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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCARIBOU APARTMENTS - PDP - 18-02A - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESXI 1 STATE OF COLORADO ). 2 ) 3 COUNTY OF LARIMER ) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 48 TRANSCRIBER'S CERTIFICATE I, Karen Voepel, a Registered Professional Reporter and Notary Public for the State of Colorado, do hereby certify that the foregoing proceedings,. is an accurate and complete transcription of said videotaped Planning and Zoning meeting held in Fort Collins, Colorado on January 16, 2003. I further certify that I am not related to, employed by, nor of counsel to any of the parties or attorneys herein nor otherwise interested in the outcome of the case. 2003. Attested to by me this 20th day of February, Karen V epel, RPR, CSR February 20, 2003 23 My commission expires May 22, 2005. 24 25 47 1 MR. GAVALDON: Yes. 2 THE CLERK: Carpenter? 3 MS. CARPENTER: Yes. 4 THE CLERK: Torgerson? 5 MR. TORGERSON: Yes. 6 Okay, the project passes. 7 (Matter concluded.) N 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 46 1 affordable housing and not on the north and not .on the west, 2 I'm worried about that. I believe in dispersion of this and 3 I think that it needs to be done. 4 I haven't even touched on architecture. I'm 5 going to leave that to my -- my colleagues here are more 6 skilled in it and all that. But I just hope this thing is 7 not going to be in -your -face unit like this where you see it 8 in some of the other affordable housing projects. 9 And I hope that it turns out to be a quality, 10 and -- I.hope it does do what it is intended to do. But if 11 it don't, we'll have some comments from citizens down the 12 road. But I'm going to support it, but I just want you to 13 know where my concerns are. 14 (A comment was given from.the audience, not 15 audible.) 16 MR. GAVALDON: I can't -- but I appreciate the 17 comments by the citizen. I appreciate the efforts that 18 you're trying to do, but I'm going to support it. 19 MR. TORGERSON: Anyone else have any thoughts? 20 Let's take a vote. 21 THE CLERK: Bernth? 22 MR. BERNTH: Yes. 23 THE CLERK: Meyer? 24 MS. MEYER: Yes. 25 THE CLERK: Gavaldon? 45. 1 Project Development Plan, Number 18=02A, would be approved 2 based upon the following facts and conclusions outlined on 3 page 8 of the staff report. 4 MS. CARPENTER: I'll second. 5 MR. TORGERSON: Okay, we.have a motion on the 6 table. Does anyone have any comments? 7 MR. GAVALDON: If I'm going to look at the 8 process, I'm going to support the motion. But my gut says I 9 should not because I have some concerns about the traffic, 10 the layout. The resident brought out some good points about 11 the orientation of the buildings. The encroachment on the 12 buffer of the natural area there. Though it's okay, but I 13 think mitigation could have been -- I think our natural 14 resources could ask for some mitigation to make it more 15 feasible. 16 I'd eliminate some garages in a heartbeat, very 17 quick, and turn them into flat lots and try to make a better 18 buffer. And I feel that the prime streets and the layout 19 and all of that, it will work. 20 But that's my gut that says that, this thing has 21 some problems with it. And the bigger one I have is it's 22 too close to another affordable unit. I'm in favor of 23 affordable housing, mind you. I think it's an important 24 value to our city, but they're too close to each other. 25 And if we're going to turn the east side into 44 1 clarification. We appreciate it. 2 MR. TORGERSON: Bob, this is within 3 three-quarters of a mile of a neighborhood center? 4 MR. BARKEEN: Yes, it is. The area up there 5 between Horsetooth and Timberline. There's a number of uses 6 up there that qualifies for a neighborhood center and this 7 is within three quarters of a mile of it. 8 MR. TORGERSON: McDonald's? 9 MR. BARKEEN: There's a -- there is a convenient 10 store. There. TheConoco gas station up there. There's 11 some additional offices up there. There's a dental clinic. 12 A few medical offices up there. 13 There's additional -- when you go further south, 14 too, there's additional across from Harmony and Timberline 15 down there. 16 MR. TORGERSON: Actually,' yeah, that is another 17 area. 18 MR. BARKEEN: Ironically, there's one across the 19 street that's been approved but our code won't let us jump 20 the street so . . . 21 MR. TORGERSON: Okay, right. Any other 22 questions? Anyone feel like making motions? 23 MR. BERNTH: I'll make a motion. It's time to go 24 home. 25 I would recommend that the Caribou Apartment 43 1 rather put a boat anchor on a ship in the water but not a 2 garage. And that's my worry on it, guys. 3 Bob, any thoughts on that? 4 MR.. BARKEEN: Well, they do meet the code. 5 MR. GAVALDON: I know they do. 6 MR. BARKEEN: I think you're going under the 7 assumption that these garages are going to be a hundred 8 percent vacant, and I don't really think that's going to be 9 the case. 10 I.think that they certainly will be utilized. 11 Whether they're a hundred percent utilized, we'll obviously 12 have to -- you know, we'll just have to see on that. 13 MR. GAVALDON: And I do agree. They do meet the 14 code. I just wanted to put in my two cents and hopefully 15 we can do better next time. 16 MR. BARKEEN: Yeah. One nice thing about the 17 fact that this is a residential project is that it should 18 not compete with, you know, we're assuming that businesses 19 that are established across the street, your highest parking 20 demands for residential is at night. Whereas, your highest 21 parking demand for businesses is during the daytime. 22 So, you know, we think, you know, we really don't 23 see this becoming a parking issue, because there's lots of 24 parking opportunities out here so . . . 25 MR. GAVALDON: Okay, thanks for the 42 1 In a neighborhood residential, the people have 2 their driveways and their garages but they also can park on 3 both sides of the roadway. And, you know, for different 4 needs, uses and activities, they both compete for their 5 needs also in that scenario. It's a -- it's a constant 6 competition if it's so desired. 7 Does it happen every day on most streets? No. 8 But it certainly will happen on some days, yes. 9 MR. GAVALDON: The reason why I bring this up 10 because poor Mikal, we worked him over. We worked over 11 development on -- over by CSU with the same thing. Parking 12 on the streets, making them poor folks put all the parking 13 in. But these guys have garages. They're going to charge 14 extra. They beat the code, getting it under the code 15 enforcement. And just, you know, it happens, you know. We 16 got it out of process. 17 But it concerns me that these garages are going 18 to sit empty because they don't want to pay extra and there 19 will be some vacancies. And I wish they would come forward 20 and say we want to make them available to everybody because 21 affordable housing, who's going to pay for their garages 22 when there's affordable housing? I don't think too many 23 people will. 24 And those are just going to sit there and become 25 -- what do you call them? Boat anchors. And I think I'd 41 1 apartment building and put it in the clubhouse, we're 2 considering that a new housing type? 3 MR. BARKEEN: Yeah, and it is certainly a 4 different function where it's overseeing the, you know, 5 basically the management of the complex itself. 6 MR. TORGERSON: Right. Okay. Any other 7 questions? 8 MR. GAVALDON: Ward, I was talking earlier about 9 the parking and on -street parking in the development to the 10 north of it. There's nothing on that property to the north of 11 this apartment complex. And so folks -- or maybe this is 12 a Bob one, too.