phone: (H) 484-2034
Roll Call: Bernth, Carpenter, Torgerson, Craig, Gavaldon, and Colton. Member
Meyer was absent.
Staff Present: Blanchard, Eckman, Wray, Fuchs, Schlueter, Wamhoff, and
McCallum.
Agenda Review: Director of Current Planning Bob Blanchard reviewed the Consent
and Discussion Agendas:
Consent Agenda:
1. Minutes of the October 21 and November 18, 1999 Planning
and Zoning Board Hearings.
2. #32-98C Poudre Valley Health Systems, Harmony Campus — Major
Amendment
3. #37-99 Larimer County Detention Complex, Sheriff's Administration
Building — Special Site Plan Advisory Review
4. Recommendation to City Council Regarding Changes to the
Process and Procedures for Amending City Plan and
Comprehensive Plan Elements Thereof
Discussion Agenda:
5. The Greens at Collindale — Referred Minor Amendment
(continued)
6. Harborwalk Estates — Referred Minor Amendment (continued)
A citizen pulled item 2 for discussion, Member Craig pulled item 3 for discussion, and
staff continued items 5 and 6.
Member Gavaldon moved for approval of Consent items 1 and 4.
Member Torgerson seconded the motion. The motion was approved 6-0.