-- so we've got 15 some cars going to be 13 parking on Caribou street, Caribou Road, I mean. And if you 14 get the development to the north going in and they want to 15 park on the street, how are we going to mitigate this so the 16 apartments won't take all the spaces and they have none? 17 You know, it has to be available for everybody. Any 18 thoughts? 19 MR. STAFFORD: We believe that most of that is 20 certainly dealt with, with the policies of the park and 21 regulations in our city as far as the developments provide 22 their own needs. 23 The roadway certainly allows for additional 24 capacity, especially for holidays or whatnot. But, yes, 25 they will compete under any scenario. 40 1 Collins. And so . . . 2 MR. TORGERSON: I certainly agree with that. It 3 just seems like the intent -- I agree with the intent of 4 this part of the code and that is I think to avoid 5 building -- I call it condo-opolis. You just drive by and 6 it's an enormous condo-opolis. It's so homogenous, I guess, 7 is what I'm trying to get at. 8 Is the caretaker's unit, is it unique 9 architecturally or is it -- maybe this is a question for the 10 architect. 11 MR. BARKEEN: It does follow the City Plan. 12 MR. TORGERSON: Is it recognizable? 13 MR. BARKEEN: We'll have to go back. We can 14 probably go back. I know -- I'm pretty sure it's in the 15 presentation. Go back to the January 16th Planning and 16 Zoning meeting. I know it's in your packet. 17 It's on 11 of 16 in your attachment on the 18 drawings. 19 MR. TORGERSON: Isn't that the club building? 20 MR. BARKEEN: Yeah, it's located within the 21 clubhouse. 22 MR. TORGERSON: Okay. But it's just another 23 apartment really? 24 MR. BARKEEN: It would be a for -rent rental unit. 25 MR. TORGERSON: But because they took it from an M 1 One of those is multifamily, which is the vast 2 majority of the units within this project. The other one is 3 called a mixed -use dwelling unit, which basically means 4 it's -- mixed -use dwelling unit means it's kind of a work at 5 home dwelling units. You work out of your home. 6 The caretaker's unit meets that definition. So 7 they do meet the definition of providing those two units. 8 There's not a criteria within the E zone district 9 that a certain percentage of the -- of that mix occur, just 10 says you have to have at least two. And they are providing 11 that. 12 MR. TORGERSON: But the purpose statement 13 essentially says that -- that it's intended to promote a 14 variety of housing types within development plans. And I'm 15 having a hard time swallowing just the guy that manages the 16 property is one type and then the property manager as the 17 other. 18 Bob and I think had we taken a strong stance 19 on that, we really need to ask the question, well, do we 20 really want to see another residential unit type in here? 21 They could probably put a single-family dwelling in here, 22 but we didn't think that was really serving any purpose on 23 that, particularly when there is -- the project is providing 24 such a well needed type of residential. It's -- this type 25 of affordable housing is hard to come by even in Fort 38 1 it from going to D. 2 I would have been happy with C and I wouldn't 3 have a problem. But I have a problem -- I have a concern at 4 D right now. And then I start seeing some Es, then you're 5 not too far from an F on that one. 6 MR. STAFFORD: I can't say I disagree with that. 7 I'd like to see them flow at a C, I mean,'because that would 8 even make my job easier to maintain that ability. But that 9 is the hottest growing section in our town and has been for 10 quite a few years. It is -- it's a work in progress, that's 11 for sure. 12 MR. GAVALDON: Thank you very much, Ward. That's 13 all I got for you. 14 MR. TORGERSON: Bob, just a moment ago you talked 15 about the range of housing types from residential to 16 multifamily, and I'm curious about what the range of housing 17 types is in this project. 18 I know it was mentioned in the staff report that 19 the caretaker's unit is one type and the apartments were the 20 other. 21 MR. BARKEEN: Yeah, the Land Use Code within the E 22 zone district requires projects over -- greater than 10 23 acres in size to F2. Separate land use types or two 24 separate types of residentials. Those residential uses are 25 defined elsewhere within the Land Use Code. 37 1 us being able to, one, hopefully have good city planning to 2 make good use of the land and -- and provide those elements 3 to try and help mitigate some of the roadway impacts. But 4 on top of that, it becomes our job to try and help it flow 5 better. 6 And the additional signals isn't necessarily an 7 answer to flow. I mean, we constantly fight putting in 8 signals: Putting in a signal is a downhill trend in the 9 operation. It helps certain functions, but overall it slows 10 down the flow. So we look for other methods to do it. 11 If we can ever get a traffic circle accepted 12 around here, that will -- people will find that will be a 13 good thing. 14 As far as working it in on Timberline, yes, we 15 watch the overall picture, hoping to create enough 16 connectivity in neighborhoods, enough accesses. Not too 17 many; because accesses, as you see on College, has turned 18 that six -lane roadway into a four -lane, because the right 19 turn lanes are basically driveways into the businesses. 20 It hurts the flow, so we try to not allow those 21 to happen but it's a constant competing exercise to do so. 22 MR. GAVALDON: Okay, well, just hear my point. 23 I'm concerned about it. At this stage we just finished 24 Timberline and we're at D already? We're getting where we 25 use our money wisely and did we use it appropriately to keep 36 1 on the maps here I'm looking at. 2 Ward, I got something for you. Service level 3 deferred peak operation on traffic report. I'm starting to 4 see a lot of D level surface at Timberline and Harmony. 5 Then if you're looking at 2005 projection by 6 Matt's reports -- and, thank you, Matt; I appreciate that -- 7 I start seeing more Ds showing up at 2005 and some Es 8 starting to show up at 2020. But it's starting to concern 9 me a little bit that we haven't really done -- Janet brings 10 up a good point -- the big picture. 11 Okay, you know, I'm not interested in traffic 12 signals. I'm more interested in even flow and in and outs. 13 But whether you put traffic signals at Caribou, it's a moot 14 point because your Harmony and your Timberline -- your 15 Horsetooth and -- your Horsetooth intersection and Harmony 16 intersection is starting to get tucky. I know you called 17 that acceptable, but when do we say we're getting tucky -- 18 too tight with this at service? 19 MR. STAFFORD: Well, they're allowed to go to 20 level service E without levels of mitigation. Level of 21 service F is what's considered failure. On a 22 arterial/arterial intersection, unfortunately commonly they 23 run in that D and E range. I mean, that is the highest 24 volume locations on almost any street. 25 As far as trying to govern it, it comes down to 35 1 This is within a larger employment zone, which 2 does have a lot of the support of uses, you know, your -- 3 you know, your tech parks and your other similar -- other, 4 you know, similar types of uses on that where you do -- 5 where they are able to support, you know, multifamily such 6 as we're seeing here tonight. 7 You know, whether or not we're seeing an 8 overintensification of multifamily in this area, you know, I 9 don't think we've seen anything to indicate that. 10 MR. GAVALDON: Well, if we're looking at 11 affordable housing projects for specifically, aren't we 12 supposed to have them dispersed? Because you got two right 13 back on top of each other within a small distance and this 14 one's four-X'd size of the other one that they were talking 15 about, the one by Fort Collins High School across from 16 McDonald's on southeast corner Horsetooth and Timberline. 17 And if you look at just the square footage, you 18 know, just looking at the plot, that's almost four times the 19 size. 20 So that's my worry. It was just a comment. 21 MR. BARKEEN: I think the one we're referring to 22 is the Fox Meadows at the corner of Horsetooth and 23 Timberline. I think it's actually very similar in size of 24 this one. 25 MR. GAVALDON: It looks a lot smaller on this -- 34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that we're getting pretty intense with apartment buildings along Timberline. We've got the, oh, what's those? Pinecone ones over by Fort Collins High School. Then we've got the ones on the southeast corner of Horsetooth and Timberline. We have this new project. We have condominiums across the street. And then we start going south, and we get over here to these more upscale units on South Timberline by the new theater. So that makes one, two, three, four, five multihousing units within from, what, about three -- two miles? Three miles? Are we starting to get intense -- are we starting to overintensify this area here? Is that what City Plan wants to do is intensify or are we supposed to disperse? MR. BARKEEN: Well, I think the intent of city plan was to, first of all, create that true mix of housing types, multifamily, single-family and then, of course, the range, you know, the range in between -- between those ends of the use spectrums there. I think when the City Plan was put together that the location for the zoning, which was appropriate for single -- I mean, for multifamily residential was looked at in relation to activity centers, major transportation' corridors such as Timberline and the Harmony corridor on that. Areas where multifamily truly does make sense to have. 33 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. BARKEEN: No. MR. GAVALDON: She said they were assured minutes. What happened here? MR. BARKEEN: Yeah, yeah. And that is the responsibility that we need to take on ourselves. As a policy, we do try to consolidate -- they're not minutes, they're just -- they are notes of the meeting of what items were discussed, and we do try and make those available soon after the neighborhood meeting as soon as possible.. And it was just unfortunate that it wasn't done for this particular project. MR. GAVALDON: Okay. I get concerned when minutes are not -- when notes are not available. I see us as credibility and if the citizens are assured of them, they got to have them. You know, because if they get questions, they can follow up with the applicant. They can get things resolved without having to wait at the last hour and late at night to bring them to us. And here we don't have them and they don't have them. I just want to make sure that -- that the neighbors are given that, because I think this has happened a couple of times this year that we just don't get -- they don't get communicated back on with these notes. So that's my concern. I was looking at this project here, and I noticed 32 1 MR. BARKEEN: What's that? 2 MR. TORGERSON: I think your mic's off. 3 MR. BARKEEN: The reason I think you see the site 4 plan, the arrangement that you see it, the way it's presented 5 tonight with the buildings accessing off the adjacent 6 streets, is that's one of the requirements of the City Plan 7 within the Land Use Code. 8 We know that we've sort of heard that discussion 9 before as far as putting the garages around the perimeter of 10 that, and we really were not very excited at all about that 11 as far as having the garages blocking the streets, either 12 via Timberline or Caribou. 13 So we were actually quite excited when the site 14 plan was presented the way that it is now because it does 15 have that direct connection to the adjacent streets, very 16 much like what the Land Use Code and City Plan really asks 17 for. 18 MR. TORGERSON: Right. That's what I kind of 19 thought. Is there anyone -- Jerry. 20 MR. GAVALDON: .Bob, Janet expressed a concern 21 about no meeting minutes being shared with her community. I 22 checked my packet, I don't have any either. Do we have 23 minutes available? 24 MR. BARKEEN: Only what's in your packet. 25 MR. GAVALDON: Did they get minutes? 31 1 out there on Timberline. It has not been something we've -- 2 we've discussed and considered and there's numerous pros and 3 cons to the uses of them. So at this point in time, there's 4 nothing planned. 5 MR. TORGERSON: Aren't the speed cameras 6 roving? Don't they travel around in a -- I notice I get my 7 picture taken every once in a while different places. 8 MR. STAFFORD: As far as the police force, they 9 do have one in the vehicle that is dictated by themselves. 10 Where it is, we don't even have notification of. 11 MR. TORGERSON: Okay. 12 MR. STAFFORD: And it certainly has, I used to 13 live on the southeast side of town, and I certainly saw it 14 out on Timberline. 15 If you would like to see'it more, certainly 16 contact the police department and make a request. They're 17 quite obliging to that. 18 MR. TORGERSON: Okay. I think those were the 19 bulk of the traffic questions. 20 Bob, she also asked if garages could have been 21 placed along Timberline between the buildings and 22 Timberline. Is that allowed by the code? 23 MR. BARKEEN: It would be permissible, though, 24 but I think the reason that you see -- 25 MR. TORGERSON: I think your mic's off. 30 . 1 given that trucks dominate. Certainly the cars are the high 2 volume of traffic, and they are more on what we key on as 3 well as trying to avoid enough flexibility in it to deal 4 with the trucks' needs. 5 Overall picture of Timberline, it is a major 6 arterial, slated to be six lanes in time. The major 7 arterials are allowed to run from 35,000 cars up. Not 8 really a cap on it per se. 9 And this street currently 24-hour operations is 10 running in the neighborhood of about 28,000 cars a day. 11 That's within the capacity adequately of a of a four -lane 12 highway or four -lane roadway. In time, yes, it will grow to 13 a six -lane. 14 What have I missed? 15 MR. TORGERSON: There was a question about speed 16 cameras. 17 MR. STAFFORD: Speed cameras are not dictated by 18 us in the Traffic Department They're handled by the police 19 force, and I think Council actually, if I'm not mistaken. 20 Paul, you may be able to address that better than I can. 21 We don't have any involvement per se as far as 22 the operations and stuff of it. We may oversee some of the 23 installation characteristics, but that's about as far as we 24 go.. 25 Doubtful that we would be looking to put cameras 29 1 solution to avoid putting in another signal light. 2 It's been I think over a year since that one's 3 been evaluated. We certainly can evaluate it again. It 4 didn't meet warrants a year ago for the left turn. That 5 certainly doesn't say it's not changing as the southeast 6 corridor is growing considerably. So we can certainly take 7 a look at that. 8 Other issues as far as say truck route or truck 9 lanes and the growth of Drake and all up and down, the 10 bigger picture is overseen by the Traffic Department. 11 We do monitor streets on a routine basis for 12 their growth. We continually have studies done on the 13 various roadways around the city as well as, you know, 14 reviewing these plans that come in that keep you abreast of 15 the changes. 16 Drake certainly probably will grow. It will go 17 to four lanes more than likely when the development on the 18 north side comes about. Its truck use at the moment is one 19 due to a rock plant down there off of Ziegler due partly 20 because of the construction activity that's going on there. 21 And as long as that plant's there, it probably will continue 22 to use that route. It is certainly a roadway rated for the 23 trucks. 24 Signal timings and operations will be tuned -- 25 fine-tuned to accept them as well as possible. It's not a W 1 like the homeowners haven't really been involved to the 2 level that we have. We haven't had meeting minutes. And I 3 think that there needs to be more involvement before a final 4 decision's made and that's what I'd like to ask for. So I 5 thank you for your time. 6 MR. TORGERSON: Thank you. Is there anyone else 7 out in the audience that wanted to speak to the project or 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 consultants? Okay, seeing none, we'll close public input. MS. WINTERS: Yeah, I was going to ask one more question. I'm sorry. MR. TORGERSON: Okay. MS..WINTERS: The one meeting I attended before this, all of you brought up excellent points after you closed it to the public. And when do we get to interact with those kinds of statements, based on your expertise of what you've done for however many years? MR. TORGERSON: A lot of it is just in the interest of keeping the meeting moving along. We're going to run late as it is, but appreciate your thoughts. Bringing it back to the Board, Ward, it looks like there's probably a lot of questions for you here. MR. STAFFORD: Good evening. It is pretty late. Out there on Timberline Road, a left turn will go in when it becomes warranted and when we can't find a better 27 1 In other pictures, it looks like it's on the other side. 2 And, you know, not knowing where these buildings 3 sit in conjunction with our buildings makes it difficult to 4 say this might work out; it might not. We just -- there's 5 nothing to tell. Forty meetings, .two minutes, you know, 6 it's a little bit difficult. 7 So from the traffic I already mentioned what I'd 8 like to see addressed. 9 And from the buildings, I would really like to 10 see that the lower ones are set in the front and the taller 11 ones in the back so that the people who live along Sunstone 12 can maintain their.view. They're the homeowners of -- along 13 that stretch. 14 The other -- the other piece that we talked 15 about, and I've talked about the lower buildings, is if the 16 garages are put parallel with Timberline, then we're not 17 looking in each other's homes. We're not looking balcony to 18 balcony. It really helps to have some privacy, if you will, 19 to some degree. 20 I mean, I know that there's going to be a 21 building there. You know, I'm not saying don't build 22 anything there. But I'm just saying, you know, can we 23 minimize the impact on the people that have been living 24 there? 25 So I know they've done a lot of work. I feel 26 1 the impact of that will impact the entire neighborhood. 2 So, again, who's responsible for the big picture 3 of all of that? The traffic and flow and all of that? 4 So the items I'd like to see addressed are the 5 signals and how they're going to be synchronized through the 6 entire Timberline corridor, King Soopers and that whole 7 complex. 8 Drake, I'm sure Drake's going to be widened. 9 Semis use Drake to bypass the weigh station. The police set 10 up weigh stations quite often because they know they do 11 that. So are there going to be truck routes sorted out 12 so that we're not dealing with that so much? As, you know, 13 the roads get wider to accommodate the businesses, the 14 trucks are going to use them. 15, And it just seems like, again, in the big 16 picture, how do we address all of these? It's not just this 17 one project. 18 Left-hand turn signal into our subdivision I 19 think is going to need to be taken care of. 20 Also, clarification. On all of the different 21 maps it's kind of difficult to determine where the wetlands 22 are truly and where -- where that correlates with the 23 project across the street with the Sunstone. 24 In some maps it looks like the wetlands are 25 beyond -- and I think the;name of the street is Sunstone. 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 turn lane. And when I asked about that, I was told that that was someone else's department. That the traffic folks would worry about that in a bigger picture. This project's going to bring in more traffic. I can't turn into my subdivision without fear of getting clobbered. So I think those are things that need to be considered as each of these projects, you know, tap in. The speed and the volume of the traffic along the whole corridor is an issue. And as these projects are built, I think Drake and College are one of the safest intersections because of the camera. People actually go the speed limit through there. So are those things being considered? You know, we just spent a ton of money on the Harmony corridor and there's no speed cameras there and that just seems kind of crazy to me so . . . So those sorts of things in the bigger picture of things. This complex, I mean, it's lovely. They've done a great job for it in and of itself, but how it impacts everyone else, again, there's no pictures for how it impacts across the street. The other complex is just down the street, so now we've got two low income projects going on or affordable housing projects going on in a very small distance. So 24 1 neighborhood meeting was that we were supposed to get 2 meeting minutes and open communication as changes go on. 3 Tonight they mentioned they've had 40 meetings. 4 I've had no communication. I've had no meeting minutes. 5 I've had no open ongoing communication about the process of 6 what's going to be happening with this, so really no chance 7 to put input in. 8 Two meetings for something that's going to 9 impact -- or two chances really for me for something that's 10 going to impact a bunch of people that are homeowners versus 11 renters and transient tenants. 12 So that was another concern I brought up. And, 13 again, I.apologize. I'm a little bit nervous. I haven't 14 done this before so . . . 15 Another issue that I had and asked in the 16 neighborhood meeting was around traffic.. The Timberline 17 corridor has a lot of projects tapping into it. Harmony was 18 just widened. Caribou Apartments. There's another project 19 going in on just south of that, and I don't know what that 20 is at this point. King Soopers wants to put one on Drake. 21 And I asked about who's watching the bigger picture of this. 22 With the widening of Harmony, half of our access 23 into our road was cut off by turning left. Now it's only 24 two streets. That is half. So there's a signal there, 25 traffic zooming down Timberline, but there's no left-hand 23 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 directly..across the street from it, and they didn't take any pictures across the street. I've got a map printed from your website, and I don't know if that might be helpful to take a look at.. MR. TORGERSON: If you can give it to the clerk. MS. WINTERS: There's somewhere around 20 units across the street that are all going to face this. So one of my questions was from balcony to balcony, what's the distance? Because living straight across the street, I'm now looking in people's living rooms and balconies. So one of the questions that I asked at their presentation was if there was a reason that the layout of the buildings was -- was it required to be laid out a certain way based on the strike of the land or anything else? What I asked was -- and they said no to that. They said that they had tried to budget the iterations and you guys talked about that again tonight. My request was can you put the lower buildings, the back of the garages and that sort of thing, parallel with Timberline so that the people who live in Sunstone are looking up and the taller buildings are in the back? Because behind it is nothing but storage units, so that's not going to impact anyone. One of the other .pieces that came out of the 22 1 Do you want to say any final words, Linda or are 2 we set for questions?. Thank you very much. 3 MR. TORGERSON: Okay, do we want to go directly 4 to public input or does anyone have any thoughts? 5 Okay. Is there anyone in the audience that's 6 waited this long? We'll let you speak your mind. You've 7 waited long enough. 8 Again, please state your name and address for the 9 record and sign in. 10 MS. WINTERS: You bet. My name is Janet Winters. 11 I live at 4345 Gemstone Lane across the street from the 12 project. 13 And, pardon me, this is the first time I've been 14 up here so.I may miss a couple of things. 15 There's been -- this is the third meeting. The 16 first meeting was to change the -- or make the modification 17 to a hundred percent density. And the piece that was a 18 little bit confusing to me was after going through this. 19 whole formalized process, one of the statements by someone 20 sitting on the Council was that this was just a formality. 21 So it felt like it wasn't even in question about the process 22 going forward. 23 The second meeting, they did a wonderful 24 presentation, same maps and everything. 25 My concern -- one of my concerns is living {' 21 1 area. 2 So we've tried to break up -- this facade creates 3 single-family residential style elements, arched windows, 4 gabled roofs,_ individual entry points around the building. 5 So I'm not going to speak a whole lot more about 6 that. I'd be glad to answer any questions you have about 7 that. I think your packets have more elevations than this, 8 but these were provided in the slide show to talk about the 9 different color pallets we have on the buildings. 10 The single-family garages will demonstrate the 11 same mixture and materials that we have in the buildings. 12 They're only one-story in height. And as Bob talked about 13 earlier, the ones along the wetlands were kind of set up 14 there as a buffer from the internal to the wetland space to 15 the south. 16 That's about it for the architectural part. 17 Really a lot of it was driven by the land planning and site 18 planning. We think it's going to be a really nice project. 19 I like the way the site plan has internalized the parking 20 and kind of given it that real neighborhood community feel 21 that Tom and Glen were talking about earlier. 22 We're here to answer any questions. We've got 23 civil engineering and traffic and architecture and land 24 planning and landscape architecture, whatever you'd like to 25 talk about. 20 1 This is a typical building. It's actually one 2 of our larger buildings. We have three different building 3 types. 4 This one shown here is shown to -- we have three 5 of these slides, and they demonstrate the different color. 6 pallets that we're using. We have three different color 7 pallets for the three different building types. 8 All of the buildings, whether they're.the longer 9 buildings or the shorter buildings, have two-story elements 10 on all ends. And these two-story elements all have 11 individual front door entries. 12 This front door would access the lower residence 13 here. This front door leading into a stair would access the 14 upper residence. And that's a typical design that we've 15 done in this project to have kind of ground floor front door 16 porches for a large percentage of the residential homes that 17 we have here. 18 We've introduced a lot of single-family 19 residential elements that you can see. The gabled roofs, 20 the siding, the mix of brick, typical roof shingle for 21 residential products, and we tried to reduce the scale at. 22 the ground level to a pedestrian feel and something that's 23 commensurate with the residential communities that we have, 24 neighborhoods we have around, not necessarily adjacent but 25 across Timberline and also to the sduth across the wetlands 19 1 Again, I think those are the high points, and 2 it's getting late. I'm going to have Doug talk a little bit 3 about the architecture and then I think we'll be ready to 4 answer some questions. 5 I don't know how to operate all of this high-tech 6 equipment to get it to the slide, I guess. 7 MR. WAGNER: Actually, could we go back to the 8 site plan? Sorry. 9 Good evening. My name is Doug Wagner. I'm with 10 Martin Design, too. And I'm with the architectural 11 department side of Martin Design, and we worked on the 12 buildings and they've changed quite a bit along with the 13 site plan. 14 That's one of the things that I wanted to talk 15 about the site plan. The shape and the orientation of the 16 buildings is a direct result of working with the site plan, 17 the internal street, the internal parking and all those 18 things that Tom talked about. 19 The site in large part created the buildings, the 20 shapes, the massings, the locations and all those issues 21 that are the beginning points of the design of the 22 buildings. 23 Now we can kind of go back to those elevations. 24 But just wanted to point out that the site really 25 pushed the building shapes and the locations that we had. W- 1 framing the issues here. Let me just clarify one thing. 2 We are slightly under 19 percent in that 3 encroachment zone. But half of that 19 percent, it's about 4 6200 square feet, just a little under half of that 5 encroachment is because of the spruce trees that we've 6 introduced here. So 51 percent of that may be the backing, 7 and if you want to move back so that slide and maybe we 8 don't need to, but if you'll remember that. The 9 encroachment area is here. That's maybe over 51 percent of 10 it. The rest of it is a result of these Spruce trees, which 11 are not native species and, therefore, considered to be an 12 encroachment in that buffer zone. 13 And let me just mention one other thing. You 14 asked about the parking? And I apologize. We didn't have 15 that at my fingertips because we weren't not using the 16 parking along the street to satisfy the parking 17 requirements, so I went back out there and got my scale out 18 and ran a number, which we can get a little bit more detail. 19 But that's about 38 or 40 parking spaces, it looks like to 20 us, along these internal streets. 21 And, by the way, normally in a project that Mark 22 Hendricks would develop, you'd have a garage count roughly 23 around 50 percent.' This is much lower than that. Closer to 24 20 or -- if my math is right, 25 percent, something like 25 that. 17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 center as well down here located on the visual access along Timberline Road and Shoreburg and at the intersection here, again in a very prominent point, with some of its amenities backing up to the buffer area to the south. In terms of developing the concept after -- after the site plan, we really looked at this -- the buffer area really as an opportunity, and a design opportunity to create some visual interest within this development when it gets to the landscape concept. Urban along Caribou and Timberline as it moves south and to the west. Towards this natural area you've got the more native vegetation if you'll remember from the slide. We've pulled that up into the site, and you can see probably not as clearly as we would have liked to on this slide, I apologize for that, but you're seeing some native vegetation here. Some urban dryland mixes in concert with some of the plant materials that we've introduced here. And, by the way, we've worked with Steve Long in developing this plant list both for slope stabilization as well as the promotion of wildlife habitat along here. in the south and then used this as a design opportunity to try and carry that out through 'the site even up to the corner of Timberline Road and Caribou. The -- just a little bit more detail about this 25 buffer zone, and I think Bob did a good job of sort of 16 1 I know .it's late, and without belaboring the 2 points that have already been made, let me just reiterate a 3 few things about this site plan. 4 I think it truly -- it becomes a neighborhood in 5 itself because of some of the streets, the pedestrian 6 connections, the thing the City of Fort Collins is trying to 7 accomplish. 8 The site plan for -- in a great extent plans 9 itself. The buildings face the street along Caribou, 10 Timberline Road. Verbina and Shoreburg, which are the new 11 streets that are internal to this, really become an 12 important public thoroughfare and do more than just connect 13 Caribou with Timberline. They also further organize the 14 buildings internally. 15 The parking moves to the interior, so you're 16 really accomplishing I think what's at the heart of what the 17 City is trying to do, which is make this less of an 18 automobile -oriented development and more of a 19 pedestrian -oriented development. 20 Further reinforcing that you'll see -- my arm's 21 not long enough, so how does this work? Yeah. You'll 22 further see this large area of open space, which is placed 23 along the street and becomes a community focal point again 24 in public view. It's not hidden. It's out for the public. 25 It's for everyone's use in the community. And the community 15 1 work that out. 2 The existing house on the site with quite a few 3 mature trees was something that needed study and a lot of 4 evaluation to determine which trees could be transplanted 5 successfully, which ones needed to be mitigated. 6 The wetland to the south was always a primary 7 concern of staff as well as ours. That was one of the 8 reasons why this was an attractive site to the developer in . 9 the first place, so we were certainly always trying to 10 protect it. 11 And in the end we think we've done a great job 12 there, .not only by meeting the setback requirements in the 13 Land Use Code but also in terms of dramatic landscape 14 enhancements and also paying attention to storm water' 15 quality. 16 So with that overview, I'm going to turn it over 17 to Tom Kline of Martin Design who will walk you through the 18 site plan and landscape plan. Thank you. 19 MR. KLINE: As Linda mentioned, my name is Tom 20 Kline. I'm a landscape architect with Martin Design, and 21 I've had the pleasure of working on this project. 22 Although we did do 20 or 30 iterations, I think 23 they have all been in the interest in creating a great 24 neighborhood and a great community. And I think that's what 25 this plan represents up here. 14 1 issues that we face and then I'm going to turn it over to 2 Martin Design to walk you through the project more 3 specifically. 4 First of all, access was.quite a challenge in 5 this site because there really only.-- when it was all said 6 and done, there were only two possible access points. One 7 on Timberline that had to be a certain distance from the 8 intersection of Horsetooth and also had to be offset a 9 certain distance from access point further to the south. 10 Similarly on Caribou, access point had to be a 11 certain distance from other -- other connecting points and 12 there was very little flexibility on where we could put 13 access points. 14 Then the next -- the next very, •I guess, 15 constraint, the Land Use Code is pretty restrictive about 16 multifamily development in terms of build -to lines and 17 connectivity standards. You really have to get those 18 multifamily buildings on a public street. 19 In this case it's a private street meeting public 20 street standards, but the important point is that we were 21 forced to create a street through the project that we 22 couldn't put perpendicular parking on. So it utilized some 23 land in a different way than we might have done if we didn't 24 have that Land Use Code restriction. But we were able to do 25 it we think quite successfully. In the end we were able to 13 1 units. They're the same units. So it gives people an 2 opportunity to get some help without -- without the stigma 3 that sometimes have been attached to that. 4 The project we're representing tonight, Caribou 5 Apartments, is modeled in the same way. The architecture is 6 different. There's certainly differences in the project, 7 but in terms of affordability, the idea of mixing market 8 rate and income restricted units is the same. 9 The project we're presenting tonight has 193 10 total units, 87 of them will be income restricted. The 11 project's already received private activity bond allocations 12 from the Affordable Housing Board. 13 If the board has more questions about the 14 financial structure or income qualifications, Mark will be 15 happy to answer for those -- those for you later in the 16 presentation. 17 But, meanwhile, the site plan that we have before 18 you tonight meets the criteria in the E zone and complies 19 with all the applicable general criteria in Article 3 of the 20 Land Use Code. 21 Getting to this point was -- was not an easy 22 task. At last count.we had over 20 alternative site plans 23 that we presented trying to staff, trying to satisfy all of 24 their concerns. 25 I'm just going to point out a couple of the major 12 1 diligently, constantly, for that nine -month period trying to 2 -resolve all of the site planning and design issues. 3 This hasn't been an easy site, but we're happy to 4 report that tonight we're presenting a project that not only 5 meets the city's objectives in terms of site planning and 6 design but also achieves a primary city goal of providing 7 affordable housing. 8 Mark Hendricks of MJT Properties, also here 9 tonight, is not new to Fort Collins or to the affordable. 10 housing industry. He developed Fox Meadows Apartments, 11 which is just on the other side of Timberline a little 12 farther north than this project. It sits right south of 13 Fort Collins High School and the McDonald's on the corner 14 along Horsetooth and Timberline. 15 That project I believe was completed in 2000. 16 It's fully leased now. There are 138 units there. 17 Sixty-three of those are affordable, meaning they're leased 18 to families who have incomes that are 60 percent or less 19 than the median income in Fort Collins. 20 The nice thing about that project, I think you've 21 probably all seen it, it's a very attractive project, and it 22 allows low income families -or individuals to live in a 23 housing project and not have the stigma of living in an 24 affordable project, because the income -- the low income 25 units are virtually indistinguishable from the market rate 11 1 Associates. I'm here tonight representing MJT Properties, 2 Mark Hendricks, the owner of that company. And I'd like to 3 introduce our design team. 4 We've got V.F. Ripley in.charge of planning. 5 Architecture and landscape architecture are by Martin 6 Design. And Tom Kline and Doug Wagner here tonight with us 7 to talk about those parts of the project. 8 Civil engineering, we have North Star Design. 9 Mike Overschmidt is here. He'll be able to answer questions 10 regarding grading or storm water. 11 Traffic engineering, we have Matt Delich on 12 board. And we have Mike Phelan representing Cedar Creek 13 Associates who did some wildlife biology consulting for us 14 in regard to the wetland area. 15 So that's our team. We're all here tonight. 16 Have been here for quite a while, actually, waiting to 17 present this project to you. 18 As Bob mentioned, we were here actually back in 19 May, last spring with this project because we had to seek a 20 modification because we represented more than,25 percent of 21 our development plan as a secondary use. 22 And that evening you approved our modification 23 and basically gave us the green light to pursue the design 24 of this project. So that was about nine months ago. 25 And so during that time we've been working really 10 1 But there is -- you go out there, there are 2 vehicles out there. There's some -- a couple of semis and 3 everything that just kind of seem to be continuously parked 4 out there. But generally the streets are pretty free of, 5 you know, of on -street vehicles. There are some -- there 6 are still some out there, though. 7 MR. GAVALDON: So if the developer goes to the 8 other property and they want to develop, and whatever they 9 can bring, and they have to use that parking, has the 10 applicant taken into account any mitigation? 11 MR. BARKEEN: You'll have to repeat that, Jerry, 12 I had a hard time understanding. 13 MR. GAVALDON: Okay, if.anybody wants to develop 14 north of them and wanted to come in and that created 15 problems and they had to compete for those spaces, is the 16 applicant prepared to discuss that with us tonight? 17 MR. BARKEEN: I think that's certainly a 18 question we can answer them ---or ask them. 19 MR. GAVALDON: Okay, I'll save that for their 20 presentation. Thank you, sir. 21 MR. BARKEEN: Okay. Yes. 22 MR. TORGERSON: Okay, Linda. 23 MS. RIPLEY: Good evening, Chairman Torgerson and 24 members of the Board. 25 I'm here tonight, Linda Ripley, with V.F. Ripley 0 1 or where would they go? 2 MR. BARKEEN: Well there is -- We're fortunate 3 with this individual project where again that internal 4 street network that I pointed out to you, that will allow 5 on -street parking lot for that. 6. MR. GAVALDON: How many spaces? 7 MR. BARKEEN: I'm not quite sure. I would 8 imagine it probably -- I'm going to guess between 30 and 40 9 spaces. 10 There's also parking available on Caribou Street. 11 Parking can -- there's on -street parking that's permitted on 12 Caribou Drive already, so there's an additional -- 13 MR. GAVALDON: How many? 14 MR. BARKEEN: There's along the frontage of this 15 project, I would guess maybe 15 spaces. Probably a little 16 bit more on that. There's quite substantial frontage along 17 there. 18 MR. GAVALDON: Do we have other developments 19 using the street that probably would be competing for those 20 spaces on Caribou? 21 MR. BARKEEN: The land to the north of this site 22 is currently undeveloped. There is a business kind of more 23 north and west of the area that's just immediately across 24 the street from that. So there really isn't any development 25 right now that is utilizing the street for any parking. A 1. Also there is some of those evergreen trees that 2 were included in the -- around the single-family. Those are 3 being transplanted.within this buffer area to help mitigate 4 the loss of the distance on that. And we're.going to see a 5 number of those evergreen trees actually be transplanted 6 within the area. 7 This is a grading plan of the area. And some of 8 the detention will be actually provided -- water quality 9 ponds will be provided within that buffer area. Those will 10 be graded up to the adjacent edge of the wetland area 11 itself. 12 Another shot of that. 13 That's generally going to conclude my 14 presentation of the project itself. I'm going to turn it 15 over to the applicant, and I believe Linda Ripley is going 16 to start the presentation to the applicants. 17 Unless there's any questions of me now, I'll turn 18 it over to Linda Ripley. 19 MR. TORGERSON: Jerry? 20 MR. GAVALDON: Bob, before you go, on these 21 320 -- Bob, before you go, on these parking spaces of 320, 22 265 will be surfaced and 55 in garages. 23 MR. BARKEEN: Yeah. 24 MR. GAVALDON: If the folks don't pay extra for 25 the parking spaces or garages, where would you put the 55 at 7 1 wetland inward to where development can take place. 2 Development, of course, being buildings, parking areas, 3 sidewalks of that nature. 4 You'll notice -- on here you'll see several 5 features that are shaded in a darker area. The buffer area 6 is the stippling marks. And again this is in Exhibit 13 of 7 16, and it's provided in your packet if you're having 8 trouble seeing this from this distance. 9 Basically the encroachment here, our code allows 10 up to a 20 percent encroachment within that one hundred 11 foot buffer. Any greater encroachment to that and the 12 applicant would have to seek a modification from the. 13 Planning and Zoning Board as well. But they are. -- they 14 are encroaching on that, but generally under 20 percent. 15 The encroachment generally consists of a couple 16 of garages and,a small area of the parking area. These 17 garages have their -- this is the rear of those garages and 18 they have their backs to there. And the Natural Resource 19 Department thought that that was -- really would limit the 20 impacts on the garages since there's no activity back there. 21 It actually acts more of a buffer from the 22 activity, which would occur more in this parking area and of 23 course around the buildings itself. So they were pretty -- 24 so they were fine with the encroachment as the applicants 25 proposed. I 1 You'll notice there are a number of existing 2 trees on the property, several nice trees. The majority 3 of -- almost all of the evergreen trees will be saved. 4 They'll be relocated elsewhere on the site. But the 5 deciduous trees that you see on here would not be saved and 6 several of those are considered significant, so they will be 7 mitigating for the loss of those trees. 8 This is again looking off Caribou Drive. g The project is against an existing mini storage 10 warehouse units, which is just immediately to the west of 11 the site. 12 Another view off.of Timberline Drive. 13 Timberline Drive as well. 14 This is the storm water detention area 15 immediately to the south. You can see there's significant 16 wetland vegetation that's established itself within that 17 area. And this project is going to respect that -- that 18 vegetation and that wetland feature'itself. 19 Another view from the south. This is from the 20 south from Harmony Drive looking north.. And, again, this is 21 where the project would -- would be developed, this existing 22 single-family house out there now. 23 This map shows the buffer that's being provided 24 with the project. Pursuant to the Land Use Code, there's a 25 hundred foot buffer from the perimeter of the existing 5 1 Probably one other -- the project -- part of the 2 parking is being provided in -- in detached accessory garage 3 units. Now as you all know, we did pass a ordinance about 4 the middle part of last June that required that these.garage 5 units, if--- if they are included in the determination for 6 meeting the required numbers of off-street parking spaces, 7 that they be included within the base rental price of the 8 units themself. 9 The applicant is not proposing that, but they 10 are -- they don't need to. This was submitted prior to that li ordinance becoming into effect, so they are not subject to 12 that ordinance. So that's one of the -- one of the 13 requirements that they're not meeting but they're not 14 subject to that, so I just wanted to point that out to you. 15 Again, the wetland area is down to the south 16 here. And I'll forward to the slide to that. 17 These are some of the elevations of the units 18 themselves. There's I believe three different building 19 types arranging in heights from three stories in the center 20 and tapering down to two stories. 21 This is the site as you see it. This is 22 Timberline Drive here, Caribou Drive. This intersection is 23 signalized already. You'll see this is the existing house. 24 Again, that's not part of the -- the actual development 25 plan. 4 1 itself. 2 This is a -- The Caribou Apartments is a 3 qualified affordable housing department -- or qualified 4 affordable housing project by the Advance Planning 5 Department. I think the -- it qualifies as having 40 6 percent of its units -- 45 percent of its units to be 7 considered as affordable housing. 8 This is the general site layout. It's -- The 9 site is generally broken down. The units are broken down 10 into six individual units. One of those units will front 11 along Caribou Drive. This is Caribou Drive up here. One of 12 the units would actually front onto Caribou Drive. 13 Two.additional units would front onto Timberline 14 Drive. And then there would be three units internal to the 15 site but yet they would front on this internal street, which 16 is being provided within the project. .17 This is a -- it's a private street but it will be 18 developed.and built to our local street standards on that. 19 And it will accommodate on -street parking just like the 20 normal local street will. 21 The parking is generally laid out within the 22 internal to the site. Again, the buildings generally shield 23 the parking from both Timberline Drive and from the internal 24 street. There is a clubhouse, recreational amenities 25 included within the project. 3 1 employment zone requirement. ' 2 That modification was granted and then allowed 3 the applicant to submit the project that is before you 4 tonight. 5 Taking a look at the aerial photo of the site, 6 there is an existing single-family residence located 7 generally central on the site. The site is about a little 8 over ten acres; 10.8 acres to be exact. 9 The existing house is not part of the project 10 development plan. It would -- it would be removed upon 11 development of the site. Generally.around the site, it's 12 fairly well undeveloped. The house is rather centrally 13 located on the site. 14 One of the more prominent features of the area, 15 it's actually a storm water detention pond, and it's just 16 immediately south of the site, but it -- it's actually 17 considered a natural area because it has over the years 18 developedas a wetland area and quite a nice wetland area. 19 actually.on that. 20 I'll kind of discuss a little bit more how this 21 project relates to the wetland areas. Wetlands are all 22 off -site of this site but yet since it is adjacent to it, we 23 do need to take a look at that and make sure that we do 24 maintain enough buffer from those wetland areas to limit the 25 disturbance that this project may impose on the buffer area r. 1 MR. TORGERSON: Welcome back to the January 16th 2 Planning and Zoning meeting. We have one item left on the 3 agenda and that's the Caribou Apartments Project Development 4 Plan, 18-O2A. 5 Bob, take it away. 6 MR. BARKEEN: Thank you, Mikal. .Again, the next 7 item on your agenda tonight is the Caribou Apartments 8 Project Development Plan. 9 This is a project development plan consisting of 10 193 multifamily residential units. The project is located 11 in the southwest corner -- southwest corner of South 12 Timberline Road and Caribou Road, generally in the southeast 13 quadrant of Fort Collins. 14 The property is currently zoned "E" employment 15 district. The use of multifamily residential in the E, 16 employment, district is considered d secondary use type 17 within the number of uses that are permitted within that 18 zone district. 19 You may recall that, and I believe it was April 20 of last -- last year already, that we presented to the 21 Planning and Zoning Board a modification against the 22 secondary use standards within that E employment zone 23 district. That modification request was to allow an entire 24 project development plan to consist of secondary uses versus 25 the 25 percent that is restricted to under the normal 1 2 3 4 5 MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CITY OF FORT COLLINS, COLORADO 6 Held January 16, 2002 7 At City Council Chambers 300 West Laporte Street 8 Fort Collins, Colorado 9 In the matter of Caribou -Apartments Project Development Plan 10 18-02A 11 12 Commission members present: Mikal Torgerson, Chair 13 Jerry Gavaldon Dan Bernth 14 Judy Meyer Jennifer Carpenter 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 Meadors Court Reporting, LLC Phone: (970) 482-1506 140 W. Oak Street, Suite 266 Toll -free ,(800) 482-1506 Fort Collins, Colorado 80524 Fax: (970) 482-1230 e-mail: meadors@reporterworks.com Planning and Zoning Board Minutes January 16, 2003 Page 19 annexation because if the residents are that unhappy, then maybe it is not a good idea. Just remember every time you go into a city park, just remember who's parks those are. The motion was approved 4-1 with Member Meyer voting in the negative. Project: Caribou Apartments, Project Development Plan, #18-02A Project Description: Request for a 193 unit multi -family complex located along the west side of Timberline Road and south of Caribou Drive. The project is located on 10.8 acres of land and will yield a gross density of 17.8 units/acre. The property is zoned E, Employment. Recommendation: Approval Hearing Testimony, Written Comments and Other Evidence: This item was appealed to City Council and a verbatim transcript is attached or can be obtained at the Current Planning Department. Other Business: There was no other business. The meeting was adjourned at 12:30 a.m. Approved by the Board on April 10, 2003. Council Liaison: Karen Weitkunat Chairperson: Mikal Torgerson Vice Chair: Jerry Gavaldon Staff Liaison: Cameron Gloss Phone: (W) 416-7435 Phone: (H) 484-2034 Chairperson Gavaldon called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. Roll Call: Carpenter, Bernth, Meyer, Torgerson, Gavaldon. Members Colton and Craig were absent. Staff Present: Gloss, Eckman, Olt, Jones, McWilliams, Barkeen, Moore, Sanford, Schlueter, Dodge, Stringer and Deines. Election of Officers: Member Meyer nominated Member Torgerson for Chairperson. The motion was approved 5-0. Member Carpenter nominated Member Gavaldon for Vice Chair. The motion was approved 5-0. Director of Current Planning Cameron Gloss reviewed the Consent and Discussion Agendas: 1. Minutes of the September 5, October 17 (Continued), and November 4, (Continued), 2002 Planning and Zoning Board Minutes. 2. Resolution PZ03-01 — Easement Vacation. 3. Resolution PZ03-02 — Easement Vacation. 4. #55-02 Streamside Annexation and Zoning. 5. #54-02 Peterson Annexation and Zoning. 6. #47-02 Strauss Lakes Development Annexation and Zoning. Discussion Agenda: 7. #35-00 Peterson Place (611 Peterson Street) — Project Development Plan. 8. #38-02 South Taft Hill Seventh Annexation and Zoning. 9. #18-02 Caribou Apartments — Project Development Plan. John Trowbridge, citizen pulled Strauss Lakes Development Annexation and Zoning for discussion.